No confirmation of Anderson's fate.
Hope he makes it.
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So Anderson leads the Resistance?
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Posté 08 juin 2011 - 09:45
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I noticed during the live Q&A a few minutes ago that they ended the demo of the Earth level before the cargo bay opened and Shepard jumped inside.
No confirmation of Anderson's fate.
Hope he makes it.
No confirmation of Anderson's fate.
Hope he makes it.
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Posté 08 juin 2011 - 10:44
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If anyone one watched Casey's interview today the 8th, you see that Anderson does not get into the Normandy, he tells shepard to go, and a blue shuttle arrives.
Okay, remember the trailer of a man staring at two shuttles blowing up.....Thats shepard watching from the Normandy hanger, you can tell by the arms.
Its a shame but Anderson is going the way of the dinos.
Also in Jesse live demo an hour ago, he didnt talk much do you can hear duologue , you can hear him saying ''we've got wounded'' and in the trailer wounded people get into the blue shuttle you see Anderson about to head to. It ads up....but not confirmed..You'll have to wait 8 months.
Okay, remember the trailer of a man staring at two shuttles blowing up.....Thats shepard watching from the Normandy hanger, you can tell by the arms.
Its a shame but Anderson is going the way of the dinos.
Also in Jesse live demo an hour ago, he didnt talk much do you can hear duologue , you can hear him saying ''we've got wounded'' and in the trailer wounded people get into the blue shuttle you see Anderson about to head to. It ads up....but not confirmed..You'll have to wait 8 months.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:23
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eoinnx02 wrote...
If anyone one watched Casey's interview today the 8th, you see that Anderson does not get into the Normandy, he tells shepard to go, and a blue shuttle arrives.
Okay, remember the trailer of a man staring at two shuttles blowing up.....Thats shepard watching from the Normandy hanger, you can tell by the arms.
Its a shame but Anderson is going the way of the dinos.
Also in Jesse live demo an hour ago, he didnt talk much do you can hear duologue , you can hear him saying ''we've got wounded'' and in the trailer wounded people get into the blue shuttle you see Anderson about to head to. It ads up....but not confirmed..You'll have to wait 8 months.
That's even more of a stretch than my idea. You're trying to piece together a gameplay demo with a cinematic trailer that doesn't even show Shepard or Anderson.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:26
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Resistance?
What do you think it is?
Terminator?!
Oh wait....
What do you think it is?
Terminator?!
Oh wait....
#55
Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:31
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I like the idea of him staying back.
I just hope that if he has to die we have an option for Shep to use his Shepard powers and replace him with Udina instead.
Or just let me kill Udina, thats cool too.
I just hope that if he has to die we have an option for Shep to use his Shepard powers and replace him with Udina instead.
Or just let me kill Udina, thats cool too.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:33
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Their should be a part when you play as Anderson and are all alone and fighting for your life. Sorta like the joker bit in ME2.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:35
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That would be awesome. He might be getting up there, but he was almost the first human spectre if it wasn't for Saren...he's still resourceful, brave and a good fighter. I can see him leading resistance.
As for the notion that everyone ought to be dead or indoctrinated...it makes me think of Battlestar Galactica (the new one) about the resistance...if you watched BSG you know what I mean,
It seems like some humans could survive if they hid well enough. The Reapers themselves are too large to explore every tiny space without just nuking everything (which they could have easily done within the first few minutes of the game), so all the resistance would have to keep at bay are mindless husks.
As for the notion that everyone ought to be dead or indoctrinated...it makes me think of Battlestar Galactica (the new one) about the resistance...if you watched BSG you know what I mean,
It seems like some humans could survive if they hid well enough. The Reapers themselves are too large to explore every tiny space without just nuking everything (which they could have easily done within the first few minutes of the game), so all the resistance would have to keep at bay are mindless husks.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:44
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If he dies Udina becomes councilor ?
...So what's the point in choosing Anderson ?
