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[RinpocheSchnozberry]

I've been watching the videos and I'm wondering if the the reason some Reapers are huge and some Reapers are small is that the big Reapers come from galaxy spanning civilizations (Humans, Asari, Salarians, etc) and the smaller Reapers come from races with smaller populations.  Krogan, the bird people, Drell, etc. 

This also explains why so many of them land on Earth at the same time.  They land to sort through the creatures they're harvesting.  Sending Krogan to one Reaper, Humans to another, Salarians to another, so that the genetic pools don't get mixed up.

Eventually, the Reaper or Reapers chosen to incubate the newly harvested races will bud off a new Reaper that then joins the whole.  The smaller Reapers, the ones we see crawling around on the ground, end up sleeping in the larger Reapers until the next cycle.  Then it all happens again.

Why did the Prothean Reaper fail?  They either exterminated themselves in battles against the Reapers, or they were an amagamation of conquered or assimilated races and the Reapers didn't like the taste.  :lol:

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 08 juin 2011 - 01:24 .

[Mann42]

I've kind of thought this was the case since we started seeing more about their 'process' in Mass Effect 2, as well as some of the story points and codex entries about them. 

Hell, even the invasion of Earth scene we see, the way they are invading makes it look like they are literally 'picking' through the earth, looking for something. Like a monkey picking fleas off another's back. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're just sorting the lifeforms for 'processing'. 

Modifié par nexworks, 07 juin 2011 - 05:23 .

[aridor1570]

My question is: if they are harvesting for over 37 million years, why 80% of them look the same?

[candidate88766]

aridor1570 wrote...

My question is: if they are harvesting for over 37 million years, why 80% of them look the same?

Only the outer shells are similar - the actual Reaper (i.e. the core, the thing made up of the harvested species) is inside the 2km spaceship.

[armass]

The outer shell looks the same. Not the core.

[Syreniac]

The idea that all Reapers look the same only on the surface is a reasonable one, until you think about what they look like when sending holograms around the place; they still look like cuttlefish. If they were all like the Termireaper underneath, why do they only ever show the world their cuttlefish shells?

[Ahriman]

Syreniac wrote...

The idea that all Reapers look the same only on the surface is a reasonable one, until you think about what they look like when sending holograms around the place; they still look like cuttlefish. If they were all like the Termireaper underneath, why do they only ever show the world their cuttlefish shells?

They are shy? A lot of reasons are possible. Anyway it was stated by Casey in interview "for hardcore fans", so it's a fact.

[aridor1570]

Thanks for clearing that up, I've clearly missed some things when I was reading about the reapers.

[BubbleSauce]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...


Krogan, the bird people, Drell, etc. 

Bird people? Am I missing something?

[Rockpopple]

Turians are the bird people.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

nexworks wrote...

Hell, even the invasion of Earth scene we see, the way they are invading makes it look like they are literally 'picking' through the earth, looking for something. Like a monkey picking fleas off another's back. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're just sorting the lifeforms for 'processing'. 

Exactly!  It's like... if they were just here to blow **** up, they wouldn't go past the asteroid belt.  They'd just camp out there and push asteroids at a planet until it was devestated and then move on.  They're here to gather genetics, I think.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Wizz wrote...

Syreniac wrote...

The idea that all Reapers look the same only on the surface is a reasonable one, until you think about what they look like when sending holograms around the place; they still look like cuttlefish. If they were all like the Termireaper underneath, why do they only ever show the world their cuttlefish shells?

They are shy? A lot of reasons are possible. Anyway it was stated by Casey in interview "for hardcore fans", so it's a fact.

Yah!  Plus, it's kind of utilitarian, don't you think?  A while bunch of arm/legs they can cross over their guts as extra shields.  It just seems efficient.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Rockpopple wrote...

Turians are the bird people.

Well there is them.  :)  I could have sworn there was an article in the Cerberus Daily News that talked about a new race of bird people that only lived on one planet too.  In my crazy idea, the bird people would be harvested by the Reapers into a ground (or air!) assault unit, since there simply isn't enough genetic material available to provide power/processor power/energon cubes for the big Reapers.

[Kakistos_]

I do not think that the Reapers gatther all races, only the ones that they wish to assimilate into a new Reaper. This is crucial information that I don't think Vigil would have left out. As for the Reapers appearence, the ones that we have seen that all look like Sovereign could just be place holders because of the time it would take to design a fleet on unique Reapers.

[Someone With Mass]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

Turians are the bird people.

Well there is them.  :)  I could have sworn there was an article in the Cerberus Daily News that talked about a new race of bird people that only lived on one planet too.  In my crazy idea, the bird people would be harvested by the Reapers into a ground (or air!) assault unit, since there simply isn't enough genetic material available to provide power/processor power/energon cubes for the big Reapers.

The raloi?

They've just been discovered, but I don't think they're advanced enough to draw attention from the Reapers.

[Ananka]

So the reason they're attacking the galaxy every once in a while is pretty much just a matter of reaper reproduction?

But yeah, I do think you're right.

Modifié par Annaka, 07 juin 2011 - 07:25 .

[Kakistos_]

Someone With Mass wrote...

The raloi?

They've just been discovered, but I don't think they're advanced enough to draw attention from the Reapers.

