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Sheepie Crusher

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 Do you this subplot will be resolved in this game?

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Wasn't it resolved in the first game when we....killed it?

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It was resolved in Mass Effect 1. The Thorian is dead. It served its purpose to to the plot right then, and helped Shepard out with the cypher. I think that's it.

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Oh,,,,you mean the OTHER Thorian subplot ^_-

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It's dead.

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Pretty sure we can file this away under "resolved". I suppose it could be a bottomless hole or maybe Cerberus went off their medication and thought it would be fun to clone one but the original Thorian is pretty much resolved... as in dead.

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Yes, the original Thorian plot has been resolved. It'd be nice for it to be brought up again, but its DONE.

The Thorian had The Cipher, that's what we needed, and now we have it.

Unless you're referring to the Feros plot line which ISN'T over yet(the colonists still being affected after the death of the Thorian).

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Hmm there is more to it, well it is hinted at in ME2 when you talk to Shiala, but you only get this if you import your save from ME1. I have also found that Shiala says different things depending on what happens. If you save everything, including that exogeni guy that wants to stop you, she says they take what was left of the Thorian and left the colony.

Still it is pretty well cleaned up. They could add more to it, but they could for any storyline in the game, just look at Xmen comics, anything or anyone can get written back into a story….

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I hope the plot will come up again in ME3. There's the whole thing with the Cipher.

I think the Thorian is a descendant of the original Reaper civilization - there are a lot of similarities between them:
-It can control the minds of others, eventually turning them into creepers (seems pretty similar to indoctrination and husks).
-It is immensely old.
-It covers miles of the planet with its tendrils, and yet was undamaged by at least one Reaper harvest. It was a major Prothean planet, and there is no way the Reapers could've missed something to large, so they must have spared it.
- It spends thousands of years in hibernation, then awake for "a few frantic centuries" of activity before resting again.
-It is essentially "a weave of tendrils" that covers much of the surface of Feros with some sensory tendrils kilometres long, though in places they are gathered into nerve bundles or neural nodes. This, to me at least, sounds like an organic equivalent of the AI network Legion says each Reaper is made of.
-It regards other intelligent life simply as potential thralls, much like the Reapers only regarding all other intelligent life as potential servants/husks.

None of that is anywhere near conclusive, but that's how I interpreted the Thorian - as a descendant of the original civilization that gave rise to the Reapers. However, the fact that it wasn't even mentioned in the PS3 comic makes me doubt I'm right, and leads me to assume it won't be mentioned in ME3.

Modifié par candidate88766, 08 juin 2011 - 11:29 .


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Shiala said that the Thorian spans miles across the planet and what we killed was a node junction point, there are supposedly other such points across the planet.


Also there are a lot of unanswered questions about it

Like:
How old it is?
What did it hope to gain by indoctrinating people?

Modifié par Sheepie Crusher, 08 juin 2011 - 11:33 .


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Doubtful. They do seem to be sweeping Feros under the rug quite a bit. I mean the comic doesn't even mention it, 'cause its not like anything important happened there. You know, apart from the whole Prothean Cipher thing, that set Shep apart from the rest of the galaxy, which has also seemingly been swept under the rug.

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1. Old
2. Survival

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candidate88766 wrote...
However, the fact that it wasn't even mentioned in the PS3 comic makes me doubt I'm right, and leads me to assume it won't be mentioned in ME3.


^IF Bioware had any major plots to resolve, you'd think they'd have mentioned Feros in the comic. Apparently anything on Feros isn't important enough to warrant mentioning, so I'm pretty sure that means the Thorian is in fact, dead. The colonists could still have complications, but that's a side quest at most.

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We know the second question, Sheepie.

It was said in ME1 that the colonists were tools for the Thorian. If the Thorian wanted something done, it got them to do it(like protect it). As far as turning some into outright thralls(Thorian Creepers) they also held a purpose, again for protection. Probably other things.

Point is, thralls are tools. Carefully looked after tools.