...So what's the point in choosing Anderson ?
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:48
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Iwantobelieve wrote...
If he dies Udina becomes councilor ?
...So what's the point in choosing Anderson ?
But if he dies then Udina become the councilor then I kill Udina it would create balance.
I'd sacrifice the galactic political position of the human race just to kill him. And yes I'm still holding that grudge from ME1.
Nobody locks down my ship! NOOOBODYY!! O_O
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:48
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I hope that BioWare doesn't give him the same fate as Captain Keyes from Halo:CE... AKA find him as a husk when you return... That would be interesting, though...
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 02:51
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DSerpa wrote...
I noticed during the live Q&A a few minutes ago that they ended the demo of the Earth level before the cargo bay opened and Shepard jumped inside.
No confirmation of Anderson's fate.
Hope he makes it.
They ended it specifically for that reason. Something is going to happen...
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 03:13
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Iwantobelieve wrote...
If he dies Udina becomes councilor ?
...So what's the point in choosing Anderson ?
In Retribution, Anderson resigned from his position on the Citadel.
Mr. C wrote...
Montezuma IV wrote...
They pay Kieth David too much to kill him in the first 10 mins.
Pretty much this.
Bethesda did it with Patrick Stewart.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 03:25
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Tamahome560 wrote...
Killing them would be quick but
trying to harvest 7+ billion tiny humans might be a bit time consuming. I
don't see how it is impossible for Rebels to hold out, it's not like
they are shooting their guns at the Reapers hoping that they can harm
massive ships, they will hide and try to survive while fighting off any
ground forces that are sent to harvest them , try to save humans from
being harvested until help arrives. Not trying to fight them off, just
survive until Shepard brings help just like the British Sniper said,
maybe do some guerrilla assaults.
Obviously Reapers are launching
assaults around the whole galaxy so I think that we will be losing this
war until some plot twist that gives us en edge.
You think highly advanced AI ships don't have the tools to quickly find hold-out groups? How do you *hide* from them, exactly? You'd have to pretty much freeze yourself to avoid thermo scanning or have a bunker that acts much like the normandy's state of the art systems.
If the reapers were really having trouble with a small hold-out group, they'd blow them up, and harvest the easier to gather humans.
I just don't find it really makes sense to save the resistance of earth. If he wants to stay behind, fine, but he should die there.
jamesp81 wrote...
Pay more attention to two things: 1) The ME3 announcement trailer and 2) Vigil in ME1.
Both
are strong indicators that 'Reaping' takes a long damned time. It's
not simple destruction; if they wanted to do that, they could nuke it
from orbit and turn the whole planet into a lifeless, radioactive rock
in less than 24 hours.
The ME3 announcement trailer indicates 9
million were killed in the first week. If you "only" kill 9 million a
week, it would literally take over 20 years to kill everyone on Earth
(feel free to run the math yourself). Now, I suspect as more Reapers
land the smoothie machines get set up, this weekly death count will
climb.
This all jives with what Vigil told us in ME1. It took
centuries for the Reapers to reap all the Prothean worlds. Months,
possibly over a year, were probably spent Reaping high population
worlds.
I get the first one but the second doesn't make sense because you're leaving out some crucial facts. I'll explain more in a second.
The annoucement trailer expands on the problem I have with how long this is supposedly going to take. It doesn't make sense. Why would you even set up the machines on the actual planet? You'd pack up the humans and bring them to a more secure location to do it, not on a resistances home-turf.
Part of the delay during the initial week could be attributed to the reapers getting into place and overcoming planetary level defenses. Which goes quickly. Honestly, after the first week, I'd really expect things to go a lot faster. Just saying.
As for Vigil there are a lot of reasons for why that takes so long. They aren't in a rush, for one. The relays are shut down. On top of that they are gathering the technology of the planet and the resources (something that could be left for later when you're in a rush to cripple the galaxy as in this cycle). Some of those years were likely used just tracking down places like Ilos (even though they didn't find that one) that may be hiden from public eye. Processing information from an entire galaxy takes time. Again, something left for after you cripple and harvest the major planets.