They are intelligent and that will draw attention from the Reapers. The Reapers destroy all intelligent life and leave only rudimentary life becaues any intelligent species that has any clue about what happened to the galaxy they would prepare for or search for the Reapers and attempt to destroy them. If the Raloi are overlooked they would do everything they could to deny the Reapers in the future. They would go down new paths of technology, manupulate the Citadel and Relay systems to their benefit and out of Reaper Control and raise new intellegent species in a similar matter to avoid the fate of the previous galactic civilization pretty much destroying every advantage the Reapers have. This the Reapers cannot allow and thus the Raloi's fate is sealed if the Reapers are not beaten back.

[Ice Cold J]

"In the end, what does it matter? Your survival lies not in understanding them, but in stopping them."

- Vigil

[this isnt my name]

Annaka wrote...

So the reason they're attacking the galaxy every once in a while is pretty much just a matter of reaper reproduction?

But yeah, I do think you're right.

Except they dont need to invade, the species who created them could just farm itself to make more reapers.

[oyukichan]

Kakistos_ wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The raloi?

They've just been discovered, but I don't think they're advanced enough to draw attention from the Reapers.

They are intelligent and that will draw attention from the Reapers. The Reapers destroy all intelligent life and leave only rudimentary life becaues any intelligent species that has any clue about what happened to the galaxy they would prepare for or search for the Reapers and attempt to destroy them. If the Raloi are overlooked they would do everything they could to deny the Reapers in the future. They would go down new paths of technology, manupulate the Citadel and Relay systems to their benefit and out of Reaper Control and raise new intellegent species in a similar matter to avoid the fate of the previous galactic civilization pretty much destroying every advantage the Reapers have. This the Reapers cannot allow and thus the Raloi's fate is sealed if the Reapers are not beaten back.

This is not true. They have to be spacefaring. At least, according to everything currently known. Humans were "intelligent" to an extent as cavemen and in ME1 the Prothean artifact on Eletania provides evidence that the Protheans were aware of humans. The Reapers would have known of the human existence when they harvested the Protheans.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Someone With Mass wrote...

The raloi?

They've just been discovered, but I don't think they're advanced enough to draw attention from the Reapers.

DING DING DING!  WINNAR!   That's who I was thinking of.  Embrassing, I mixed them up with the Rachni and couldn't recall which was right in time I had to post.  :lol:

As Aurin and Kakistos mentioned, they are intelligent and part of the galactic community, so I think that would qualify them for a good swift Reaperin'.

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 08 juin 2011 - 12:13 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Ice Cold J wrote...

"In the end, what does it matter? Your survival lies not in understanding them, but in stopping them."

- Vigil

Good catch!  However, the source of that quote is like the guy that was too afraid to cross a mountain pass with the rest of his tribe.  He might be like "Dont' go over the mountains!  People who go over them never come back!"  So the next tribe to wander along might be like, damn, it's cold and snowy, but we're surviving.  I guess we'll listen to this one last survivor! 
Meanwhile, every other tribe that has ever crossed the mountains ends up in a city called Orgyopolis and are treated as great man and women for having come out of the Dread Mountains alive.

The point being the Vigil was made by survivors of a race that was being reaped...  Vigil had a definite bias toward what was going on.  Maybe Vigil was totally and completely wrong.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

this isnt my name wrote...

Annaka wrote...

So the reason they're attacking the galaxy every once in a while is pretty much just a matter of reaper reproduction?

But yeah, I do think you're right.

Except they dont need to invade, the species who created them could just farm itself to make more reapers.

Not if it's "one reaper, one race."  Maybe it's a religious mandate (so throw logic out the window), or maybe they thought the only way to make a "responsible" Reaper is to make is such that "you fail to reason correctly and plan thoroughly... your whole race dies."

[sympathy4saren]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

I've been watching the videos and I'm wondering if the the reason some Reapers are huge and some Reapers are small is that the big Reapers come from galaxy spanning civilizations (Humans, Asari, Salarians, etc) and the smaller Reapers come from races with smaller populations.  Krogan, the bird people, Drell, etc. 

This also explains why so many of them land on Earth at the same time.  They land to sort through the creatures they're harvesting.  Sending Krogan to one Reaper, Humans to another, Salarians to another, so that the genetic pools don't get mixed up.

Eventually, the Reaper or Reapers chosen to incubate the newly harvested races will bud off a new Reaper that then joins the whole.  The smaller Reapers, the ones we see crawling around on the ground, end up sleeping in the larger Reapers until the next cycle.  Then it all happens again.

Why did the Prothean Reaper fail?  They either exterminated themselves in battles against the Reapers, or they were an amagamation of conquered or assimilated races and the Reapers didn't like the taste.  :lol:

My question is how an army of organics, even a galactic army, is going to pose any serious threat to the Reapers. Let's not forget how much it took to bring Sovereign down, and only then because Sovereign was desperate to stop Shepard from stopping the opening of the Citadel Relay and assumed control of Saren's corpse, leaving its natural body.

The Reapers have successfully eradicated and harvested for an estimate of 740 consecutive extinction cycles. Sure, i know they usually isolate systems, but we should get hammered by them.

I'm sure BioWare knows this. I wouldn't be shocked to see the battle on earth take place 3/4 of the way through the game, us be completely crushed and left feeling hopeless, then a final desperate idea and attempt to do what is almost pretty much impossible.

Defeat the Reapers.