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[Creidim77]

You know what I've been doing instead of being frustrated?

Playing DA



I think it needs to change, but given the certification process, and the length of time/money it takes, I think any change in the save file's 'Copy Protection' status, will be something that slips into the changelog along with more pressing issues being patched all at once in a title update.



Cross your fingers, if Return to Ostagar is ready for 'Holiday Season 09' a lot of games seem to get a title update to work with the DLC, and its a good time to stuff in extra fixes

[technole]

I noticed this thread is full of misconceptions. You can't earn trophies on a game save that you yourself did not create. The PSN ID of the person that created the save file is the only one that can continue to earn trophies. If you used a save file from a someone else for any other game, and expect to earn a trophy with it you will get a "you did not earn a trophy" notification.



But since BioWare is new to the PS3, they should chat with Criterion Games, another EA company. Currently they manage to keep the Burnout Paradise save file unlocked and maintain an in-game statistic website. In fact their website has a utility to upload your save data to find missing smashes and other items. I'm on the side of those that there should not be a save lock. Other companies like Capcom have actually patched their game to remove it because of massive requests.



So please Bioware, let us backup our files on-demand.

[TurismoM3]

technole wrote...

So please Bioware, let us backup our files on-demand.

+1 - I'd like to back up my saves.

[fooly1cooly]

I've had to upgrade my 60Gb PS3 to the newer line and have put in a good 45hours into this game. Now that I can't cross my saves over I'm honestly too frustrated to replay it all over again. I *was* really excited about Awakening and Mass Effect 2 but I'm not going to spend a dime on any future games or DLC from them until I know they aren't either a) sh!t heads or incompetent.

[Creidim77]

fooly: As I replied in the other save file thread, if you have your orig 60G still, you can hook it directly to the slim and migrate your saves over. Still leaves the saves locked (BAD) but you can move it over.

[thezipsteruk]

I am absolutely gutted and angry at the same time. I invested so many hours in this game and according to friends was very near to the ending! only to be cursed by my ps3 going pop! no skin off my nose i thought, I back up religously!! how foolish was I! as much as I would love to play the end of the game NO WAY am I playing it all again. you guys and EA (whoever) suck!! are these not MY game saves. bye bye EA / Bioware no way im buying your prodcts again due to your paranoid controlling regimes who cares about stats and chest thumping by cheats and hackers..give me my own saves!

[Gregatron]

My PS3 YLOD'd with DA in it. Now I can't transfer my saves to my new slim, and I also can't play the copy of Awakenings I bought without either A:) buying a new DA:origins, or B:) paying the $150.00 to have the old fat repaired and hope that I get my disc back. This is completely unreasonable and needs to be addressed. I will not buy another EA or Bioware game until something is done.

[GoodFella146]

Gregatron wrote...

My PS3 YLOD'd with DA in it. Now I can't transfer my saves to my new slim, and I also can't play the copy of Awakenings I bought without either A:) buying a new DA:origins, or B:) paying the $150.00 to have the old fat repaired and hope that I get my disc back. This is completely unreasonable and needs to be addressed. I will not buy another EA or Bioware game until something is done.

My PS3 has got the YLOD as well with my many, many Dragon Age saves on it.  I wanted to back them up even before I even heard of the YLOD but couldn't.  Needless to say I was pissed when I got the YLOD.

My advice to you is try to repair your PS3 on your own.  Check out gilksy on YLOD PS3 repair at youtube.com.  It really does work (I couldn't believe it at first).  It's not a permanent fix as your PS3 will YLOD a few weeks or months later but at least you have access to your hard drive and can play a while.  Also, in my case, I had Dragon Age stuck in the PS3 so fixing it allowed me to eject this disk as well.

I posted a link:



So, PLEASE Bioware and UNLOCK THE SAVES.  I'll need a new PS3 eventually and I would not like to lose all my hard work.  By the way, I wouldn't be buying the last 2 DLCs if I didn't have my previous saves so there is some extra motivation for you guys at Bioware!!

[Red Bull Racer]

I am begging you please, patch this so we can backup our saves or at least let us upload them to Bioware website or something. I backup all my saves but this is the only game I can't backup and my PS3 broke with the YLOD and I would have brought a new PS3 but had to pay £50 to get this broken one fixed, simply so I could play my Dragon Age!



