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[Krytuun]

I recently bought the Baldur's Gate '4 in 1 Box Set', containing BG1, BG1-TotSC, BG2, and BG2-ToB. Each of these on 1 disc, giving me a total of 4 discs.

A few days ago I installed everything, went to get all the patches at Sorcerers.net, and was able to play. A bit disappointed that I couldn't play without the cd as I can with NWN1, but hey. No man overboard.

However, this morning I launched the game again, and it asked me to enter cd 6. I wasn't able to produce it, so I had to abort - it gave the error "no cd detected", even though I had the BG1 cd in the drive. That one is supposed to have all the game data, no?

I thought it was a randomised thing to make sure people don't use copies, so I launched the game a few more times to try and get it to ask for cd1 or something like it did the first time. But it keeps asking me for cd 6. So I can no longer play BG, it seems.

Help?

[PicklePepperPiper]

Have you considered installing either Easytutu or BG Trilogy - this means the game only needs the Throne of Bhaal disc to play everything.

IICR, Disc 6 is the Tales of the Sword Coast disc - if you've installed the expansion, you need this disc to run BG1.
-PPP

[ussnorway]

Did you install the full version of the game i.e. it is looking for a movie file.
I agree tutu should solve the issue.


BG1 form box set;
cd1= cd1.
cd 2 = 2, 5 and manual.
cd3 = cd 3,cd4 & cd6

[Krytuun]

I'm new to BG, so I've no idea what Easytutu or BG Trilogy is.. are they mods/addons? I know the concept from NWN, but didn't want to download anything but the game patches yet. If you have a link and/or a description of what it does, then I'd appreciate it.

Yes, I installed everything from the cd. Also, I have only 1 cd, not the 3 you list - 1 cd for BG1, 1 cd for BG-TotSC, etc. But if it's searching for movies, how come I was able to launch the game last time after I had installed it? I got some (really crappy quality) trailers, after which the game started, but it didn't whine about cds I don't have. What's different this time?

[PicklePepperPiper]

Just to confirm - you ARE using the expansion disc?

If you're new to BG, I wouldn't recommend EasyTutu or Trilogy just yet - but after you're familiar with the game and want to move onto BG2, I'd definitely recommend it then. Easytutu updates the first BG to the game engine of BG2, so you get all the benefits and it runs a lot smoother. Trilogy does the same but incorporates BG, BG2 and Throne of Bhaal into one game, and has a few more implications on gameplay, but essentially they do the same thing.

To do a full install of BG1 (if you haven't already) uninstall BG and reinstall (if on Windows 7, don't install to Program Files but somewhere else). You need to select "Custom Install" in the setup and check all the boxes, and get maximum cache size. A window will pop up saying there isn't enough space to do the install - ignore that because the program doesn't calculate the space correctly. After that, install Tales of the Sword Coast, again full install, then download and install the official Tales of the Sword Coast patch.

After all that, insert the TotSC disc and try running the game. If that doesn't work, then I'm not sure I know how to help.

All the best, in anycase!
-PPP

Modifié par PicklePepperPiper, 08 juin 2011 - 09:27 .

[Krytuun]

Up till now I had been using the disc of the OC, but I just tried launching the game with the TotSC disc and got the same message about cd 6.

Yes, I'm new to BG indeed... after having had the umpteenth "omg, you're a fan of NWN/Morrowind/WoW and you have NEVER played Baldur's Gate! Shame!" lecture, I bought both games. The box set, because I appreciated having both games and their expansions in 1 box.

I did the full install, in my Games folder on my second partition drive (where the OS - Win7 - isn't located). Made sure everything was included, went to Sorcerers.net for the patches of both games, and that's about it.

But what I don't understand is how come I had no issue at all playing the game when I launched it for the first time. It asked me for cd 1, so I put in the OC disc, and everything worked fine. It's not until now, the second time I'm trying to launch it, that I get this annoying issue. I'm going to check Sorcerers.net to see if there's any specific patches that I might've missed, although I'm quite positive that I picked the correct ones, but if there aren't any then I'm clueless.

[ussnorway]

Krytuun wrote...
But what I don't understand is how come I had no issue at all playing the game when I launched it for the first time. It asked me for cd 1, so I put in the OC disc, and everything worked fine. It's not until now, the second time I'm trying to launch it, that I get this annoying issue.

Because the game plays little movies as you go and you reached a spot where it needs a movie from CD6.
From now onwards to the end of time it will ask for the cd6... even if you start a new game.

It is possable that your disc (or your Disc-drive) is corupt and didn't copy all the files... I'd uninstall the game and reinstall it then see how far you get before it askes for disc 6... that would tell us which file is missing.

You could also try asking for a replacement disc from where you got it... good luck getting TS from places like ebay.

edit;
For reference my BG1 cd6 has;
folder= data
AREA200A.cbf 484kb
AREA2000.cbf 17,599kb
AREA200B.cbf 2,049kb
folder= movies
MovieCD6.bif 18,417kb

Modifié par ussnorway, 08 juin 2011 - 10:32 .

