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[Clonedzero]

nah captain bailey so he can redo stuff like this...

www.youtube.com/watch

[Tamahome560]

If this happens I will be very pleased (I have chosen Anderson as the councillor).

[Marta Rio]

DSerpa wrote...

At the end of this video, it looks as though Anderson decides to stay behind on Earth (read the dialogue choices on the screen behind Casey Hudson). Given that the Reapers are, well... reaping, and that Anderson is only a few steps from the Normandy and escape, I'm inferring that he stays behind to organize the Resistance while Shepard goes for reinforcements. I was worried that he was going to be killed off in the first ten minutes (R.I.P. Jenkins), but becoming John Connor actually sounds like an interesting role for him.

Awww shiznitz....nice catch on that one.  This seems quite logical and a good role for Anderson to play.  Nice to see that he's not going to be cannon fodder, at least not initially.

[WizenSlinky0]

No it doesn't seem logical. At all. Unless you expect him to be dead by the time you reach Earth again. In which case it becomes logical again.

But if that's what they go with I'll deal.

[Tamahome560]

The Reapers are not on Earth to destroy humanity, they want to harvest it so they will try to limit the casualties hence there is a chance for resistance surviving. If they wanted they could have destroyed Earth on their initial assault.

[kaiki01]

I had already foreseen this happening.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7554363/4#7564046

"I HOPE that it isn't a, Anderson stays behind to lead the fight against
the Reapers. Then you return with all the allied races, only to find
Anderson has fallen to Indoctrination and/or has become an Anderson
husk(Anderhusk?). Then a boss fight between Shepard & Anderson plays
out, possibly in the same place that Anderson first met Shepard, while
dramatic music blares.

If any dev wants to shoot down my fear, I would be sooo thankful D:"

Modifié par kaiki01, 08 juin 2011 - 07:59 .

[Gorskijesih]

The paragon one actually says:

"--(something I can't read)-- stay, I'm staying!"

[WizenSlinky0]

Tamahome560 wrote...

The Reapers are not on Earth to
destroy humanity, they want to harvest it so they will try to limit the
casualties hence there is a chance for resistance surviving. If they
wanted they could have destroyed Earth on their initial assault.

No. They would likely harvest and kill quickly, pack them up, and move on. Or at least that's exactly what they should do.

It does not make sense for them to be that slow and unorganized, after thousands of cycles of this, as to allow a resistance movement to survive long enough for an entire galaxy to unite AND still reach the planet.

Like I said, I'll deal with it after some momentary disappointment. It's not a game breaker or anything. But it does not make sense.

Gorskijesih wrote...

The paragon one actually says:

"--(something I can't read)-- stay, I'm staying!"

Haven't watched enough bromance action movies, it's obviously "If you stay, I'm staying!"

[Chuvvy]

Sjaddix wrote...

Yes god knows udina cannot lead La Resistance.

You underestimate his douchebaggery

[Tamahome560]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Tamahome560 wrote...

The Reapers are not on Earth to
destroy humanity, they want to harvest it so they will try to limit the
casualties hence there is a chance for resistance surviving. If they
wanted they could have destroyed Earth on their initial assault.

No. They would likely harvest and kill quickly, pack them up, and move on. Or at least that's exactly what they should do.

It does not make sense for them to be that slow and unorganized, after thousands of cycles of this, as to allow a resistance movement to survive long enough for an entire galaxy to unite AND still reach the planet.

Killing them would be quick but trying to harvest 7+ billion tiny humans might be a bit time consuming. I don't see how it is impossible for Rebels to hold out, it's not like they are shooting their guns at the Reapers hoping that they can harm massive ships, they will hide and try to survive while fighting off any ground forces that are sent to harvest them , try to save humans from being harvested until help arrives. Not trying to fight them off, just survive until Shepard brings help just like the British Sniper said, maybe do some guerrilla assaults.

Obviously Reapers are launching assaults around the whole galaxy so I think that we will be losing this war until some plot twist that gives us en edge.

Modifié par Tamahome560, 08 juin 2011 - 08:35 .

[Rolling Flame]

Good spotting, although, given all the crap that was going down, I think Anderson might be acting on fool's hope. Hopefully he doesn't get indoctrinated, but given the amount of Reapers...

