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[Dasher1010]

Estelindis wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

ME1 set the standard. TW2 raised it. I'd love to see ME3 return to it's edgy roots and actually show people naked when they f*ck.

I do think TW2's scene of Triss and Geralt in the elven ruin was beautiful.  A bit over the top with all the moaning and groaning (in my opinion), but head and shoulders above most other such scenes in pretty much any CRPG.  Don't know about the others, as my Geralt only slept with Triss (I'm such a sucker for monogamy, even when playing a notorious lover of women like Geralt).

Anyway, in terms of desirable features of this scene that I'd like to see in ME3 love scenes, I'd list the following: the scene is part of an ongoing relationship rather than a last hurrah before a possible apocalypse (a cliché that works at times - e.g. ME1 - but which I was glad Bioware got away from in the Dragon Age games); there's a steady rise in "temperature" between the two, slowly but surely (assuming one doesn't break things off via conversation) leading the scene to change into an intimate one; depending on the character, some cheekiness or playfulness, e.g. as when Geralt is still in the middle of undressing and Triss pulls him into the bath; and a sense of the deep passion between the two as they commit fully to each other in that moment (though, again, that would depend on the characters).

OperatingWookie wrote...

As long as it goes along with the context of the situation, I definately agree with you.
*wookie hug*

Absolutely!  Context is essential.  *hugs back*  I mean, not every scene should be alike.  It was a genius move to have two possible consummations for Jack (casual sex vs. deeper relationship), but that wouldn't work with every squadmate (e.g. Kaidan doesn't seem to be one for casual flings at all).  I mean, depending on the character, the scene could have lots of conversation first or all exchange could happen through glances and touching - there could be obstacles to overcome between the participants or no doubt in either of their hearts - the mood could be one of comforting or of celebration - it just goes on.  And, to be fair, in spite of the repetition of the eve of battle theme at the end of ME2, there was an amount of variation between the different characters' love scenes.  That's one aspect of ME2's romantic moments that I hope persists.

I agree with this. The Witcher 2 handled it well. Nudity is fine, but as long as Bioware isn't showing actual penetration, it's not going to far. There's a difference between M Rated and porn and CDProjeckt seems to get that a lot better.

[slimgrin]

Fidget6 wrote...

Valcutio wrote...

Sorry, but The Witcher 2 raised the bar. I'm not looking for pornography but I think video games should be on par with R rated movies when it comes to showing intercourse.

Get with the times, Bioware.

The Witcher scene I saw seemed like it was designed by a horny 13 year old boy. DO NOT WANT. 

I do want. The scenes looked real, unlike the armor cuddling we got in ME2. There's only so much dressing you can put on a primal, biological act. Show it like it is with a hint of discretion. Anything else is family friendly.

[Apathy1989]

I'm going to be strange and say I'd be happy to have DA2 style "sex" scenes. That is, some prelude, saucy start, fade to black, and then talking afterwards. We don't need to see everything, and alot of these alien creatures would lose their mystery and seriousness if some animator had to put sexual organs in strange places, and multiple breasts (or something silly like that).

The Witcher 2 got away with a very sexualised game because its what everyone expected from it. Many fans were surprised by how little sex there was in all honesty. Garralt is some sort of sex god or something, and in the first game was having sex with more women than the second.

Garralt f*cks, Sherperd makes love.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Fidget6 wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

I hope there's a menu that allow player to choose whether to view the adult content or not similiar to the controversial "No Russian" airport massacre in Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.

Or you could just you know..... not have sex with anyone if you don't want to see sex. :/

I wouldn't  be surprised if those who complaining are below 18...

[Lenimph]

Personally I think the ME3 love scenes need heavier risks so the prize can be more satisfying.

TW2 didn't do this... falling into a hole where a secret beautiful pond is... I mean really? I don't care how "sexy" Triss's Harry Potter XXX trick is, with a set up like that how is anyone supposed to take it seriously?

Modifié par Lenimph, 08 juin 2011 - 02:14 .

[Spatchmo]

How about if all the sex scenes were just "Two Girls, One Cup" starring Shepard and his / her LI?

[Chromie]

Lenimph wrote...

Personally I think the ME3 love scenes need heavier risks so the prize can be more satisfying.

