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[Commander Shep4rd]

[Someone With Mass]

You know what other game was also rumored to have multiplayer in it?

Mass Effect 2.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Someone With Mass wrote...

You know what other game was also rumored to have multiplayer in it?

Mass Effect 2.

was the posting on it this bad??

[Harris]

Here's the thing. It'll still sell. That's the absolute bottom line that people forget. Money. These threads are meaningless because they represent a very, very small percentage of worldwide sales. So 50 people claim they won't buy ME3 with Multiplayer. That's $3000 Bioware might lose. Drop in the bucket for them.

It's the last game in the trilogy. They can get away with adding multiplayer in some fashion because people have already invested in the trilogy and probably aren't likely to not play the last one, after putting in what will be 4 years when ME3 comes out.

The question isn't does ME3 need multiplayer, it's will multiplayer have a significant negative impact on sales. And I'm pretty sure it won't.

[KainrycKarr]

Harris wrote...

Here's the thing. It'll still sell. That's the absolute bottom line that people forget. Money. These threads are meaningless because they represent a very, very small percentage of worldwide sales. So 50 people claim they won't buy ME3 with Multiplayer. That's $3000 Bioware might lose. Drop in the bucket for them.

It's the last game in the trilogy. They can get away with adding multiplayer in some fashion because people have already invested in the trilogy and probably aren't likely to not play the last one, after putting in what will be 4 years when ME3 comes out.

The question isn't does ME3 need multiplayer, it's will multiplayer have a significant negative impact on sales the single-player campaign. And it probably would.

Fixed.

[SeaSquared]

Im actually open to the idea of well-done co-op in ME3, which could work possibly, would testing ofcourse but they could use what ever system they have in SWTOR for dialog and let shep use the power wheel to pause except they wouldsuggest to the squad, not order it. but I doubt that will happen.

either way there WILL be a mass effect game with multiplayer of some sort eventually so dont get upset if you want it but its not in the trilogy.

[Harris]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Harris wrote...

Here's the thing. It'll still sell. That's the absolute bottom line that people forget. Money. These threads are meaningless because they represent a very, very small percentage of worldwide sales. So 50 people claim they won't buy ME3 with Multiplayer. That's $3000 Bioware might lose. Drop in the bucket for them.

It's the last game in the trilogy. They can get away with adding multiplayer in some fashion because people have already invested in the trilogy and probably aren't likely to not play the last one, after putting in what will be 4 years when ME3 comes out.

The question isn't does ME3 need multiplayer, it's will multiplayer have a significant negative impact on sales the single-player campaign. And it probably would.

Fixed.

I don't disagree and I think multiplayer is unnecessary, but you missed the point of my post, which is about the addition impacting sales substantially, not the single player campaign.  Because frankly they think of that before what I or anyone else says on these boards most likely, because everybody cries about everything on message boards.

[emanziboy]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Harris wrote...

Here's the thing. It'll still sell. That's the absolute bottom line that people forget. Money. These threads are meaningless because they represent a very, very small percentage of worldwide sales. So 50 people claim they won't buy ME3 with Multiplayer. That's $3000 Bioware might lose. Drop in the bucket for them.

It's the last game in the trilogy. They can get away with adding multiplayer in some fashion because people have already invested in the trilogy and probably aren't likely to not play the last one, after putting in what will be 4 years when ME3 comes out.

The question isn't does ME3 need multiplayer, it's will multiplayer have a significant negative impact on sales the single-player campaign. And it probably would.

Fixed.

I fail to see how a seperate mode made by another studio is going to affect the singleplayer campaign. Bioware Edmonton, the same people who made ME1 and 2, is the studio working on the singleplayer. According to these rumors, there is a different studio working on this co-op mode, so it shouldn't really affect the singleplayer at all.

[In Exile]

Harris wrote...
The question isn't does ME3 need multiplayer, it's will multiplayer have a significant negative impact on sales. And I'm pretty sure it won't.

If DA2 showed anything, it's that a medicre implementation with absolute vitrol in terms of word-of-mouth can really tank a game. I'm sure there will be a very dedicated group of online warriors ready to grief the game into oblivion if Bioware adds features that reduce the overall quality of the game.

[PsyrenY]

All the crying over multiplayer and the swearing up and down that you won't buy ME3 if it has it makes me laugh. Your [posteriors] will be there on launch day just like mine to get your copy, whether ME3 has multiplayer or not.

Harris is right - this game is guaranteed to sell. ME1 was amazing, but ME2 was an even bigger success, so the franchise's future is secure for at least this last title. This is the one to experiment with, since everyone has a reason to go for it regardless.

[nitrog100]

I wouldn't mind a little co-op action. It could be pretty fun, depending on what it's going to be.

[javierabegazo]

Guys, please keep the image spam out please.

[PsyrenY]

In Exile wrote...

Harris wrote...
The question isn't does ME3 need multiplayer, it's will multiplayer have a significant negative impact on sales. And I'm pretty sure it won't.

If DA2 showed anything, it's that a medicre implementation with absolute vitrol in terms of word-of-mouth can really tank a game. I'm sure there will be a very dedicated group of online warriors ready to grief the game into oblivion if Bioware adds features that reduce the overall quality of the game.

And if they pull it off, expect online warriors like myself to rally to their defense.

Also, DA2 tanked? It sold over 2M copies in two weeks.