[SkittlesKat96]

 Probably...I'd imagine there would be underground bunkers and places to hide from the Reapers, maybe the military scrounged up some of their defenses or something and saved a bunch of civilians.

[Mr. C]

Montezuma IV wrote...

They pay Kieth David too much to kill him in the first 10 mins.

Pretty much this.

[jamesp81]

DSerpa wrote...

At the end of this video, it looks as though Anderson decides to stay behind on Earth (read the dialogue choices on the screen behind Casey Hudson). Given that the Reapers are, well... reaping, and that Anderson is only a few steps from the Normandy and escape, I'm inferring that he stays behind to organize the Resistance while Shepard goes for reinforcements. I was worried that he was going to be killed off in the first ten minutes (R.I.P. Jenkins), but becoming John Connor actually sounds like an interesting role for him.

Makes sense.  Anderson is an N7 trained badass like Shepard, it's just the sort of impossible job N7 is expected to get done.

It'll certainly make me feel better knowing that there's someone making sure there's still an Earth to save when I come back with my whole truckload of whoopass for the Reapers.

[jamesp81]

Hathur wrote...

That certainly would be a cool outcome (him leading the resistance on earth I mean)... if they Kill Anderson off in the intro I'll be very aggravated... a character of such poise and integrity deserves to at least make it close to the end of the game where he could at least die in a noble and honorable manner, having fought to the bitter end (if he has to die I mean.. though I'd prefer he survived at the end).

My preference in general is for character survival to be based on player performance.  In other words, liberating Earth will be like the SM in ME2.  If you complete the campaign, you save Earth, the variable is how much you lose to do it.

I agree I'd rather there at least be an option for him to survive if you play right.  And if he has to die....it should be in a way so epic that every krogan in the galaxy will be jealous for millenia to come.

[jamesp81]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

It just doesn't make sense to me that anyone would still be alive on Earth by the time you get there. Sorry. They've done this for millions of years. Pretty sure they know how to reap a planet, well before you finish all of your side-quests for the aliens.

I will be momentarily disappointed if anyone is still alive on Earth when it is retaken.

Pay more attention to two things: 1) The ME3 announcement trailer and 2) Vigil in ME1.

Both are strong indicators that 'Reaping' takes a long damned time.  It's not simple destruction; if they wanted to do that, they could nuke it from orbit and turn the whole planet into a lifeless, radioactive rock in less than 24 hours.

The ME3 announcement trailer indicates 9 million were killed in the first week.  If you "only" kill 9 million a week, it would literally take over 20 years to kill everyone on Earth (feel free to run the math yourself).  Now, I suspect as more Reapers land the smoothie machines get set up, this weekly death count will climb.

This all jives with what Vigil told us in ME1.  It took centuries for the Reapers to reap all the Prothean worlds.  Months, possibly over a year, were probably spent Reaping high population worlds.

[Forst1999]

Tamahome560 wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Tamahome560 wrote...

The Reapers are not on Earth to
destroy humanity, they want to harvest it so they will try to limit the
casualties hence there is a chance for resistance surviving. If they
wanted they could have destroyed Earth on their initial assault.

No. They would likely harvest and kill quickly, pack them up, and move on. Or at least that's exactly what they should do.

It does not make sense for them to be that slow and unorganized, after thousands of cycles of this, as to allow a resistance movement to survive long enough for an entire galaxy to unite AND still reach the planet.

Killing them would be quick but trying to harvest 7+ billion tiny humans might be a bit time consuming. I don't see how it is impossible for Rebels to hold out, it's not like they are shooting their guns at the Reapers hoping that they can harm massive ships, they will hide and try to survive while fighting off any ground forces that are sent to harvest them , try to save humans from being harvested until help arrives. Not trying to fight them off, just survive until Shepard brings help just like the British Sniper said, maybe do some guerrilla assaults.

Obviously Reapers are launching assaults around the whole galaxy so I think that we will be losing this war until some plot twist that gives us en edge.

I agree. Didn't Vigil say that the Reaper's genocide of the Prothean took centuries? Crippling the military might be quick, but "reaping" isn't. So there is a time for resistance. It might be futile, but it might save some lives for a few weeks.

[jamesp81]

Whacka wrote...

Will Resistance members bear the Lambda logo?

