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Poor fan service at E3 (Edit: Foot in mouth! Thank you Bioware, for lifting my RPG concerns)


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#101
Ahglock

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Don;t mock the power of buzzwords. Give it a week and everyone on the forums will be telling you how ME3's combat is more Visceral,"

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Jaron Oberyn

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It's not just visceral. Its also "amped up" "over the top moments" "emotionally engaging" and thanks to the Buhh Unn Awesome guy, its "awesome"

-Polite

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sympathy4saren

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Todd Howard showed and explained Skyrim's inventory and skill trees. Took several minutes to do so as well, explaining and showing features. It was very creative and awesome.

They should have did the same for ME3. Show us this skill tree, and how you can level and what you get from it.

Fans want to know this. An rpg fan who never experienced Mass Effect or knows next to nothing about it is going to see that, see its a shooter and move on.

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sympathy4saren wrote...
Fans want to know this. An rpg fan who never experienced Mass Effect or knows next to nothing about it is going to see that, see its a shooter and move on.


How many RPG fans are there who don't know about ME?

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Agree with #3 :unsure:
I was looking forward to seeing RPG features the most. :crying:

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They need to impress at E3 as the year goes on we'll get videos that showcase all that OP. I liked the child scene btw weren't alot of people complaining there where no kids? Now we see a kid and msheps voice in that scene seem appropriate though due to being in a large room there was an echo so I'll have to wait till the game comes out before I give a 100% on I like how he delivered that line or not.

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I think they didn't want to show to much stuff. Apparently people got their panties in a bunch about ME2, something about "to many spoilers" and junk. Maybe they wanted to stay on the safe side, besides this game isn't coming out until March 2012 they don't have to show everything now...

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It's amazing how everything is a spoiler unless its that "sick new melee ability" or "check out improvements in combat."

Funny how those aren't spoilers.

Just paid Bethesda $60 today, gonna give them more too when they announce a super collectism edition

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personally i dont want to see conversational stuff i know i like the way bioware handles that and i trust them to do a good job. The big thing is the new combat so theyre gonna showcase that because its new and its good.

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I'm not disappointed. The combat looks great. But I was expecting to see the deeper RPG aspects they were talking about before.

And I feel very conflicted about seeing more dialog. On one hand I want to see more but I do not want spoilers. So I rather not get more dialog.

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sympathy4saren wrote...

It's amazing how everything is a spoiler unless its that "sick new melee ability" or "check out improvements in combat."

Funny how those aren't spoilers.

Just paid Bethesda $60 today, gonna give them more too when they announce a super collectism edition

I love the "They cant show anything, its spoilers" yet we already know from what they have shown, cerberus works with reapers and the VS is a spectre.

I think its just people in denial.

Bethesda can take my money, they earned it.
And I bet thats why ME3 was pushed back, they saw a real rpg and a threat to sales of their "rpg" tps.

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E3 also isn't for Mass Effect fans... we're already sold (the majority of us anyway) even if they didn't show anything at E3... they don't need to market to us (as much as we'd like it due to our insatiable curiosity).

E3 is about marketing your game to potential consumers who might not otherwise be aware of or buy their product without a strong advertising campaign.... E3 is geared to inform the general masses who may not be dedicated gamers who are in the know about Mass Effect.

Whether you like it or not, E3 is a marketing event... there's no point in showing people who already plan to buy the game stuff they want to see.... they need to show people who don't know about their game the stuff that will make them want to buy it in the first place. 

Bioware is in the business of making money, lest you forget... they want the most money they can get their hands on... you do this by marketing to people who are potential customers.... not existing / near guaranteed customers.

To summarize.... E3 is not for you and me... it's for the unwashed masses who aren't already Mass Effect fans.

Modifié par Hathur, 08 juin 2011 - 04:12 .


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Jarrett Lee

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There will be more of the things you are looking for (OP) between now and Comic Con, and at Comic Con where we will be having a pretty huge fan area.

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March 2012 is a long way away.

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Marketing must always commit many necessary evils, plus Bioware promised not to spoil the story too much like they did with ME 2.

If that's a dealbreaker...*shrug*

Sucks to be you.

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Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

March 2012 is a long way away.


Not really, you'd be surprised how fast 9 months goes by.

Feels like E3 2010 was just yesterday.

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

There will be more of the things you are looking for (OP) between now and Comic Con, and at Comic Con where we will be having a pretty huge fan area.


There were some items listed on the ME3 CE description that turned out to be duds, such as the Prothean Downloadable Character.

Will there be an official correction listing what comes in the CE?

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this isnt my name wrote...
And I bet thats why ME3 was pushed back, they saw a real rpg and a threat to sales of their "rpg" tps.


Obviously.

:?

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Legbiter wrote...

Marketing must always commit many necessary evils, plus Bioware promised not to spoil the story too much like they did with ME 2.


this is kinda true - the things that are shown/released for E3 (or any show) are not decided by one person for example, it's a big machine with many cogs. 

I can say this: if you loved ME2, you will love ME3 - probably a lot more. This is the main thing to keep in mind. It will lose nothing and will only gain better RPG elements, better action, awesome story and incredible moments. I've seen things taking place between characters you guys are gonna flip over. I guess all I can say is be patient, we are still 9-10 months from launch. 

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I missed Jarrett Lee over the past months, he's a cool guy. Thanks Jarrett!

Modifié par casedawgz, 08 juin 2011 - 04:24 .


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sympathy4saren wrote...

It's amazing how everything is a spoiler unless its that "sick new melee ability" or "check out improvements in combat."

Funny how those aren't spoilers.


Huh? They're...not spoilers.

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Jarrett Lee wrote...
I can say this: if you loved ME2, you will love ME3 - probably a lot more. This is the main thing to keep in mind. It will lose nothing and will only gain better RPG elements, better action, awesome story and incredible moments. I've seen things taking place between characters you guys are gonna flip over. I guess all I can say is be patient, we are still 9-10 months from launch. 


Works for me.... but what about the folks who didn't like ME2 much?

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On that note, I hope we will get the class videos we got for ME2 again. I loved these little vids where Christina Norman introduced each class. First time I saw the infiltrators tactical cloak: Whooohooo! And then charge, etc. You guys should do something like that again, maybe around Christmas.

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

Legbiter wrote...

Marketing must always commit many necessary evils, plus Bioware promised not to spoil the story too much like they did with ME 2.


this is kinda true - the things that are shown/released for E3 (or any show) are not decided by one person for example, it's a big machine with many cogs. 

I can say this: if you loved ME2, you will love ME3 - probably a lot more. This is the main thing to keep in mind. It will lose nothing and will only gain better RPG elements, better action, awesome story and incredible moments. I've seen things taking place between characters you guys are gonna flip over. I guess all I can say is be patient, we are still 9-10 months from launch. 


Dude, if you do plan to show us some of ME3's RPG elements over the next several months, could you please give us a taste of the squad armor system? :P

I demand to know if Ashley will be wearing her white-and-pink punk armor during the super-sexy Reaper battles.

BTW, GREAT job on the look and feel of the game. It looks like Mass Effect, feels like Mass Effect, but looks so much better than Mass Effect. B)

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

I can say this: if you loved ME2, you will love ME3 - probably a lot more. This is the main thing to keep in mind.


What if you loved ME1, but found ME2 to be "good, but disappointing" though? What of those who found ME2 to be too action-oriented and too "Modern Hollywood" and not enough "classic sci-fi?"

Modifié par Terror_K, 08 juin 2011 - 04:34 .