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 And everything and anything they've done? Apologies if this has been asked before :( But i was talking to my friend about the Reapers in general and he made the point of just how did they do it? I mean...how can sometthing so big perform manual labor? Are indoctrinated husks capable of creating things as elobrate as these without messing up? Is the Reaper squid like form just like a "shell"? Are they capable taking that "shell" off so they can be more mobile? I mean some of the smaller areas of the Citadel there's no way they could fit there, let alone go about construction work.

One thing i noticed about the eapers from the ME3 video is, walking on their legs they must have impecable balance to be able to actually walk like that

Once again apologies if this has been asked before.

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How did the Reapers make themselves? They are synthetic.

Well, this is how it works. It's either the Protoreapers who created all these stuff, or a secondary maintenance race, just like the Keepers and the Collectors.

It would be cool if they went Lovecraft-style and make the Reapers, Cthulhu v2, though.

Modifié par Phaedon, 08 juin 2011 - 09:30 .


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I have to agree with Phaedon here. It's almost certain that, either A) the Reapers' creator species were responsible for the creation of the relays and the Citadel; or B) the Reapers utilized available species to help build these superstructures.

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This is an issue I really want to see resolved. I need to know who created the Reapers, they are as Phaedon said synthetic so someone had to put together the building blocks. I'd also like to know how old the oldest Reaper is and exactly how their systems work. The idiots that built them certainly have a lot to answer for for letting them off the leash.

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It is very likely that the origins of the Reapers will be divulged in ME3. Where they came from? Who built them? What happened to them? Can they be defeated? And so on and so fourth.
Lets just hope that the "Creators" are not some Mystical Beings of Ascension that aid you in the fight, ala Stargate.

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They come in different sizes. What's to say there aren't engineer Reapers, who build and repair mass relays, or the other Reapers themselves? The Collectors could not have been the only ones responsible for the creation of new Reapers.

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My theory is, unlike the Reapers themselves, these constructs are just pure machine instead of organic and non-organic materials. How they built them, who the hell knows. They are creatures of super-advanced technology that supercedes our own. It'll be a mystery we may never find out.

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Magnets.

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Khran1505 wrote...

My theory is, unlike the Reapers themselves, these constructs are just pure machine instead of organic and non-organic materials. How they built them, who the hell knows. They are creatures of super-advanced technology that supercedes our own. It'll be a mystery we may never find out.


The relays can't be that complex. The Protheans had just about figured them out.

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Well, the Protheans were a very advanced race, though.

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It is possible that the Reapers used indoctrination to control squishy biological races to do their manual labor, mowing of lawns & painting of fences for them.

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Phaedon wrote...

Well, the Protheans were a very advanced race, though.


True enough, but it does show the relays can be reverse engineered. They're complex, highly advanced, but not unfathomable. 

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One must not forget about these little buddies:
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marshalleck wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Well, the Protheans were a very advanced race, though.


True enough, but it does show the relays can be reverse engineered. They're complex, highly advanced, but not unfathomable. 

What does unfathomable mean. Any device, no matter how complex it is should be able to be replicated, if you have the knowledge to do so.

Modifié par Phaedon, 08 juin 2011 - 09:58 .


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Omni-tools.

Reaper omni-tools.

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I think by unfathomable, he means that acquiring the knowledge to reverse engineer would be impossible.

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kaiki01 wrote...

I think by unfathomable, he means that acquiring the knowledge to reverse engineer would be impossible.

It shouldn't be. If one race is advanced enough to be able to create it in the first place, then another race can become eventually advanced enough to replicate it.

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My theory as to how the Reapers were created is a fairly simple one. An ancient race became obsessed with cybernetics as they reached what they perceived to be an evolutionary plateau. They began incorporating cybernetics into every facet of their bodies and minds. They eventually replaced all of their organic systems/functions and became a machine race. They could no longer breed but could replicate themselves a la Geth. They became so convinced that inorganic life was the final step of evolution that they dedicated themselves to making inorganic lifeforms absolutely dominant and making all organic life inorganic. They created the relays and the citadel and either created the Reapers to achieve their goal or turned themselves into the Reapers.

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BasilKarlo wrote...

My theory as to how the Reapers were created is a fairly simple one. An ancient race became obsessed with cybernetics as they reached what they perceived to be an evolutionary plateau. They began incorporating cybernetics into every facet of their bodies and minds. They eventually replaced all of their organic systems/functions and became a machine race. They could no longer breed but could replicate themselves a la Geth. They became so convinced that inorganic life was the final step of evolution that they dedicated themselves to making inorganic lifeforms absolutely dominant and making all organic life inorganic. They created the relays and the citadel and either created the Reapers to achieve their goal or turned themselves into the Reapers.

If every Reaper is a la Human Reaper, then this shouldn't work. The Reapers contain races, not the other way around.

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Phaedon wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

My theory as to how the Reapers were created is a fairly simple one. An ancient race became obsessed with cybernetics as they reached what they perceived to be an evolutionary plateau. They began incorporating cybernetics into every facet of their bodies and minds. They eventually replaced all of their organic systems/functions and became a machine race. They could no longer breed but could replicate themselves a la Geth. They became so convinced that inorganic life was the final step of evolution that they dedicated themselves to making inorganic lifeforms absolutely dominant and making all organic life inorganic. They created the relays and the citadel and either created the Reapers to achieve their goal or turned themselves into the Reapers.

If every Reaper is a la Human Reaper, then this shouldn't work. The Reapers contain races, not the other way around.


NEW Reapers are made like that human Reaper. They had to start somewhere.

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Please don't make it some magical super enlightened beings or something. A moral story, sure. But no magic. Leave that to Dragon Age and Star Wars.

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Phaedon wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

I think by unfathomable, he means that acquiring the knowledge to reverse engineer would be impossible.

It shouldn't be. If one race is advanced enough to be able to create it in the first place, then another race can become eventually advanced enough to replicate it.


You can create a scenario where a race did advance to a point where the time needed to crack the tech would be longer then the lifetime of the ****** species. One the other hand your scenario may be more probable.

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Something about the Citadel and the Relays doesn't sit right with me.

As we know the Reapers have lots of plans (use relay to get to citadel, get Saren and Sovereign to help them to get to Citadel, use Arrival super relay thingo, go into galaxy manually etc.) I bet they have some more tricks up their sleeves.