...

Oh, wait.

Anyway, if Anderson does stay on earth, I hope he doesn't die. Just because he's awesome.

With that said, however, if he does die, you know it will be while doing something so crazy awesome that even all the other Reapers will stop and say, "Maybe we shouldn't have come to this world....."

[Tripedius]

Nope Andersson dies on earth at the end of the demo in the scene that follows it.

[jamesp81]

Tamahome560 wrote...

The Reapers are not on Earth to destroy humanity, they want to harvest it so they will try to limit the casualties hence there is a chance for resistance surviving. If they wanted they could have destroyed Earth on their initial assault.

Complete destruction could be achieved with orbital bombardment in less than a day, no landings required.

For whatever reason, they want out precious bodily fluids.  Meaning we have time to invent new, creative ways to kill them.

[Icinix]

jamesp81 wrote...

Tamahome560 wrote...

The Reapers are not on Earth to destroy humanity, they want to harvest it so they will try to limit the casualties hence there is a chance for resistance surviving. If they wanted they could have destroyed Earth on their initial assault.

Complete destruction could be achieved with orbital bombardment in less than a day, no landings required.

For whatever reason, they want out precious bodily fluids.  Meaning we have time to invent new, creative ways to kill them.

BioWare tried to put in a scene where the Reapers had Shep tied down and decided to tell him everything he ever needed to know about their plans before walking away and leaving an inept husk to kill him...but it just didn't work to the cinematic style they wanted.

So this is the next best thing.

[jamesp81]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Tamahome560 wrote...

The Reapers are not on Earth to
destroy humanity, they want to harvest it so they will try to limit the
casualties hence there is a chance for resistance surviving. If they
wanted they could have destroyed Earth on their initial assault.

No. They would likely harvest and kill quickly, pack them up, and move on. Or at least that's exactly what they should do.

It does not make sense for them to be that slow and unorganized, after thousands of cycles of this, as to allow a resistance movement to survive long enough for an entire galaxy to unite AND still reach the planet.

Like I said, I'll deal with it after some momentary disappointment. It's not a game breaker or anything. But it does not make sense.

Gorskijesih wrote...

The paragon one actually says:

"--(something I can't read)-- stay, I'm staying!"

Haven't watched enough bromance action movies, it's obviously "If you stay, I'm staying!"

The writers have declared that Reaping takes time, and that's all the sense it has to make.

This is also why Reaper Plan A is to use the citadel relay to shut down the relay network.  Without feasible FTL travel, all star systems are isolated and incapable of mounting a coordinated defense.  This apparently is needed so that the Reapers have the time they need to do a "proper" reaping.

Hell, the only reason we even have a chance at winning this war and saving Earth is because what they do is time consuming.  If that weren't true, we'd just boot up the game, fight a few battles and then get the critical mission failure message: everyone's dead.

[jamesp81]

Tamahome560 wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Tamahome560 wrote...

The Reapers are not on Earth to
destroy humanity, they want to harvest it so they will try to limit the
casualties hence there is a chance for resistance surviving. If they
wanted they could have destroyed Earth on their initial assault.

No. They would likely harvest and kill quickly, pack them up, and move on. Or at least that's exactly what they should do.

It does not make sense for them to be that slow and unorganized, after thousands of cycles of this, as to allow a resistance movement to survive long enough for an entire galaxy to unite AND still reach the planet.

Killing them would be quick but trying to harvest 7+ billion tiny humans might be a bit time consuming. I don't see how it is impossible for Rebels to hold out, it's not like they are shooting their guns at the Reapers hoping that they can harm massive ships, they will hide and try to survive while fighting off any ground forces that are sent to harvest them , try to save humans from being harvested until help arrives. Not trying to fight them off, just survive until Shepard brings help just like the British Sniper said, maybe do some guerrilla assaults.

Obviously Reapers are launching assaults around the whole galaxy so I think that we will be losing this war until some plot twist that gives us en edge.

Actually it's 11.4 billion in 2185.  But your point is well taken.

[Icinix]

It would be pretty epic to have Anderson staying back helping lead a resistance. Then depending on choices made through the game, when you return (if you return) him still being alive (or dead) would be some epic work from BioWare.

It would also be a great moment for a non-lingering bro hug.