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[andar91]

 I know the ending was cited as being a bad point for DA2 in some reviews, and while it was anticlimactic when compared to Origins', I loved it.  Why?  Because it got me TOTALLY excited for whatever's coming next.  Mike Laidlaw wasn't kidding when he said that the sandcastle has been kicked over.  

So what do you think is coming next?  We pretty much know DA3 is being made.

I have this idea of a big war starting and the protagonist being a part of it (starting low and becoming a vital figure yadayadayada you know the trope-but hey, tropes are tropes for a reason: they work).  I also think that Flemeth and Morrigan will play a more central role in the plot of DA3.

[KLGChaos]

The only thing I figure DA3 will be about is the war in Orlais. It was mentioned throughout the game and Bodahn said he and Sandal would be heading there.

I'm seeing similarities between Knights of the Old Republic and the DA series. Just look at the comparison between the endings of Knights of the Old Republic 2 and DA2-- both stories involve the protagonists of each game suddenly disappearing over something big and dark coming. Never did get that threequel for KotoR that I wanted, just an MMO instead. Oh man, I hope they don't decide to do the same with DA.... >.>

Modifié par KLGChaos, 08 juin 2011 - 08:01 .

[andar91]

KLGChaos wrote...

The only thing I figure DA3 will be about is the war in Orlais. It was mentioned throughout the game and Bodahn said he and Sandal would be heading there.

I'm drawing noticed between Knights of the Old Republic and the DA series. Just look at the comparison between the endings of Knights of the Old Republic 2 and DA2-- both stories involve the protagonists of each game suddenly disappearing over something big and dark coming. Never did get that threequel for KotoR that I wanted, just an MMO instead. Oh man, I hope they don't decide to do the same with DA.... >.>

Yeah, I loved KOTOR 2 and was sooooo sad when I heard the next game was an mmo.

[sphinxess]

I could see that happening - Bioware having DA3 start 40 years after the final battle in Kirkwall - the mage/templar war is long over...

[Rolenka]

If DA3 were to be about the Templars vs. Mages war, they'd have to let players choose a side, and then they'd be making two different games. I'm with sphinxess; I think it will be about some other as-of-yet-unknown threat. Sort of like how DA2 had very little to do with the darkspawn. And it has to be on an armageddon scale, simply because it is the conclusion to a trilogy.

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

[HSHAW]

Rolenka wrote...

If DA3 were to be about the Templars vs. Mages war, they'd have to let players choose a side, and then they'd be making two different games. I'm with sphinxess; I think it will be about some other as-of-yet-unknown threat. Sort of like how DA2 had very little to do with the darkspawn. And it has to be on an armageddon scale, simply because it is the conclusion to a trilogy.

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

Alternatively, the war gets interrupted by something else (let's say a greater pride demon is summoned, is was said that if one was summoned it would be a threat to the entire world after all).

Also, where was Dragon Age confirmed to be a trilogy?

Modifié par HSHAW, 08 juin 2011 - 07:54 .

[CookysNCreem]

Rolenka wrote...

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

This.

Or, at least, give us a satisfying conclusion. Getting haunted by dead Anders wasn't exactly high on my Hawke's priorities. (Oh, the early plot bugs. Hilarious.)

Modifié par CookysNCreem, 08 juin 2011 - 08:17 .

[BlueMew]

CookysNCreem wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

This.

Oh, I don't know. I kind of am okay with it. No forced conclusions you don't like for a character you do like. 

[stoicsentry2]

Implications: we rushed to get this game out ASAP and couldn't think of anything in time.

[Icinix]

BlueMew wrote...

CookysNCreem wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

This.

Oh, I don't know. I kind of am okay with it. No forced conclusions you don't like for a character you do like. 

If I wanted to use my imagination for how a character ended up, I'd write the story myself.


I watch movies, play games and read books to have a story told.  When any of these media end something on a note like that it just screams that they couldn't decide how to finish it so they cheaped out.

Total Recall, Tomb Raider, Inception, KOTOR, Dragon Age, You're all jerks for this little tactic.

[BlueMew]

Icinix wrote...

BlueMew wrote...

CookysNCreem wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

This.

Oh, I don't know. I kind of am okay with it. No forced conclusions you don't like for a character you do like. 

If I wanted to use my imagination for how a character ended up, I'd write the story myself.


I watch movies, play games and read books to have a story told.  When any of these media end something on a note like that it just screams that they couldn't decide how to finish it so they cheaped out.

Total Recall, Tomb Raider, Inception, KOTOR, Dragon Age, You're all jerks for this little tactic.

*shrug* I say it's still better than rocks fall. People die.