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SennenScale wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...
However, the fact that it wasn't even mentioned in the PS3 comic makes me doubt I'm right, and leads me to assume it won't be mentioned in ME3.


^IF Bioware had any major plots to resolve, you'd think they'd have mentioned Feros in the comic. Apparently anything on Feros isn't important enough to warrant mentioning, so I'm pretty sure that means the Thorian is in fact, dead. The colonists could still have complications, but that's a side quest at most.


Shiala confirms in ME2 that it is definetely dead.

I'm just wondering whether any of the mystery around it will be revealed. Perhaps it'll be a payoff for fans since the first game. Something that won't mean much to the newcomers, but reveals a little something extra about the Mass Effect universe for long time fans. 

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candidate88766 wrote...

SennenScale wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...
However, the fact that it wasn't even mentioned in the PS3 comic makes me doubt I'm right, and leads me to assume it won't be mentioned in ME3.


^IF Bioware had any major plots to resolve, you'd think they'd have mentioned Feros in the comic. Apparently anything on Feros isn't important enough to warrant mentioning, so I'm pretty sure that means the Thorian is in fact, dead. The colonists could still have complications, but that's a side quest at most.


Shiala confirms in ME2 that it is definetely dead.

I'm just wondering whether any of the mystery around it will be revealed. Perhaps it'll be a payoff for fans since the first game. Something that won't mean much to the newcomers, but reveals a little something extra about the Mass Effect universe for long time fans. 


yes but shiala was green again also which suggests to me that it was the thorian version of her instead of her herself. the reason is that when they got her out of the bubble she was blue, but when she came out of the thorian before she was green. she also could have lied, all the colonists (except the strong minded ones) lied to sherpard to protect the thorian. just sayin...

I am hoping and expecting a thorian explantation and possibly help in me3 because it can unindocrinate, that may be useful.

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No damage was actually done to the central nerve bundle - it just fell into a hole when the smaller junctions were severed. No reason it couldn't reconnect once it landed. Sure, that might take months or years - but the Thorian doesn't actually have to be dead.

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no it has been solved, we even got an update on the colonists in me2

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candidate88766 wrote...

I hope the plot will come up again in ME3. There's the whole thing with the Cipher.

I think the Thorian is a descendant of the original Reaper civilization - there are a lot of similarities between them:
-It can control the minds of others, eventually turning them into creepers (seems pretty similar to indoctrination and husks).
-It is immensely old.
-It covers miles of the planet with its tendrils, and yet was undamaged by at least one Reaper harvest. It was a major Prothean planet, and there is no way the Reapers could've missed something to large, so they must have spared it.
- It spends thousands of years in hibernation, then awake for "a few frantic centuries" of activity before resting again.
-It is essentially "a weave of tendrils" that covers much of the surface of Feros with some sensory tendrils kilometres long, though in places they are gathered into nerve bundles or neural nodes. This, to me at least, sounds like an organic equivalent of the AI network Legion says each Reaper is made of.
-It regards other intelligent life simply as potential thralls, much like the Reapers only regarding all other intelligent life as potential servants/husks.

None of that is anywhere near conclusive, but that's how I interpreted the Thorian - as a descendant of the original civilization that gave rise to the Reapers. However, the fact that it wasn't even mentioned in the PS3 comic makes me doubt I'm right, and leads me to assume it won't be mentioned in ME3.


I wrote a theory on this. It also has to do with the scene in ME2 where Legion confirms the origins of the Reapers. Billions of minds uploaded into immortal machines.

I like to see someone else has thought what I have :)

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 If the Thorian came back I think an army of Creepers would be cool to see fight an army of husks.  Other than that I don't see it being of much help, even worse if it got indoctrinated by a reaper (or brought back to life because of the reapers as the case may be).  Other than that I don't think it's dead, plants and fungi, whatever it is, are harder to kill than that.

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DLC.

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WHAT ABOUT IT?!?

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