TW2 didn't do this... falling into a hole where a secret beautiful pond is... I mean really? I don't care how "sexy" Triss's Harry Potter XXX trick is, with a set up like that how is anyone supposed to take it seriously?

Wow you clearly have no idea what your talking about...virgin.

[Lenimph]

Ringo12 wrote...


Wow you clearly have no idea what your talking about...virgin.

 Oh no a boy is questioning my sexual experience whatever shall I do. 

Modifié par Lenimph, 08 juin 2011 - 02:25 .

[Luvinn]

I support arms length dancing with your LI in ME3!



But seriously, i don't need the scenes to be more like ME1 or TW2, as long as it is something well done. All LI scenes should involve as much emotion as LotSB did, and after the reception that DLC got, i think they know that is what people wanted. I think ME3 will feature scenes as good as that for their LI's...especially Ash or Kaiden.

However, I personally do NOT want scenes like many of the Dragon Age romances. If you're going to show nudity, do it, and if not, make it emotionally involved like LotSB was. I hate the scenes where you are in bed with your LI and for some reason, you both were in a rush to get your undergarments back on. It just makes it look like you wanted to 'go there' but were afraid of the....ahem....reaper-cussions!

Modifié par Luvinn, 08 juin 2011 - 02:32 .

[LiquidGrape]

Lenimph wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...


Wow you clearly have no idea what your talking about...virgin.

 Oh no a boy is questioning my sexual experience whatever shall I do. 

You should mess with the preconception by falling into a secret beautiful pond and refuse to put out. That level of depth and personal integrity is so foreign to that franchise you would cause it to collapse in on itself.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 08 juin 2011 - 02:31 .

[stu117]

spice my game up with some alien sex scenes please. kbye

[slimgrin]

My whole point was Bioware needs to take risks again like they did in ME1. Do I really need to go to CDPR whenever I want an adult take on subject matter? Because as I see it now, only Bioware and CDPR dare to address this subject with any degree of maturity, with Bioware regressing into a more family friendly approach.

[axl99]

Eh. It's just sex scenes.

Ubisoft did a nice job with just the one scene in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. At least that one was tastefully done the whole way through. Complete with pillow talk.

[Chromie]

Lenimph wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...


Wow you clearly have no idea what your talking about...virgin.

 Oh no a boy is questioning my sexual experience whatever shall I do. 

<3

[LiquidGrape]

axl99 wrote...

Eh. It's just sex scenes.

Ubisoft did a nice job with just the one scene in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. At least that one was tastefully done the whole way through. Complete with pillow talk.

Have to say, I agree completely. That scene was surprisingly well-done. It even lingered on the human element for a while (aforementioned pillow talk), instead of just going for ragdolls grinding against eachother and then fading out before the post-coital refractory period can take place.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 08 juin 2011 - 02:47 .

[slimgrin]

LiquidGrape wrote...

axl99 wrote...

Eh. It's just sex scenes.

Ubisoft did a nice job with just the one scene in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. At least that one was tastefully done the whole way through. Complete with pillow talk.

Have to say, I agree completely. That scene was surprisingly well-done. It even lingered on the human element for a while (aforementioned pillow talk), instead of just going for ragdolls grinding against eachother.

Awww...are we favering post-coital cuddling to the grand act? 

Well, we all have our preferances.

Modifié par slimgrin, 08 juin 2011 - 02:48 .

[KiraTsukasa]

Is sex in a video game that important?

[Estelindis]

Lenimph wrote...

falling into a hole where a secret beautiful pond is... I mean really? I don't care how "sexy" Triss's Harry Potter XXX trick is, with a set up like that how is anyone supposed to take it seriously?