Again, I just have a very hard time believing they wouldn't be able to do this with brutal efficency to continue on to the next objectives...rather than sitting pretty playing with resistance troops and sending some reapers off towards other planets in the meantime.
Considering how long securing the alliegence of every species in the galaxy should theretically take...it doesn't make sense for an earth resistance to still be sitting strong.
jamesp81 wrote...
The writers have declared that Reaping takes time, and that's all the sense it has to make.
This
is also why Reaper Plan A is to use the citadel relay to shut down the
relay network. Without feasible FTL travel, all star systems are
isolated and incapable of mounting a coordinated defense. This
apparently is needed so that the Reapers have the time they need to do a
"proper" reaping.
Hell, the only reason we even have a chance at
winning this war and saving Earth is because what they do is time
consuming. If that weren't true, we'd just boot up the game, fight a
few battles and then get the critical mission failure message:
everyone's dead.
No it's needed in order to ensure the galaxy doesn't unite against them. The element of surprise, isolating defenses, and thereby securing the reaper fleet against any potential damage.
I would think they would speed up their plans considerably when they no longer have surprise on their side.
It's not just that they should do this faster than people are assuming, but also that our objectives before re-taking Earth should take longer than a few weeks. *shrug*
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 03:50
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From Forbes magazine, whose correspondent was able to watch the scene without the talking-over:
"The segment concludes with Shepard making it to the Normandy, where he’s greeted by Ashley Williams, apparently promoted to Lieutenant. There’s a great segment where Anderson tells Shepard he’s staying behind to organize a resistance and fight the Reapers on Earth — but orders Shepard to 'get every species… and make them listen.' "
"The segment concludes with Shepard making it to the Normandy, where he’s greeted by Ashley Williams, apparently promoted to Lieutenant. There’s a great segment where Anderson tells Shepard he’s staying behind to organize a resistance and fight the Reapers on Earth — but orders Shepard to 'get every species… and make them listen.' "
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Thompson family wrote...
From Forbes magazine, whose correspondent was able to watch the scene without the talking-over:
"The segment concludes with Shepard making it to the Normandy, where he’s greeted by Ashley Williams, apparently promoted to Lieutenant. There’s a great segment where Anderson tells Shepard he’s staying behind to organize a resistance and fight the Reapers on Earth — but orders Shepard to 'get every species… and make them listen.' "
Well, I suppose that's that then. Good to know he doesn't get Duncan'd.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 04:55
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m14567 wrote...
That is a cool idea but maybe he'll end up getting indoctrinated and we will have to fight robotic frogger anderson as a sub-boss.
God no! That would be awful!
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 05:04
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Speaking of the Retribution novel...I really hate it when game studios use novels as "canon" and basically negate choices you made in previous games (Bioware is not the only studio that has done this). It makes me think, ok, so you let me make choices that supposedly affect later games, but then you turn around and go, oh wait, we don't actually want that to happen the way you wanted it to happen, so we'll write a novel that changes things that you don't have any control of.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 05:53
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Resistance: Fall of Anderson? Do I sense Mass Effect FPS potential?
Ha ha ha anywho, kinda okay with Anderson staying behind. At least he can keep in contact with Shepard and give him updates from Earth.
Ha ha ha anywho, kinda okay with Anderson staying behind. At least he can keep in contact with Shepard and give him updates from Earth.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 06:13
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DSerpa wrote...
At the end of this video, it looks as though Anderson decides to stay behind on Earth (read the dialogue choices on the screen behind Casey Hudson). Given that the Reapers are, well... reaping, and that Anderson is only a few steps from the Normandy and escape, I'm inferring that he stays behind to organize the Resistance while Shepard goes for reinforcements. I was worried that he was going to be killed off in the first ten minutes (R.I.P. Jenkins), but becoming John Connor actually sounds like an interesting role for him.
