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[MonkeyLungs]

4 player horde mode MP has been a recurring theme in the multiplayer leaks since the days of way back when the leaks started. Sounds like a possibility.

[Therefore_I_Am]

Flashlegend wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Flashlegend wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Turgen Starblazer wrote...

Don't know why people would get upset over ADDING another feature. Seems silly, and stubborn to me. If there is multiplayer cool; if not, no biggie. The continuation of the Sheppard story is my main investment in this game. But I'm welcome to more content.

the continuation of his story should be the only thing that should be focused on. MP feature would take away development time and resources when making a fullblown single player experience. Look at how big the ME2 game was in terms of locations, backstories, characters, and dialog. Now imagine all of that reduced by half or more.

lol, don't be ridiculous. I'm pretty sure a few months back the devs said ME3 is already playable, from beginning to end. Having a MP might take some resources away but the ME team knows what they're doing. And from what we've seen and heard so far, there really is no reason to believe that ME3 won't be better than its predecessors. Just adding a MP does not destroy a game. Focusing entirely on it does, and the ME team clearly isn't.

It would make the gameplay more linear no matter the scale of which it's implemented, I can tell you that much. Take away the whole galaxy map, choosing on where you want to go. This of course if they implement one of those MP devices where you have to beat the game first, so they leave all of the exploration out on release, and instead put it in as DLC.

Not quite understanding. How would it make the game more linear?.. Besides, in reality they would have a completely different team working on MP so it shouldn't even really affect the quality of the single player at all.

Because the EA suits would want players to rush through the game to get to the multiplayer content if my scenario played out... This is the state of the industry.
Above all this is Mass Effect, not Gears of War. Leave the MP out of it, and put it in a distant sequel.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 17 juin 2011 - 05:01 .

[javierabegazo]

-yawn-

[Flashlegend]

Because the EA suits would want players to rush through the game to get to the multiplayer content if my scenario played out... This is the state of the industry.
Above all this is Mass Effect, not Gears of War. Leave the MP out of it, and put it in a distant sequel.

lol, EA isn't retarded. They would never sabotage the game just so players could rush into a MP which may or may not be successful.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 17 juin 2011 - 05:21 .

[Eurhetemec]

javierabegazo wrote...

-yawn-

Yeah, well, apparently Bioware, god love 'em, want to drag this one out as long as possible, rather than just actually saying "Yeah there's an MP component, get over it!", or "For the last time, there's no MP, now shut up!"which seems bizarre to me. They're intentionally avoiding the issue, which just seems counterproductive, as there are only two possible outcomes here:

1) They do have MP, and they announce it later. Anyone who is pissed-off now will still be pissed-off then!

2) They later clarify that they don't have MP, and anyone who is excited now will be disappointed (including me).

I think the only possible reasons to hold back on the MP announcement are if they do have it, and it's in some way limited - i.e.

A) You can only play it via Origin. Like you have to set up and use Origin to play it, and they're afraid that will upset people because Origin is still new and scary.

or

 It's DLC, and they want to pretend that they didn't start working on it until ME3 was "finished", which is damn silly, because who'd even believe them, and really who even cares any more?

[SalsaDMA]

Eurhetemec wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

-yawn-

Yeah, well, apparently Bioware, god love 'em, want to drag this one out as long as possible, rather than just actually saying "Yeah there's an MP component, get over it!", or "For the last time, there's no MP, now shut up!"which seems bizarre to me. They're intentionally avoiding the issue, which just seems counterproductive, as there are only two possible outcomes here:

1) They do have MP, and they announce it later. Anyone who is pissed-off now will still be pissed-off then!

2) They later clarify that they don't have MP, and anyone who is excited now will be disappointed (including me).

I think the only possible reasons to hold back on the MP announcement are if they do have it, and it's in some way limited - i.e.

A) You can only play it via Origin. Like you have to set up and use Origin to play it, and they're afraid that will upset people because Origin is still new and scary.

or

 It's DLC, and they want to pretend that they didn't start working on it until ME3 was "finished", which is damn silly, because who'd even believe them, and really who even cares any more?

or

C) Are working their arses off on trying to make it work, but aren't sure yet if it will make the cut into the game...

