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[Shockwave81]

There really is only one way for this to end. BioWare AND EA need to front up and confirm once and for all, whether or not there will be a MP component to Mass Effect 3. The vague answers we've been getting do NOT answer this question, we all know very well what has been happening instead.

Regardless of what they say, there will be people who aren't happy about it, but sometimes you just have to rip the band-aid off.

I'm torn between wanting to have complete faith in BioWare, and being somewhat nervous about what MP could mean for Mass Effect 3.

I don't know how it's possible for the single player game to NOT be affected in some way by the inclusion of MP - balancing, level design, story length/quality, any or all of these things could lose out, which (in my opinion) can only hurt the SP experience.

Including MP in the swan song of the most unique gaming trilogy many people have ever experienced is risky, no matter how you paint it.

I wish this would all be over!

Modifié par Shockwave81, 17 juin 2011 - 10:25 .

[slimgrin]

EA selling multiplayer is like Mcdonalds selling cheeseburgers. It will indeed increase sales, guaranteed. When did that stop Mr. Riccitiellelollelloeo...or whatever his name is?

Modifié par slimgrin, 17 juin 2011 - 10:37 .

[Shockwave81]

It's also easy to understand why people would have their doubts about anything that BioWare says, take this for instance:

http://multiplayerbl...-mass-effect-2/

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Talosred wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

I asked Christina Norman about it already via twitter

Her reply

Well, that response doesn't actually rule out multitplayer as its carefully worded. And if people really think implementing multiplayer or co-op won't divert resources from single player development, they are high. Since EA is so hell bent on taking down Call of Duty, I wouldn't doubt that's what we'll get.

Yrah but using mass effecgt to bring down CoD will be a huge mistake.

Agreed. Especially since COD might be poised to self destruct. Black Ops was officially the last COD (and FPS for that matter) that I will be buying for some time. (if ever) I'm not wasting money on a 5 hour campaign or a MP that I won't bother playing.  

[B3NGU1N]

If its in, then their might be another studio working on it. Honestly, if the studio that made ME1 an ME2 focus on single player for ME3, and then let another studio handle the MP side of it, I could see that working. Its not taking away from the single player if another studio is doing the work.

And the only type of MP would most likely be a horde style mode, which could, if done right, be pretty cool. Dont get me wrong, I dont want MP in ME3, I would rather every penny that is being spent on the game go into SP, but if both teams had differant budgets, both uneffected by each other, and SP took priority in feilds such as balancing the guns and such, then it could work.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

B3NGU1N wrote...

If its in, then their might be another studio working on it. Honestly, if the studio that made ME1 an ME2 focus on single player for ME3, and then let another studio handle the MP side of it, I could see that working. Its not taking away from the single player if another studio is doing the work.

And the only type of MP would most likely be a horde style mode, which could, if done right, be pretty cool. Dont get me wrong, I dont want MP in ME3, I would rather every penny that is being spent on the game go into SP, but if both teams had differant budgets, both uneffected by each other, and SP took priority in feilds such as balancing the guns and such, then it could work.

I'll say this again. I'm fine with those prerequisites with an important BUT. It should be optional and not integrated into the game at all. It would be a waste of money for me to buy something that I won't use. I quickly realized that I am not a MP type of guy. 

[JayhartRIC]

I don't think MP will take away from the singleplayer. If they decided to include multiplayer, I'm sure they increased the budget for the game. Especially if that is the reason for the delay. The game has been playable since last Christmas. They are polishing things now.

[In Exile]

Turgen Starblazer wrote...

Don't know why people would get upset over ADDING another feature. Seems silly, and stubborn to me. If there is multiplayer cool; if not, no biggie. The continuation of the Sheppard story is my main investment in this game. But I'm welcome to more content.

Because multiplayer is expensive. Features cost things. It's like how some people hate VO.

[In Exile]

Eurhetemec wrote..
People worry about MP ruining a game, but when you think about games where that's happened, it's never been coop MP, it's always, always competitive MP. Coop MP can use nearly the same mechanics as the standard game, drains less resources than competitive MP, and doesn't require such a good connection, or specialized servers for fair play. It's much less of a problem.

Currently my bet is on them not announcing it because it'll be free-but-Origins-specific DLC, and they want to make a big splash later with it.

I think Co-Op MP is a 100 times more likely to destroy a good game than just a tacked on horde-style MP. Co-Op MP (especially the way you want it) essentially means designing new areas, interfances, mechanics, story content and dialogue selection all to accomodate 3 players playing at the same time.

Of course, this is just what Bioware seems to have experimented with TOR. So it may yet be included. It would just be a blow toward the SP experience.

[SilentNukee]

One of my bosses told me it will have MP over a month ago, and things just keep happening to add to that. But, Priestly told me it was just a rumour in a message. So...yeah.

[Shockwave81]

I'm not sure how MP would benefit the main game - I don't want another person's help to defeat the Reapers (if that's even possible). For me, the whole thing has been about one man/woman's struggle to defend an entire galaxy. Having another (real) human's help could diminish the sense of hopelessness that underlines the Mass Effect story.

On that subject, how could you include MP in the campaign? Shepards from parallel universes coming in to help one another defeat Reapers and their cronies? Alternatively, who would want to play as Liara, Garrus, Tali etc when you only have control over their actions in combat and nothing else?

This kind of thing belongs in an MMORPG.

The only other MP possibilities are the staple options that we've all seen dozens of times before, capture the flag, horde mode etc. Unfortunately this would be a gimmick at best if included in ME3, and I don't think it will draw the huge numbers that would justify the investment - of course I'm happy to be proven wrong.

The next 8-9 months can't go fast enough.

[Bnol]

No reason to quell rumors when it gives free marketing for the game. Also, it is likely that they are actually developing some sort of MP, even if it is just some horde based DLC, that doesn't add any new art elements.