[Icinix]

BlueMew wrote...

Icinix wrote...

BlueMew wrote...

CookysNCreem wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

This.

Oh, I don't know. I kind of am okay with it. No forced conclusions you don't like for a character you do like. 

If I wanted to use my imagination for how a character ended up, I'd write the story myself.


I watch movies, play games and read books to have a story told.  When any of these media end something on a note like that it just screams that they couldn't decide how to finish it so they cheaped out.

Total Recall, Tomb Raider, Inception, KOTOR, Dragon Age, You're all jerks for this little tactic.

*shrug* I say it's still better than rocks fall. People die.

At least its definitive.  You know beyond a shadow of a doubt, its over.  you don't get left years hanging for a new game to finish off the story - only to discover they stopped giving a rats arse and moved onto to other pastures and create an MMO.




*runs crying from thread*

[River5]

Strangely enough, I never thought about the ending of DA2 as a simple “Mages v.s. Templars” war; since the Circle of Magi and the Templar Order were, technically, both under Chantry rule (all Knight Commanders and First Enchanters must answer to the Grand Clerics).

Yes, they say that the Mages and Templars are now at open war with each other… However, the greater implication of that war is that it has brought the Chantry itself on the verge of collapse. This is threatening to make them loose their political and social power. Cassandra (the seeker) seemed to be trying to find the Champion with the hopes of allowing the Chantry to regain control over at the very least one of their factions (depending which group you sided with).

Since the Divine herself in is Orlais (and there’s plenty of elements in DA2 indicating that Orlais just might be where we are headed next), I wouldn’t be surprised if the events of DA3 dealt in some way or another with the Chantry’s struggles to remain in power, and fight the change that is coming throughout Thedas.

[Rolenka]

BlueMew wrote...

Icinix wrote...

BlueMew wrote...

CookysNCreem wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

This.

Oh, I don't know. I kind of am okay with it. No forced conclusions you don't like for a character you do like. 

If I wanted to use my imagination for how a character ended up, I'd write the story myself.


I watch movies, play games and read books to have a story told.  When any of these media end something on a note like that it just screams that they couldn't decide how to finish it so they cheaped out.

Total Recall, Tomb Raider, Inception, KOTOR, Dragon Age, You're all jerks for this little tactic.

*shrug* I say it's still better than rocks fall. People die.

You mean like in NWN2? 

Modifié par Rolenka, 08 juin 2011 - 03:29 .

[ipgd]

Rolenka wrote...

If DA3 were to be about the Templars vs. Mages war, they'd have to let players choose a side, and then they'd be making two different games. I'm with sphinxess; I think it will be about some other as-of-yet-unknown threat. Sort of like how DA2 had very little to do with the darkspawn. And it has to be on an armageddon scale, simply because it is the conclusion to a trilogy.

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

Dragon Age is not a trilogy. That is Mass Effect.

[LobselVith8]

andar91 wrote...

 I know the ending was cited as being a bad point for DA2 in some reviews, and while it was anticlimactic when compared to Origins', I loved it.  Why?  Because it got me TOTALLY excited for whatever's coming next.  Mike Laidlaw wasn't kidding when he said that the sandcastle has been kicked over.  

It's not the fact that the Circles of Magi broke free from the Chantry, or the templars leaving the Chantry to hunt the mages, but the events that lead to it - Orsino becoming a Harvester for no sensible reason except to avoid having the mage option as the "good option," and Meredith becoming possessed by a macguffin that made her into an awful caracture. Add to that Hawke being mostly reactive, and that alone went against Laidlaw's claims that Hawke would shape Kirkwall with his actions over the course of ten years when the choices of seven years didn't matter and lead to two virtually identical endings.

andar91 wrote...

So what do you think is coming next?  We pretty much know DA3 is being made.

Hopefully, a proactive protagonist and a more coherent plot that doesn't try to make both sides repellant in an awful attempt to be morally ambiguous. I don't think making virtually everyone act like an idiot for the sake of moving the plot forward made for a good story in DA2, and I'd like to see this rectified for the third installment where characters act with intelligence and where choices actually matter.

andar91 wrote...

I have this idea of a big war starting and the protagonist being a part of it (starting low and becoming a vital figure yadayadayada you know the trope-but hey, tropes are tropes for a reason: they work).  I also think that Flemeth and Morrigan will play a more central role in the plot of DA3.

Morrigan might be heading to Orlais, as one of the Epilogues indicated, and since she could be romantically linked to The Warden, it's possible they came back and he reasserted himself as the Warden-Commander and Arl of Amaranthine after the Eluvian venture while she planned her next move.