[Bogsnot1]

javierabegazo wrote...

-yawn-

You may as well sticky the thread mate. You know that as soon as it disappears off the first page, someone else will start a new thread as soon as another game site/mag reports the rumour, and the arguments will begin anew.

[Remus Artega]

the rumor is spreading out like a plague...I guess it is pretty much comfirmed now that ME3 will have MP... and lot's of action...just about the right words the CoD crowd needs to hear...

[Platform626]

I say just focus on SP and once that is done and released. Work on a multiplayer DLC.

[JetsoverEverything]

Like i said before Bioware will most likely announce it at Gamescon in august.

too many of their rumors come true.

Modifié par JetsoverEverything, 17 juin 2011 - 06:35 .

[Cancer Puppet]

As long as MP is developed independently of SP, i.e. by a seperate team, then I won't worry about it detracting from the main campaign. I'm all for a horde style mp element as long as that's the case.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Nobody wants multiplayer. It's going to be hard enough to fit all of the game in there as it is.

[Eurhetemec]

SalsaDMA wrote...

or

C) Are working their arses off on trying to make it work, but aren't sure yet if it will make the cut into the game...

Fair play, that is also a possibility. In fact it could be the case as WELL as A or B.

It's interesting how long this rumour has stuck around without ever being directly denied. I first heard "ME3 will have 4-player horde-type play" months and months ago, back when the hiring announcements from Bioware Montreal were made. Then I heard nothing until recently.

It is possible the old rumour just got necro'd, but the lack of denial suggests that there's some kind of MP being attempted.

Personally I hope the rumour is true in all details - that being that it's a different team doing it, it's 4-player co-op (I would also accept 2 or 3 player!), not competitive BS, and that the missions for it are entirely separate.

People worry about MP ruining a game, but when you think about games where that's happened, it's never been coop MP, it's always, always competitive MP. Coop MP can use nearly the same mechanics as the standard game, drains less resources than competitive MP, and doesn't require such a good connection, or specialized servers for fair play. It's much less of a problem.

Currently my bet is on them not announcing it because it'll be free-but-Origins-specific DLC, and they want to make a big splash later with it.

[Eurhetemec]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Nobody wants multiplayer. It's going to be hard enough to fit all of the game in there as it is.

That just isn't true. I'd like the coop MP that's been talked about. I'd prefer 3-player (like a normal ME squad), but that's the only difference. I don't want it to come at the cost of features to ME3, but if it's being done by a different team, then I don't think it will.

Competitive MP, though, ugh, if they add that, I will be disappointed in them and their judgement.

[hwf]

There've been rumors about Mass Effect getting multiplayer components added for quite some time now.

DA2 however didn't have a multiplayer component.
Modern Warfare 2 has a cooperative multiplayer component - which is not integrated into their singleplayer campagin.

Personally I'm not worried at all that you'd see a compromised singleplayer campaign, if they'd add in multiplayer.

[Durka531]

OK that's it, I just canceled my pre order of the game and I am now in a wait and see mode. If there is any co-op or multi-player mode i just won't buy it.
That is the one and only way to get a company to listen to people, by simply not buying their products or services when you are dissatisfied with them.

Modifié par Durka531, 17 juin 2011 - 07:20 .

[BeastMTL]

Actually I'm keeping my CE pre-order for now. But as soon as MP is confirmed (and all this not-denying is speaking volumes), the pre-order gets it, along with a dozen kittens!

[ME-ParaShep]

Turgen Starblazer wrote...

Don't know why people would get upset over ADDING another feature. Seems silly, and stubborn to me. If there is multiplayer cool; if not, no biggie. The continuation of the Sheppard story is my main investment in this game. But I'm welcome to more content.