[viverravid]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Also, DA2 tanked? It sold over 2M copies in two weeks.

(getting off topic)

Nope.

They "sold-through" that many in a month. "Sold through" just means sent to stores, not purchased by gamers.

(back on topic)

Game got delayed, multiplayer rumours show up, also claims multi is being done by another studio - doesn't really sound like it will make the SP game suffer. If anything, it will improve it, as the cause for the delay was likely sorting out the MP integration, which means the SP team now has more polishing time

[Admoniter]

Optimystic_X wrote...
Game got delayed, multiplayer rumours show up, also claims multi is being done by another studio - doesn't really sound like it will make the SP game suffer. If anything, it will improve it, as the cause for the delay was likely sorting out the MP integration, which means the SP team now has more polishing time

Hypotetically if MP is included Sp will suffer unless the SP budget is completely seperate from the MP budget, and the money for the MP budget is money specifically for the MP not money reappropriated from the SP budget.


Regardless I have no intrest in ME3 MP plenty of other titles coming out that our going to sate my MP desire I doubt BW could design anything with a ME style MP component that things like UC3 or GeoW 3 can't do better. I'd rather BW play to their strengths for the end of the trilogy, than venture into the frankly unforgiving unknown territory that is MP.

[elfdwarf]

sound fun, doesn't matter if in or isn't
as long they make game
i hate fan or gamer who place judgement on games
especially dragon age 2 fan or gamer who put out negative about it.
but back to point , i think would be fun have multiplayer co-op on mass effect 3

[Lancelot Albion]

As much as I dislike the idea and hope its not true part of me believes there will be some sort of multiplayer component in ME3. I just wish they'd finally confirm or deny it cause dancing around the issue isn't exactly helping.

[78stonewobble]

I prefer a good singleplayer experience. However an action sequence (missions) co-op mode could work pretty well if it's done right.

Basically just have someone else take over eg. Garrus for highly difficult mission.

[PsyrenY]

Admoniter wrote...

Hypotetically if MP is included Sp will suffer unless the SP budget is completely seperate from the MP budget, and the money for the MP budget is money specifically for the MP not money reappropriated from the SP budget.

The devs already addressed the silly notion that every single other thing they decide to work on means hurting the single player. If there is MP it will be put in by a totally different studio and thus won't impact the SP at all. Can we drop this tired old saw now?

I'd rather BW play to their strengths for the end of the trilogy, than venture into the frankly unforgiving unknown territory that is MP.

I disagree - again, ME3 is guaranteed to sell. Now is the time to push the envelope, not wait for "Mass Effect World" to test the MP waters.

[KainrycKarr]

emanziboy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Harris wrote...

Here's the thing. It'll still sell. That's the absolute bottom line that people forget. Money. These threads are meaningless because they represent a very, very small percentage of worldwide sales. So 50 people claim they won't buy ME3 with Multiplayer. That's $3000 Bioware might lose. Drop in the bucket for them.

It's the last game in the trilogy. They can get away with adding multiplayer in some fashion because people have already invested in the trilogy and probably aren't likely to not play the last one, after putting in what will be 4 years when ME3 comes out.

The question isn't does ME3 need multiplayer, it's will multiplayer have a significant negative impact on sales the single-player campaign. And it probably would.

Fixed.

I fail to see how a seperate mode made by another studio is going to affect the singleplayer campaign. Bioware Edmonton, the same people who made ME1 and 2, is the studio working on the singleplayer. According to these rumors, there is a different studio working on this co-op mode, so it shouldn't really affect the singleplayer at all.

Because the money being used on that MP studio would be better used shoring up the SP studio, making it even better.

[BloodyTalon]

I heard this new rumor that you won't be able to complete the game unless you co-op.

I just hope if they do put it it won't take away form the story orr single play, I really can't think of a reason to want to do co-op play wiith mass effect it just be call of duty set in a sci-fi setting. -shrugs-

[Ruud333]

Talosred wrote...

I heard this new rumor that you won't be able to complete the game unless you co-op.  

Where did you hear that? 

And by complete do you mean "finish the main game" or "get all achievements/trophies"?

Anyway that is almost certainly complete and utter rubbish!  Not even Gears, which has always been designed to play as a co-op game, requires you to co-op to complete it.

[PsyrenY]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Because the money being used on that MP studio would be better used shoring up the SP studio, making it even better.

This is a simplistic, almost childish view of business. Life isn't Starcraft; You don't just divert the resources from one project to another and expect perfect allocative efficiency.

If everyone on the SP team has their assigned tasks, they are used to working with each other and have a good dynamic, you can't just keep hiring SP programmers to stuff into the office and hope that there's things for them to do.

The ME franchise is going to go multiplayer eventually. This is their best chance at a low-risk environment to iron out all the wrinkles, just like Warcraft III and Diablo II prepared Blizzard to make the world's most successful MMO. ME3 will still be seeded with all the metric-gathering bugs that ME2 had, providing the devs with useful information - things like, how many people would actually play a multiplayer ME game? How many people stuck with the MP modes months after beating the story mode twice? Questions like those will give them more data on whether a fully-multiplayer ME title will be successful (as well as what they need to do to make it successful) than any number of online polls, message boards and twitter feeds.

[Lumikki]

All I say, I don't want MP feature in ME3. After that for next Mass Effect universe based game sure, it's fine.

[BounceDK]

mass effect mmo ... I'm gonna kill a kitten.