There is no way I want to lose my save, especially with the dlc and Dragon Age 2 carrying stuff over from this first game. Of all my games Dragon Age is the one game you need a backup of your save for, it's really upsetting that these saves are locked when PS3s have a habit of breaking!



Please, if nothing else, don't lock the saves in Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2! I have backups of my xbox 360 Mass Effect saves, why did you lock the Dragon Age PS3 saves? I don't understand

[Lord Gremlin]

http://www.eurogamer...view#justposted



Even Eurogamer point that character limit is a HORRID decision for an RPG.

[Gormond]

This is dire, I have a new PS3 because my original 60GB is on it's last legs and it wont let me transfer the game save to the new PS3 Slim

[Lord Gremlin]

Not even funny anymore... They know that 50% of ME2 players imported saves from ME1. Yet here we are, ignored as usual.

[Trophy_Hunter]

Looking forward to DA2 but if my ps3 breaks and I lose the save game data then I am going to be much less likely to buy DA2. I want to play it with my choices from origins imported. Im not even sure why the save games are copy protected on the PS3, its not as if people can unlock trophies by importing a save. Unless I am mistaken, you have to actually achieve it whilst playing for the trophy to unlock, surely.



I mean at the very least, if Bioware are going to be that persistent, just make it so you can only copy your saves to another system with your same PSN ID if you already have all the trophies unlocked, it would be a hell of a improvement to my current situation.

[phasesout]

I managed to save my PS3 from YLOD and then do the data transfer utility, but that took 22 hours to copy all of the 200+ GB of data off of my old console onto the new Slim with 750 GB HDD.



I wouldn't have even bothered with the data transfer utility and just manually copied all of the saves if it weren't for these locked ones (that and having to download everything again from the PS Store).

[Fexelea]

phasesout wrote...

I managed to save my PS3 from YLOD and then do the data transfer utility, but that took 22 hours to copy all of the 200+ GB of data off of my old console onto the new Slim with 750 GB HDD.

I wouldn't have even bothered with the data transfer utility and just manually copied all of the saves if it weren't for these locked ones (that and having to download everything again from the PS Store).

I was told by EA support that Dragon Age saves DO NOT COPY even using data transfer utility. Have you checked the Dragon Age files are on your new ps3 and are playable?

[trainsinrdr]

bump

[Axe99au]

Yup - bumpedy bump. There's no reason that I can fathom for having the saves locked (as, as explained in this thread and elsewhere, you can make sure that transferrable saves don't allow others to unlock trophies and encrypt 'em to prevent hacking), unless it's a lot easier to do that than code in the locking the save to the profile. But the vast majority of PS3 games don't have un-copyable saves, and



Since playing DA, I'm gaming on a new PS3. I would really like to be able to transfer over my 'world' from the original game (the old PS3 is in the lounge, acting as a casual games/blu-ray player/downloadable video store/general media hub), but as it stands, as far as I'm aware, there's no way to do this. I'm still pumped for DA2, but a little less so now.



Oh - and I also had to start playing DA from scratch after a YLOD incident as well - because unlike all my other saves which are regularly backed up, DA's wasn't. But that's the past now.

[technole]

Fexelea wrote...

phasesout wrote...

I managed to save my PS3 from YLOD and then do the data transfer utility, but that took 22 hours to copy all of the 200+ GB of data off of my old console onto the new Slim with 750 GB HDD.

I wouldn't have even bothered with the data transfer utility and just manually copied all of the saves if it weren't for these locked ones (that and having to download everything again from the PS Store).

I was told by EA support that Dragon Age saves DO NOT COPY even using data transfer utility. Have you checked the Dragon Age files are on your new ps3 and are playable?

To elaborate on the data transfer utility, locked game saves like Dragon Age will be copy to the new PS3, but the save WILL be deleted/removed from the old PS3.

[zachtheskater]

/signed... again



My PS3 just got YLOD so I have now lost all of my Dragon Age Saves. I had over 100 hours in Origins on one of my saves and I don't know how many in my other Origin saves but now its all gone. I also was just about to beat Awakening, I was like on the last level but now that save is gone as well. It's a shame I have already bought so much of the DLC for this game because if I had known this would happen I would have never spent my money and until Bioware unlocks these saves I will never purchase any of the remaining DLC for this game or any of their other games. I will also NOT be purchasing Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age 2 because of this. I am very pissed off and until Bioware unlocks their saves they have lost a customer and supporter.

