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[Huntress]

3 females elves from DAO.
Mithra

Shianni

Panowen

[Mecher3k]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

yea not seeing it. Different nasal structures (Na'vi have cat-like noses and their foreheads extend down and become their nose, whereas elves have normal style noses that just extend into their forehead).

The eyes are similar to a human's eyes. The forehead isn't all that different from a human's either. Don't believe me? Well, I've seen plenty of people with foreheads like that.

The Na'vi ears jut out at a higher height and do so in an upwards fashion. Elven ears jut out where normal ears do and do so in a sideways fashion.


I wonder if people realize the Na'vi were eventually designed to have human characteristics

that's one Na'vi, the only real differense is the ears are up higher. That's it.

Pathetic you are going to such lengths to defend this pile.

So have you bought the latest Ipad 2 yet? Or did you already have the 2 versions of it already?

[TEWR]

I'm pathetic? Wow.... ok. You'll have to forgive me if I don't give a flying f*ck what one person thinks about me.

Also, what the hell does the Ipad have to do with anything?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 juin 2011 - 06:24 .

[Cutlasskiwi]

Monica83 wrote...

Luke Barrett wrote...

I actually really like how Merrill looks in DA2, the generic ones however were a bit too 'knife-ear'y for my aesthetic taste.

ok luke sorry for double post... But now they hem ugly.. Even merryl have the most horrible body i ever seen..They should be fixed and i can suggest a way.. Did you remember Aerie in baldours gate 2? Well this is a valid shape from my point of wiew... If you must make them seems more aliens.. But like in dragon age 2 not.. The elves in dragon age 2 merryl included are just ugly.. Merryl per se have a nice eyes but too much bigger.. Infact it seems a mantid.. The flat nose ruin most of theyr faces.. And merryl body shapes is.. disturbing.. when i romanced her and i seen her with that corset on bed...

I actually think Aerie and the elves in DA2 looks a great deal alike. (Since the in-game avatars didn't have detailed bodies like modern games do I assume you speak about her portrait. Correct me if I'm wrong.)  

[Akka le Vil]

I'm wondering...

I CONSTANTLY see everywhere the "should of", "I of to" and the like.
Is this some kind of obscure rule in english where "have" can be replaced by "of" ?

[berelinde]

OK, the DA2 elves do look like pink Na'vi. I don't care. I like how they actually look different form humans now, and they are attractive enough. Holding low-res bystanders and the incidental fugly NPC up as an example of the hideousness of the new design is presenting a flawed argument. DA2 low-res bystander humans were at least as ugly as the bystander elves and don't even get me started about Tahrone. For what it's worth, DA:O had some pretty unattractive elves too, or has everyone forgotten Cammen?

So, while I do not claim to be thrilled with every design decision in DA2, I can honestly say that I prefer the DA2 elves. The hurlocks, on the other hand, really need to stop looking like Skeletor.

[SirOccam]

I was a bit worried about the elf redesign when I heard about it, but I was relieved when I saw the final product. They didn't make them with giant ears that stuck out horizontally, or turn them anime or anything else. I think they look great, especially Merrill.

[Jademoon121]

Merrill, Merethari, Illen, Fenris, and Athenril are fine. I think they look better than their DAO counterparts. The elves need to be fleshed out(pun not intended) more so they look frail and elven without being sticks.

[Serpieri Nei]

Those are some ---um attractive elves -- just had to take my contacts out to enjoy them

To all you modders out there - THANK YOU - for making the elves pretty again - it's a shame that I have to install multiple mods to make it happen since Bioware's art direction leaves something to be desired.

Modifié par Serpieri Nei, 08 juin 2011 - 07:29 .

[mellifera]

Oh hell naw, you did not just insult Jethann. IT'S ONNNNN.

[tmp7704]

Filament wrote...

According to some other thread I was reading, they do have height differences. Maybe not baked into the character itself, but into their unique armor?

I haven't seen that other thread so dunno. It may be the custom armour/appearance but on the other hand it also easily could be difference caused by slope of the surface the characters are standing on (the mesh they use for collision is separate from the visible level geometry, so in quite a few places what looks like even surface doesn't have to be)

Also at least in case of DAO different heights are really difficult to pull off because the head/face morph is set at fixed height and the body has to match that simply so everything lines up. I don't know if they changed the engine for DA2 to remove that limitation.

[tmp7704]

yukidama wrote...

Oh hell naw, you did not just insult Jethann. IT'S ONNNNN.

Jethann sucks.

(and he's quite proud of it)

[John Epler]

Just a reminder to remain civil. If you can't share your opinion without vitriol and snide remarks, then I would recommend you refrain from sharing it.

Of course, for some of you, it seems that this is in one ear and out the other, but I can try.

[ipgd]

tmp7704 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Oh hell naw, you did not just insult Jethann. IT'S ONNNNN.

Jethann sucks.

(and he's quite proud of it)

Why suck if you're not sucking hard?

[tmp7704]

ipgd wrote...

Why suck if you're not sucking hard?

Titillation; and variety being the spice of life, and all that

edit: woot, i fully expected titillation to fall victim to the censor filter.

Modifié par tmp7704, 08 juin 2011 - 07:25 .