[Krytuun]

ussnorway wrote...

see how far you get before it askes for disc 6... that would tell us which file is missing.

I can tell you that without reinstalling.. it's the beginning. First time all I did was create a character, talk a bit to the innkeeper (and try to nick a bow off him, heh) and then I quit the game without saving my progress. I have no savedata.

---
Checked your listed files against my own, here's what I have:

folder= data
AREA200A.cbf 484kb   -> mine has .bif as extension, size is 1.956 kb
AREA2000.cbf 17,599kb   -> doesn't exist, I do however have AREA0200.bif, which is 35,763 kb *)
AREA200B.cbf 2,049kb   -> mine has .bif as extension, size is 5,705 kb
folder= movies
MovieCD6.bif 18,417kb   -> mine has .bif as extension, size is the same as yours

*) reason I list that one is because said file is placed wrongly when sorting the list alphabetically.. it's placed as though it's AREA2000, rather than AREA0200. Really weird.

Modifié par Krytuun, 08 juin 2011 - 11:13 .

[ussnorway]

Area0200 is a different file.
You should have (and need) a file called AREA2000.bif in your Baldur's Gate\\Data folder.

If you don't have it look on your disc, 17.599kb is the zipped size and it unpacks to approx 24mb when installed... too big for most email severs but if you pm me I'm happy to send to you.

Modifié par ussnorway, 08 juin 2011 - 11:52 .

[Krytuun]

AH yes, I do have it after all - I thought it wasn't there because I assumed the sorting of the files was alphabetically. Apparently it's not, even if you click the 'name' column. Anyway. I have AREA2000.bif, in my data folder, size is24,578 kb.

[ussnorway]

Confirm that you have;
AREA200B.bif 5.57 MB (5,841,884 bytes)... 5,705 kb is a strange number?
AREA200A.bif 1.90 MB (2,001,956 bytes)

If you think you have the four files then that puts us back to using one of these options;

1) easyTuTu (recommended) uses the bg2 engine and therefore will ask for your bg2 or ToB disc to be in the drive while you play. Go here to read about and download it http://forums.gibber...?showtopic=8122

2) download and use a no-cd patch that matches your game version as shown in the Baldur's Gate\\ readme
c. GameSpy Arcade Notes
"Once you have entered GameSpy Arcade... currently v1.3.5521."
& also shows in the bottom left of the options screen.


3) download a torrent image and run the game from that.

I can't help you any more than that... good luck.

Modifié par ussnorway, 08 juin 2011 - 02:07 .

[Krytuun]

Well, after a whole morning of messing around with EasyTutu (with first having to install things called WeiDU and Baldurdash), I found that I'm not able to install the mod. It gives me an error, saying that if I have a non-US copy, I can forget about it ever working. Well, ain't that great.. I couldn't find a version that wasn't so narrowminded, so I guess that means no EasyTutu for me.

I did get the game to work again though, by searching for a no-cd crack as per your second suggestion. Since now the game no longer asks for a non-existent cd, I can finally launch it like it should and see what it's all about. Yay! ^^

Thanks for all the help, it's really appreciated. A shame that EasyTutu limits itself to US copies, but since I'm not -too- bothered by ancient graphics I don't mind using the original engine instead. Pity, but nothing game-breaking.

[PicklePepperPiper]

I'm not using a US copy, and I can run Easytutu. Not sure what the problem is in your case, but rest assured that there's probably a solution

But enjoy the game in its original form! I wish you luck and if you have any problems, don't hesitate to drop by.
-PPP

[Son of Imoen]

You'll probably want to play right now without going through even more hassle, now that you've got it running, but if you'll ever try to re-install Easy Tutu, and got it here it should work with a non-US version as well. What you need to install is: - BG1->custom install->put a check with all listed parts,
- BG TOTSC->all parts as well,
- TOTSC patch (from Sorceror's.net, make sure you have the correct version),
- BG2 full install,
- TOB,
- TOB patch (from Sorceror's.net, the correct version as well).

Do NOT install anything else before installing Tutu. Applying Baldurdash before installing Tutu is probably what caused the wrong version error, or you might have gotten the wrong patch(es).


From memory, the way getting unmodded BG1 working is:
install BG1->custom install>check all parts (thus making it a full install), wait for intro movies to end, decline to register (it will try to dial-in - using the phone line way back before ADSL was invented - to no longer existing support),
install TOTSC, again wait for intro movies to end,
install the proper TOTSC patch,
start the game with DVD 1 in the tray, start a game and SAVE,
next time you start you will have to use the TOTSC-disc=CD6.

Check if your CD is damaged or corrupt, by comparing the size of the files with ussnorway's info. If you're CD was not damaged, problems might (as in: maybe) also have been caused by CTR-ALT-DEL-ing your way out of the intro movies, or not saving the game after first start-up. At least, the way I describe is the way I always get BG 1 working.