It is funny that people think that ME3 being pushed several months from their initial target meant they would spend all of that time on the single player game to be shipped. They have made plenty of these games to give an accurate estimate on when it would be done. The release push has more to do with the overall corporate release schedule and the ability to add more DLC and tie-ins as they can for the ending of the trilogy, than for more polish. There is no guarantee that they will ever get the same kind of audience for non-Shepard ME universe games and thus they will strike while the iron is hot to get everything they can out of it.

[ForumPortal]

YES!!!! please let there be multiplayer!!!!

Games like Dead Space 2 and Bioshock 2 were huge success

[ZellEpidemic]

ForumPortal wrote...

YES!!!! please let there be multiplayer!!!!

Games like Dead Space 2 and Bioshock 2 were huge success

Uhm, that's far from true. Especially with Bioshock 2 which was ridiculed for having a "tacked-on" multiplayer and a far less engaging single-player.

Modifié par ZellEpidemic, 18 juin 2011 - 06:45 .

[ForumPortal]

ZellEpidemic wrote...

ForumPortal wrote...

YES!!!! please let there be multiplayer!!!!

Games like Dead Space 2 and Bioshock 2 were huge success

Uhm, that's far from true. Especially with Bioshock 2 which was ridiculed for having a "tacked-on" multiplayer and a far less engaging single-player.

well, that's a matter of a opinion. I enjoyed the multiplayer in Bioshock 2 and hoping at least they include either co-op or standard teamdeath match

[SomeKindaEnigma]

I like how no Bioware dev has commented on this topic

[FlyingWalrus]

The only kind of multiplayer I'd support is co-op in the spirit of Splinter Cell's from Chaos Theory and Conviction. In that multiplayer co-op, the missions were a side-story that supplemented the main game. Given the BROAD series of events that are happening in the galaxy during ME3's time, this could be a very viable option. That's the sort of multiplayer that could elevate Mass Effect 3 from memorable to legendary, adding a new way to play the game with a friend as well as providing new angles from which to view the Reaper invasion and its impact on Council Space.

However, PvP would be a terrible idea for Mass Effect at this entry in the series and should be thoroughly opposed.

[wepeel_]

As long as there's no official denial, this will remain a frightening possibility. And one may indeed start to wonder why BW just won't say no, unless they are in fact implementing MP. It's not like they have had a particularly hard time with giving straight answers about non-inclusions in the past.

[Blooddrunk1004]

ForumPortal wrote...

YES!!!! please let there be multiplayer!!!!

Games like Dead Space 2 and Bioshock 2 were huge success

Both games ended up being dissapointment after the first one.
Dead Space 2 was L4D ripoff versus mode and no one plays it anymore neither Bishock 2.

[DocLasty]

Probably because they've answered the question before. A lot. It's always 'We have no definite plans at this time' or some variation thereof.

[hwf]

Do you realize how short CoD campaigns are? You can do the whole thing in a couple hours.

Call of Duty was my example of how you could have a perfect singleplayer experience that was clearly separate from the multiplayer component (both coop and other multiplayer).

Like JayhartRIC I'm not concerned that a cooperative multiplayer component to ME3'll mess up the singleplayer experience, be it in quality or in length.
If anything the N7 missions in ME2 seem to me as a near perfect concept for cooperative multiplayer rather then tacking these onto a singleplayer campaign where they feel a bit jarring due to lack of dedicated dialogue.

In fact Bioware has implemented coop multiplayer before; in one of their earliest games out there - the one that a lot of people heralded as a brilliant piece of narrative and an excellent RPG experience.
It's called Baldur's Gate.

[SalsaDMA]

Shockwave81 wrote...

On that subject, how could you include MP in the campaign? Shepards from parallel universes coming in to help one another defeat Reapers and their cronies? Alternatively, who would want to play as Liara, Garrus, Tali etc when you only have control over their actions in combat and nothing else?
 

I think playing with random strangers have messed up alot of potential for good multiplayer stuff. I remember in the old days when people had plenty of fun playing with each other despite it only being one of the players that actually progressed the story. In this case it's not much different than seeing a movie together with a friend.

Plenty of people have enjoyed the kind of multiplayer in the past that you apperantly believe to be incomprehensible with what people could enjoy.

[ForumPortal]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

ForumPortal wrote...

YES!!!! please let there be multiplayer!!!!

Games like Dead Space 2 and Bioshock 2 were huge success

Both games ended up being dissapointment after the first one.
Dead Space 2 was L4D ripoff versus mode and no one plays it anymore neither Bishock 2.

Bioshock 2 multiplayer was awesome. I spent 160 hrs playing multiplayer and brought all the DLCs that came with it. Dead Space 2 was also fun to play with friends 

[SalsaDMA]

hwf wrote...

Do you realize how short CoD campaigns are? You can do the whole thing in a couple hours.

Call of Duty was my example of how you could have a perfect singleplayer experience that was clearly separate from the multiplayer component (both coop and other multiplayer).

Like JayhartRIC I'm not concerned that a cooperative multiplayer component to ME3'll mess up the singleplayer experience, be it in quality or in length.
If anything the N7 missions in ME2 seem to me as a near perfect concept for cooperative multiplayer rather then tacking these onto a singleplayer campaign where they feel a bit jarring due to lack of dedicated dialogue.

In fact Bioware has implemented coop multiplayer before; in one of their earliest games out there - the one that a lot of people heralded as a brilliant piece of narrative and an excellent RPG experience.
It's called Baldur's Gate.

I think it's telling about so many of the current forum-fanbase that they are ignorant of previous Bioware games and mechanics used in those.

For better or worse, Bioware have been phasing out its old fanbase with... something different.