It's because ME has always been SP. Multiplayer would have more content, but it would mitigate the amount of content the SP experience would have. Everyone here wants as much campaign content as possible. Adding a feature to the final game of the trilogy that conflicts with the retrospective proportions of the series itself is misleading the franchise to the wrong direction. If you make a drastic change to a game series that's already considered "perfect" by the standards that it's a HUGE blockbuster hit, then that's a risk that can be fatal to a company. Bioware knows how many people dislike multiplayer in a SP game, but I think that with ME 3 in particular, MP can work. If they ever decide to do multiplayer they can make it like Halo 3: ODST where one disc is strictly for campaign and another disc solely for MP. So 2 discs for campaign for ME 3 maybe and 1 disc for MP. That would be fine. I'm not sure how the MP success would be though.. I don't see any original style game play that could distinct ME in the MP gameplay from other 3PS.

On second thought.. I don't think MP will work.. considering the powers that classes have.. it's hard to make a balance.. With soldiers having adrenaline rush and ammo powers, adepts having their warp, pull, throw, etc, vanguards having their biotic charge attack, etc.. It's not going to be balanced if the current system is the way it is. MP won't work unless they revamp their whole gameplay, which is a waste. So by logic I think there won't be any MP at all.

And about Co-op multiplayer.. that won't work either.. The story doesn't allow for multiple "big named galactic heroes in a vast RPG-like universe.. Thinking about that idea makes me shake my head in disappointment that people actually think it can work. They're just burning air from this point on.

Modifié par ME-ParaShep, 17 juin 2011 - 07:34 .

[DocLasty]

Durka531 wrote...

OK that's it, I just canceled my pre order of the game and I am now in a wait and see mode. If there is any co-op or multi-player mode i just won't buy it.
That is the one and only way to get a company to listen to people, by simply not buying their products or services when you are dissatisfied with them.

Yeah! That's right. For instance, I bought a can of Pepsi Throwback and it tasted like ******. So I never bought it again! And now, years later...they still make the stuff because I represent the smallest possible fraction of people, apparently. But ooo, I showed them!

[Durka531]

[quote]DocLasty wrote...

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Yeah! That's right. For instance, I bought a can of Pepsi Throwback and it tasted like ******. So I never bought it again! And now, years later...they still make the stuff because I represent the smallest possible fraction of people, apparently. But ooo, I showed them!
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Ok lets go with the pepsi reference, can you point me to a store that still sells Crystal Pepsi

[Cancer Puppet]

@durka531

If you're serious about cancelling your pre-order then you're being absurd. The inclusion of multiplayer is in no way indicitive of the quality of the single player campaign. Seeing people claim how mass effect will be ruined for them because of mp is rediculous. Get over yourselves. The world doesn't revolve around you.

[battleroyale565]

Durka531 wrote...
Ok lets go with the pepsi reference, can you point me to a store that still sells Crystal Pepsi

Well it depends on if you can buy Not See Cola in stores.

[DocLasty]

[quote]Durka531 wrote...

[quote]DocLasty wrote...

[/quote]
Yeah! That's right. For instance, I bought a can of Pepsi Throwback and it tasted like ******. So I never bought it again! And now, years later...they still make the stuff because I represent the smallest possible fraction of people, apparently. But ooo, I showed them!
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Ok lets go with the pepsi reference, can you point me to a store that still sells Crystal Pepsi


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Because it was undrinkable. Nobody bought it. 

But the vast majority of people are either neutral to the idea of multiplayer or welcome it. The only people who seriously see it as a straight negative are the sort of people who would come to a message board to complain about - a very small percentage.

[Blooddrunk1004]

I don't like playing story based games with other people.
And I don't care it it's a different team, any multiplayer development spent time takes away the time they should put in SP, story, polishing and etc... All those twitters from Casey and Christina saying they are making best SP is just an excuse too hold the crowd back. I can't wait when they will release mediocre game with crappy multiplayer, just like Dead Space 2 did when it ripped off L4D versus mode.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 17 juin 2011 - 07:49 .

[DocLasty]

Think about what you're saying - if a different team is handling the MP with their own time and resources, how the hell does that take away from the time and resources of the SP team?

It's not like they split the SP team in half to work on MP, they gave the task to a different group of people.

Modifié par DocLasty, 17 juin 2011 - 07:51 .