[Ainmarh]

Merilsell wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I hate how people compare the elves to the Na'vi..... I just don't see how people can see that aside from the lithe body structure, which they were described in Origins to have anyway (Codex, Sten, etc...)

Umm..yeah. Cough.

Um, comparing the proportion of... well, anything, neither part is actually similar. For one, the Na'vi have a nose taking 50 percent of their ugly face.

Apart from that, you're comparing one elf of how many?

[Bejos_]

Akka le Vil wrote...

I'm wondering...

I CONSTANTLY see everywhere the "should of", "I of to" and the like.
Is this some kind of obscure rule in english where "have" can be replaced by "of" ?

Not to mention "try and ..." instead of "try to ..."
The new English. Made for illiterates, by illiterates. (People with non-native English are forgiven, of course. But then, it's never those with non-native English that make these mistakes.)
Anyway, back OT:

Elves just need to be tinkered with again. Perhaps there are different ethnicities that would account for the various (DA:O, DA2 and DA3) elves? That's a neat idea.

[Guns]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Shiny, scantily-clad anime-inspired elves kind of don't fit within our setting, don't you think? The ones in the image are kinda creepy, in a "be one of us, Gerald" kind of way.

And yet white skinned avatars fit in.

Ainmarh wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I hate how people compare the elves to the Na'vi..... I just don't see how people can see that aside from the lithe body structure, which they were described in Origins to have anyway (Codex, Sten, etc...)

Umm..yeah. Cough.



[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sick.png[/smilie]

Um, comparing the proportion of... well, anything, neither part is actually similar. For one, the Na'vi have a nose taking 50 percent of their ugly face.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Apart from that, you're comparing one elf of how many?

They're so blatantly similar its not even debatable.

Modifié par Guns, 08 juin 2011 - 07:46 .

[DahliaLynn]

Ainmarh wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I hate how people compare the elves to the Na'vi..... I just don't see how people can see that aside from the lithe body structure, which they were described in Origins to have anyway (Codex, Sten, etc...)

Umm..yeah. Cough.

Um, comparing the proportion of... well, anything, neither part is actually similar. For one, the Na'vi have a nose taking 50 percent of their ugly face.

Apart from that, you're comparing one elf of how many?

Actually they are very similar, in that, the nose bridge has little or no indentation, meaning, the nose extends directly from the forehead (marking the major difference between Elves/Na'vi and Humans). They are also similar in the fact that the Iris is also enlarged. Other than that, there is little difference between the two facially aside from the nose width.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with their being similar.  

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 08 juin 2011 - 07:52 .

[DragonRageGT]

I once translated a movie about the Challenger Shuttle disaster and the video was about "Groupthink" which played a part in not preventing that disaster. I'd bet the same thing happened in the development of DA2 in many areas.

[Ainmarh]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Actually they are very similar, in that, the nose bridge has little or no indentation, meaning, the nose extends directly from the forehead (marking the major difference between Elves/Na'vi and Humans). They are also similar in the fact that the Iris is also enlarged. Other than that, there is little difference between the two facially aside from the nose width.  

Sure there are, the hairline, the eye shape, the cheekbone, the ears, the forehead itself.

[DahliaLynn]

Ainmarh wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

Actually they are very similar, in that, the nose bridge has little or no indentation, meaning, the nose extends directly from the forehead (marking the major difference between Elves/Na'vi and Humans). They are also similar in the fact that the Iris is also enlarged. Other than that, there is little difference between the two facially aside from the nose width.  

Sure there are, the hairline, the eye shape, the cheekbone, the ears, the forehead itself.

Hairlines vary amongst all humans. I don't see why they should remain exactly the same in each Elf or Na'vi. the Na'vi cheek width was designed to maintain balance in facial structure because of the wider nose. Proportionally, the elves are the same.

[kyuubifred]

I liked the new elves. Sure, a lot of them were rather unattractive, but so were plenty of the humans. And I agree that they look a bit like Na'vi, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Such pretty eyes...
Hands in general do need to be fixed, though. *shudders*

Anyways, I look forward to playing around with the character creator if we get elves back for DA3.

[Satyricon331]

Akka le Vil wrote...
I'm wondering...

I CONSTANTLY see everywhere the "should of", "I of to" and the like.
Is this some kind of obscure rule in english where "have" can be replaced by "of" ?

You know, I never saw it before coming to these boards. My theory is that the DA2 elves are so repulsive they innately cast a Blind spell and people lost their saves. I know I did. Now we can't see our typos.

[Jerrybnsn]

Bejos_ wrote...

Elves just need to be tinkered with again. Perhaps there are different ethnicities that would account for the various (DA:O, DA2 and DA3) elves? That's a neat idea.

I made a more simpler solution for the elf problem: 
Reports of a strange, terrible disease that has been effecting the elven population of the Free Marches are true! These once beautiful creatures have contacted a rare disease (Goat disease or GD) whose side effects are, anorexia, disformed cheeks and jaws, large inflammatory of the ears causing drooping, and a large inflammatory of upper bridge of the nose continuing up to the forehead. Please, help us find a cure before this disease spreads to the rest of Thedas!

Hopefully the cure is found before DAIII is released.