There's the question of what Flemeth has planned, and whether Hawke would be involved. Merrill is a potential love interest for the protagonist for DA2, and I think she'd be curious about the implications of The Warden and Morrigan having gone into an operational Eluvian that went "beyond this world and beyond the Fade." I can imagine Hawke (and possibly Merrill) being gone around the same time as The Warden if Flemeth tries to involve them in her plans, although what her agenda could be is anyone's guess. Maybe it has to do with what Sandal said, about the magic coming back, or perhaps it has to do with what the golem says, about "the Stone beneath Orlais."

[Huntress]

River5 wrote...

Strangely enough, I never thought about the ending of DA2 as a simple “Mages v.s. Templars” war; since the Circle of Magi and the Templar Order were, technically, both under Chantry rule (all Knight Commanders and First Enchanters must answer to the Grand Clerics).

Yes, they say that the Mages and Templars are now at open war with each other… However, the greater implication of that war is that it has brought the Chantry itself on the verge of collapse. This is threatening to make them loose their political and social power. Cassandra (the seeker) seemed to be trying to find the Champion with the hopes of allowing the Chantry to regain control over at the very least one of their factions (depending which group you sided with).

Since the Divine herself in is Orlais (and there’s plenty of elements in DA2 indicating that Orlais just might be where we are headed next), I wouldn’t be surprised if the events of DA3 dealt in some way or another with the Chantry’s struggles to remain in power, and fight the change that is coming throughout Thedas.

Yes and with new location comes new character/s , the warden is GONE, Hawke is GONE, lets hope we get something more solid in DA3 or am done. Alot of good R,A,Salvator books out there that I haven't read.

[BlueMew]

Rolenka wrote...

BlueMew wrote...

Icinix wrote...

BlueMew wrote...

CookysNCreem wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

Also, the "our hero rode off into the sunset and was never heard from again" is old and tired, Bioware. Stop it.

This.

Oh, I don't know. I kind of am okay with it. No forced conclusions you don't like for a character you do like. 

If I wanted to use my imagination for how a character ended up, I'd write the story myself.


I watch movies, play games and read books to have a story told.  When any of these media end something on a note like that it just screams that they couldn't decide how to finish it so they cheaped out.

Total Recall, Tomb Raider, Inception, KOTOR, Dragon Age, You're all jerks for this little tactic.

*shrug* I say it's still better than rocks fall. People die.

You mean like in NWN2? 

Yes 

Also, regarding Salvatore, I stopped reading those years ago -- if there's anyone I'd like to drop a rock on it's Catti-Sue...

[Pericles]

Obviously the third game will be about the reapers... Bioware sure has not kept much consistent thus far in the dragon age trilogy so why not.

[Mickespel]

There is a distinct possibility that DA3 will deal with a Qunari invasion and that the protagonist will be forced to encourage an end to the mage/templar war so they can together face a common enemy. For Morrigan, it is possible that the Alluvian took her to some place in Orlais and further in time. In case they want to add her back in the story, unaged.

[Torax]

I doubt the Qunari would be the main enemy threat any time soon. The Qun is odd in how it's rules are set. So for example, how you can end act 2 may leave the Qun in a position that may not allow them to go to all out war yet. The Tome was very crucial and would have been worth going to War for. But on top of that. Yes the leader of the body of the Qunari died, but his death was in an accepted duel of honor. It wasn't an assassination attempt. It was a battle and by someone who then proved how worthy they were. They killed the greatest of their Army.

I just hope that Orlais is just one of many locations. I have had enough of being stuck in the same city for a game...

[dragonflight288]

I fully expect a Qunari invasion. Sten alluded to it in Origins, the Arishok said they would return. I can see them rushing in and people are forced to either accept mages need freedom or need to be leashed...based on player preference in an attempt to fight the Qunari, and we see the results of both across Thedas.

[TEWR]

Mickespel wrote...

There is a distinct possibility that DA3 will deal with a Qunari invasion and that the protagonist will be forced to encourage an end to the mage/templar war so they can together face a common enemy. For Morrigan, it is possible that the Alluvian took her to some place in Orlais and further in time. In case they want to add her back in the story, unaged.

They have enough trouble keeping a timeline in working condition without time machines. Adding a time machine Eluvian will just make everything worse for them.

[River5]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Mickespel wrote...

There is a distinct possibility that DA3 will deal with a Qunari invasion and that the protagonist will be forced to encourage an end to the mage/templar war so they can together face a common enemy. For Morrigan, it is possible that the Alluvian took her to some place in Orlais and further in time. In case they want to add her back in the story, unaged.

They have enough trouble keeping a timeline in working condition without time machines. Adding a time machine Eluvian will just make everything worse for them.

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