Did you play the game?  If not, you may not be aware that the set up actually takes place over a much longer period.  Geralt and Triss can have a pre-existing relationship from TW1 (I imported a save where Geralt had only slept with Triss in that game as well) and even at the start of the game (depending on one's RPing choices) the two can be seen to want to get away from political entanglements and just be together.  Triss goes with Geralt to the elven ruins to find a rare plant (the rose of remembrance) that could help him recover from his amnesia and she is shown to care enough for him that she'd risk losing him (as he's implied to have had a serious relationship with another woman before he lost his memories) if that's what it takes to help him.  Geralt can tell her he loves her and give her one of the roses, showing that his present life with her matters as much as his lost memories.  There's a confrontation with some thugs trying to loot the area that devolves into violence when one of them insults Triss (you can see Geralt deciding to kick their asses after they use a certain taboo word to refer to her) and it's in the aftermath of the fight that they fall into the part of the ruin with the large sunken bath.  There's a huge amount of relationship set up for this scene; it isn't just something that happens out of the blue with a few moments of contrived introduction.  And I'd like any romance scenes in ME3 to be similarly (or even more competently) integrated into a mature relationship between the protagonist and the LI, not just something that happens with no lead-up and then has no impact on interaction between the two afterwards (something which ME1 actually didn't show much of; at least ME2 allowed LIs to cuddle with Shep after the suicide mission).

Luvinn wrote...

i don't need the scenes to be more like ME1 or TW2, as long as it is something well done. All LI scenes should
involve as much emotion as LotSB did, and after the reception that DLC got, i think they know that is what people wanted. I think ME3 will feature scenes as good as that for their LI's...especially Ash or Kaiden.

I support this.  The romantic pacing of LotSB was perfect and I liked the way the final reminiscing scene with Liara
worked out.  It managed to strongly imply a physical consummation of Liara and Shepard's relationship via the black "embrace eternity" eyes, but it didn't force that interpretation on the player.  Anything could have happened, not necessarily just sex, but the important thing was that no matter what did happen a strong bond of love was reaffirmed between Shepard and Liara.  Hopefully Ashley and Kaidan's relationships with Shepard will be treated with similar or better maturity.

Modifié par Estelindis, 08 juin 2011 - 03:01 .

[slimgrin]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Is sex in a video game that important?

Hillary...is that you?

[Fidget6]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Is sex in a video game that important?

Yes.

[Estelindis]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Is sex in a video game that important?

You know you're posting on a video game forum, don't you?  In what other context would we discuss sex while remaining on-topic?

[LiquidGrape]

slimgrin wrote...

Awww...are we favering post-coital cuddling to the grand act? 

Well, we all have our preferances.

Well, considering I have yet to see a sex scene in any video game done properly (with the possible exceptions being the Brotherhood scene and Isabela's scene in DA2), yes; yes I prefer cuddles.
At least cuddles doesn't look quite so horribly awkward you must look away for fear of laughing and/or groaning at the screen.

I'm no prude, but truly mature depictions of sexuality in this medium are few and far between. And what examples there are seldom delve into actual sex.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 08 juin 2011 - 03:02 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

slimgrin wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Valcutio wrote...

Sorry, but The Witcher 2 raised the bar. I'm not looking for pornography but I think video games should be on par with R rated movies when it comes to showing intercourse.

Get with the times, Bioware.

The Witcher scene I saw seemed like it was designed by a horny 13 year old boy. DO NOT WANT. 

I do want. The scenes looked real, unlike the armor cuddling we got in ME2. There's only so much dressing you can put on a primal, biological act. Show it like it is with a hint of discretion. Anything else is family friendly.

I agree. That is what, well, sex is like. It's a bit over the top...well, not really if you think about it, there is nothing extreme about it there, it's just still new to the medium, then it's considered over the top because of it, I think.

I mean, if we can have over the top violence, a little bit more real sex should be ok in a supposed to be mature game, or shouldn't it?

It's a tough subject. I think this can be treated in a very different way according to different cultures. That is reflected through the games where CDPR is in East Europe and BW in North America, but well, it's just my opinion and the different game design perspectives in both studios.

[marshalleck]

LiquidGrape wrote...

At least cuddles doesn't look quite so horribly awkward you must look away for fear of laughing and/or groaning at the screen.

Yeah, there's nothing awkward about this, on any level(s).



Hawke's fingers having like nine joints each, the expression on his face that says "oh Maker what have I done this time, I'm never going to drink again," Merril's emaciated corpse-like body and hideously broken neck. 

How romantic!

Modifié par marshalleck, 08 juin 2011 - 03:04 .

[Zjarcal]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Is sex in a video game that important?

When the story of said game involves romances then yes, it should be an important aspect. Not the most important one, but an important one nonetheless.