[volcom82]

Again, I agree (as I said in the other post complaining about this). This is, in loss of abetter words just plain stupid. You should care about what your paying consumers wants - especially when it concerns backing up something you have put *a lot* of time into.

[NwK74]

I also had to replay Dragon Age again because my fat PS3 got YLOD. I wish Bioware would remove the save game copy protection so we can backup our save game files.

[Resonaire]

So guess what... I'm 100+ hours in Dragon Age Origins and my Ps3 got the YLOD. I was lucky enough to get it fixed and learned to back up regularly to avoid any game save data loss, and now to my dismay, I find out Game saves are sometimes locked... WTH!?.... i understand you're trying to block cheaters and hackers on the PSN network, but BioWare, You're the publisher, and within your game coding you've chosen to protect virtual "dog treats" for gamers (trophies), over the ONLY real part of a game that is our property, our own self-generated-under-no-compensation-of-any-kind game SAVES! I'm aware you had to make a decision on this issue, but I'm here to tell you very simply you've made the Wrong Choice.

I've been in marketing for years now, and when a consumer finds such horrendous dissatisfaction from your products, it won't matter how many new DLC, trophies, or marketing strategies you implement afterwards, if you don't address the crucial variable, you won't get a dime from your clients.

And true to my point as a dissatisfied customer, I'm never buying any game again that locks their game saves. It's extremely simple to me and I am baffled as to how you won't or can't see this: Let me think, should I prevent hackers from getting virtual-meaningless trophies cheaply?, or should I allow my consumers to back up their rightfully owned game save files, to which they input 50+ hours of their life in order to advance or finish a story/game/experience.....

In any case I'm guessing no 30+ dlls of DA:O-DLC nor 60+ bucks for DA 2 come march for you BioWare.



Btw, isn't it Great Final Fantasy XIII allowed me to continue my game from where I left off?

[Red Bull Racer]

I am currently replaying, and trying to recreate my original Dragon Age character/world. I lost a 65+ hr save last year and recently bought the Ultimate edition so that I have a save to import for Dragon Age 2.



It's such a shame that this save is copy protected, if nothing else, I hope the Dragon Age 2 saves are not copy protected. But, why has Bioware not at least given a reply to this issue? If it's something that for whatever reason can't be fixed, I wish they at least could say so that we could kind of move on.



I hear cloud based saving is coming to PS3 soon, I hope that Bioware enable this feature for all their games. The only reason it hurts so much, is that Bioware make the best games, that you invest hrs and hrs in, and then allow you to import your saves across games, meaning the Bioware saves are potentially your most precious saves.



So when your system breaks and you lost the save, it hurts! I really hope they can patch this in, GT5 removed the copy protection within weeks of the game coming out, so it can be done. Please Bioware, let us backup these important saves!

[justiceforusall]

so that's why I keep seeing "you did not earn a trophy." I just figured I was doing something wrong. like not completing fast enough or something.

crap.  Guess I'll just play through the game all over again.

[starlanceleo]

Backing up and restoring data to a new hardrive doesnt work. I had a save file just prior to fighting the archdemon, and I decided to get the ultimate version. I installed all the dlc and return to ostagar didnt register. That was fine I kept playing, only to find my saves and character profile became corrupted. Well that annoyed me to no end, but I decided to restart even after putting 60+ hours into it. I had to do a harddrive back up and restore to a new hard drive and now save games are copy protected.

Ive been a fan of bioware since the original neverwinter nights series, and ive played and enjoyed most of their games since then... It's a few more days to the release of DA2 and somehow I have to replay it all again when I just invested about 22 hours on the second character. Im wondering if I should even buy my collectors version I pre ordered. lol funny thing is I actually work in a games store, maybe I should suggest my customers actually try the great selection of games already available out there.

It's the little things that add up, that makes game developers lose customers. With the number of quality games coming out these days its important to keep the customers you already have. Familes have a limited budget, and games can be costly. So it is important their dollars go to bioware/EA not others right?

I dont think this post will be read by the people who actually make the decisions like unlocking copy protected save files, so this plea will probably fall on deaf ears. However can you lose even more loyal cutomers in a competive games market? We can always spend our money elsewhere.

I'd like to think that our opinions do matter. I'm not the only one with this issue, and this thread is about a year old, it would be nice if we had answers from the people who decided on the copy protection why it is so.

Do you think our opinions dont matter?