[Krytuun]

Thanks a lot for the extensive info. It indeed might've been that EasyTuTu clashed with either Baldurdash or weiDU (no idea why the EasyTuTu page at Socerers.net told me to install that one prior to EayTuTu, though, makes no sense to me). Yesterday someone told me that I shouldn't need to install Baldurdash or any patches anyway, since my compilation set already contains all of those... I'm hesitant to believe him, especially after you guys telling me that I do need those patches.

Anyway, I'll try Son of Imoen's steps on my boyfriend's computer first, see how that goes. If it works, then I can always move the saves on my own computer to a safe location and do the same thing there. I mean, I don't mind crappy graphics at all, but if I can get better ones then I'm not going to decline.

And you're probably spot on with the 'not saving the game after first start-up'; that's exactly what I had done. Didn't know it could mess up a game this much.

[ussnorway]

As a reference this is my tutu... the main thing is to do complete (custom with all boxes ticked) installs.

Folders;
BG1 folder = E:\\Games\\Baldur's Gate
BG2 folder = E:\\Games\\BGII - SoA
TUTU setup folder = E:\\Temp
TUTU game folder = E:\\Games\\BaldursGateTutu

EasyTUTU Set up list
The order is;.
A fresh install of BG_TOTSC_1 (Complete)
BG1TOSCGameTextUpdate11
BG2 (Complete)
BG2 ToB (Complete)
bg2tob_26498_eng
reboot system
run BGConfig

EasyTutu_ToB
Test setup i.e. briefly run the game.
EasyTutuDegreenifier-v4 (always the first)

Whatever other mods you like but as a rule of thumb you can't add two mods that do the same thing i.e. romance with Jaheira.

randomiser (always at the back i.e after the other mods)
TutuGUIv18 is always last!

Modifié par ussnorway, 17 juin 2011 - 12:45 .

[Gate70]

As PicklePepperPiper mentions, don't install to your program files directory (Vista and Windows 7 start copying the ini files and save files elsewhere so it is easier to use a folder like c:\\games instead). I've seen instances where the cloned file gets out of step and cd6 can't be found as a result.

[Krytuun]

After quite a busy week I finally got round to messing with this again, but I'm encountering a few blips. So some questions:

- I really liked the no cd crack that I had installed initially, especially because I travel between 2 homes a lot and don't fancy dragging the game along every time. However, when I tried to use the crack it ruined my whole game and made it unplayable. When in the list should I use the crack? And which file should I replace if it's done after EasyTuTu?

- should I opt for the space saver version of EasyTuTu? I did so the first time round, but for a first-time user things got quite confusing - especially when afterwards I tried to run that no cd crack. Is it wise to go for space saver, or is it better to just leave the other folders untouched?

- EasyTuTu's main page has a hotfixes file, last updated this month. Initially I had run that one as well, but it's not in USSNorway's list - does that mean I should steer clear from it, or was it simply overlooked in the list?

Sorry for the silly questions, but having no experience with this game (let alone modding it) I feel a bit lost with all these modifications.

[Gate70]

The moderators may well get unhappy about mentioning no cd on official forums, and EasyTutu would probably fall foul of it anyway.

Use the space-saver if your hard disk is filling up rapidly.

After you install BG/TotSC/TotSC patch to somewhere other than the program files folder I would advise checking the contents of the BALDUR.INI file to see where it thinks it should look for disks -6 just in case it has glitched.

CD1:=E\\CD1\\ (etc)

Once you have that working (start a game, save it, quit the game then start BG again and load the game to prove it), do the same for BG2. When that is working move on to EasyTutu and you should have an easy install and trouble-free run. I wouldn't even bother with the de-greenifier or anything else for your first run (although a mod to increase missile weapon stacks makes life a lot easier).

Modifié par Gate70, 25 juin 2011 - 08:44 .

[Kevin Lynch]

Gate70 is right: discussing cracks of any copy protection on official company forums can get your account banned. Please don't.

[ussnorway]

Krytuun wrote...

- I really liked the no cd crack that I had installed initially, especially because I travel between 2 homes a lot and don't fancy dragging the game along every time. However, when I tried to use the crack it ruined my whole game and made it unplayable. When in the list should I use the crack? And which file should I replace if it's done after EasyTuTu?

I said 1 OR the other you can't have both... and I stand by Tutu being the better option.

Krytuun wrote...
- should I opt for the space saver version of EasyTuTu? I did so the first time round, but for a first-time user things got quite confusing - especially when afterwards I tried to run that no cd crack. Is it wise to go for space saver, or is it better to just leave the other folders untouched?

Full install is better!

Krytuun wrote...
- EasyTuTu's main page has a hotfixes file, last updated this month. Initially I had run that one as well, but it's not in USSNorway's list - does that mean I should steer clear from it, or was it simply overlooked in the list?

You don't NEED it but if you do want it then by all means add it into the spot I indicated  i.e. after degreenizer and before rendomizer.

Krytuun wrote...
Sorry for the silly questions, but having no experience with this game (let alone modding it) I feel a bit lost with all these modifications.

NP mate that's what this forum is for...
p.s.
I know times are touth but look at;
Download BG1 for $10.
Download BG2 for $10.
no disc needed!

Modifié par ussnorway, 25 juin 2011 - 05:12 .