I was thinking the same thing myself. I hope it turns out to be true, it's perfect for Anderson. He is so awesome!
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:20
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It nearly makes total sense for him to stay.
It's always important to remember that the 'Reaping' itself does take bloody forever (weeks to months for a planet like Earth, and years for the largely populated other planets, and centuries overall). They want to extract the population (or kill, all of them), extract resources from the planet, and either wreck the eff out of the planet, or just destroy all traces they can that a civilization was there. We need to get back before the killing and extraction is done. That gives not just days, but up to weeks in-lore-time to return. It's a LOT more urgent than the Collector BS, but that's a good thing.
Aside: I strongly think that while you'll be uniting forces and saving humanity in ME3, the franchise could easily continue with the Reapers being some sort of a major force in the galaxy, and the galaxy will have to advance, co-operate, and compete with each other (economically, scientifically, militarily) in order to fully defeat them. It keeps the story and lore advancing. A good parallel may be that in WoW, the Burning Legion invasion is largely pushed back and stopped, but that doesn't stop the presence of demons, cults, evil powers, and even the potential of demonic armies invading the world again.
I don't think we're done with the reapers just yet, but ME3 is a good climactic and action-packed part of the Mass Effect story for the time being.
It's always important to remember that the 'Reaping' itself does take bloody forever (weeks to months for a planet like Earth, and years for the largely populated other planets, and centuries overall). They want to extract the population (or kill, all of them), extract resources from the planet, and either wreck the eff out of the planet, or just destroy all traces they can that a civilization was there. We need to get back before the killing and extraction is done. That gives not just days, but up to weeks in-lore-time to return. It's a LOT more urgent than the Collector BS, but that's a good thing.
Aside: I strongly think that while you'll be uniting forces and saving humanity in ME3, the franchise could easily continue with the Reapers being some sort of a major force in the galaxy, and the galaxy will have to advance, co-operate, and compete with each other (economically, scientifically, militarily) in order to fully defeat them. It keeps the story and lore advancing. A good parallel may be that in WoW, the Burning Legion invasion is largely pushed back and stopped, but that doesn't stop the presence of demons, cults, evil powers, and even the potential of demonic armies invading the world again.
I don't think we're done with the reapers just yet, but ME3 is a good climactic and action-packed part of the Mass Effect story for the time being.
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 03:42
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eoinnx02 wrote...
If anyone one watched Casey's interview today the 8th, you see that Anderson does not get into the Normandy, he tells shepard to go, and a blue shuttle arrives.
Okay, remember the trailer of a man staring at two shuttles blowing up.....Thats shepard watching from the Normandy hanger, you can tell by the arms.
Its a shame but Anderson is going the way of the dinos.
Also in Jesse live demo an hour ago, he didnt talk much do you can hear duologue , you can hear him saying ''we've got wounded'' and in the trailer wounded people get into the blue shuttle you see Anderson about to head to. It ads up....but not confirmed..You'll have to wait 8 months.
thank you for pointing that out, I probabley wouldn't have noticed that on my own. I hope they don't kill him this early (though they probably won't). Can't stand to wait 8-9 months, but i can bear it if it makes the game better.
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 03:49
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When we get back to Earth and if we meet Anderson again, he needs to have a soldier fighting alongside him named Ramirez.
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I may have missed it as I read the responses but just how does Earth hold out for more than two weeks? Even on Eden Prime, the survivors mentioned the noise inside their heads. Indoctrination would, by what we have seen in ME1 and ME2, subjugate the populace of Earth rather quickly.
The only way I can think of currently is that somehow, the indoctrination effect has been negated. Unless it has, Anderson may be alive but no longer considered human.
The only way I can think of currently is that somehow, the indoctrination effect has been negated. Unless it has, Anderson may be alive but no longer considered human.
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 08:46
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Obviously he's going to look for raminez
