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[Stardusk78]

In the demo/interview Casey says TIM is a major player, he is directing Cerberus against Shepard and it is up to Shepard to find out why, in the demo itself Shepard says Cerberus troopers have been indoctrinated, so basically what we all suspected, TIM and Cerberus have been indoctrinated...

To be honest I was hoping for something more interesting and less ascertainable than TIM et al. simply being indoctrinated and having them attack Shepard. I could be wrong but based on what was in the demo and what Hudson said, it seems pretty clear.

Is anyone else disappointed?


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Modifié par Stardusk78, 08 juin 2011 - 03:15 .

[Phaedon]

Wait? Where is any confirmation that TIM is indoctrinated? For all we know he made a deal with the Reapers and had his staff indoctrinated.

[Dannyboy9876]

I would like TIM to be on our side, but w/e

TIM is indoctrinated from a while back, read the comics, look at his eyes.

[Leonia]

What.

I would be disappointed if it was that easy to figure out, Casey did sort of make it seem like the mystery was a bit more complex than that.

[Ulathar]

Phaedon wrote...
For all we know he made a deal with the Reapers and had his staff indoctrinated.

That's how I understood it, aswell.

[Images]

I say he's helping the Reapers take Earth because they promised they'd pick him up more whiskey and smokes.

[LPPrince]

Wow, talk about jumping the gun and making assumptions.

Shepard says they're indoctrinated. First off, not everything he says is true. Second, there's likely more to it than that(for example, TIM's eyes being a conduit for the Reapers to see what is going on in the galaxy).

We're 9 months away from release. Before making wild guesses and calling them the truth, just WAIT a bit.

[SennenScale]

Honestly? I think it is the best route for them to go. Indoctrinated Cerberus can be interpreted as Cerberus being idiots or Cerberus being controlled against their will into serving the Reapers. Former makes them the neglectful villains many have always seen them as, and the latter makes them tragic. Serves both anti-Cerberus and pro-Cerberus people well enough, though I understand most don't see it that way.

[Withidread]

Conclusions. You're jumping to them. There's not nearly enough information to be able to say "Oh, TIM and his 20,000 close personal friends were all impaled on indoctrination spikes"

Anyone that ends up working with the Reapers could be considered indoctrinated, regardless of the actual sequence of events that puts them there.

[Stardusk78]

Phaedon wrote...

Wait? Where is any confirmation that TIM is indoctrinated? For all we know he made a deal with the Reapers and had his staff indoctrinated.

Casey said TIM is leading Cerberus, Shepard said the troopers are indoctrinated and Case then said it is up to us to find out why Cerberus is attacking him. Any other explanation makes little sense, think about it, the troopers are all indoctrinated but TIM is not? Only one possible answer...

[Fiery Phoenix]

leonia42 wrote...

What.

I would be disappointed if it was that easy to figure out, Casey did sort of make it seem like the mystery was a bit more complex than that.

This. There has to be more to it.

[Blitzkrieg0811]

Them being indoctrinated makes more sense than TIM saying "HUMANITY FTW! lol jk, I'm actually a Reaper. Youmadbro?"

[CroGamer002]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Wait? Where is any confirmation that TIM is indoctrinated? For all we know he made a deal with the Reapers and had his staff indoctrinated.

Casey said TIM is leading Cerberus, Shepard said the troopers are indoctrinated and Case then said it is up to us to find out why Cerberus is attacking him. Any other explanation makes little sense, think about it, the troopers are all indoctrinated but TIM is not? Only one possible answer...

Illusive Man made a deal with Reapers and unindoctrinated Illusive Man is more effective to Reaper maybe?

I mean Saren wasn't indoctrinated until attack of the Citadel and that wasn't even full indoctrination.
Why? More effective without indoctrination.

[javierabegazo]

[Bozorgmehr]

TIM was already working for the Reapers in ME2. The dude is even at the Collector base when you're fighting the end boss (don't know how TIM got out of there though, b/c since I spotted him peaking in, I always blew up the base. Maybe Joker is in on it too

[Robhuzz]

LPPrince wrote...

Wow, talk about jumping the gun and making assumptions.

Shepard says they're indoctrinated. First off, not everything he says is true. Second, there's likely more to it than that(for example, TIM's eyes being a conduit for the Reapers to see what is going on in the galaxy).

We're 9 months away from release. Before making wild guesses and calling them the truth, just WAIT a bit.

I agree 100%. Also in a game where the only thing that matters is stopping the reapers, Shepards response to people attacking him, rather than the reaper forces could be: "Well there's no reason to be fighting me right now since there's so much more at stake. They MUST be indoctrinated. Only explanation."

I wouldn't mind Shepard being wrong for a change..

[ronintoadin]

Para-Medic wrote...

Either T.I.M. made a deal with Reapers (very unlikely) or they just took control of Cerberus by force, which is more likely. T.I.M. probably escaped, since he's more than human I'm sure he is able to resist indoctrination. Anyway, who cares? We get to kill Cerberus and I'm fine with that. They are no better than the Reapers.

Agreed Cerberus must die for killing Kahoku.

[Leonia]

If "unveiling the mystery behind why Cerberus is working against Shepard" is such a huge selling point of the game, then why would they reveal the answer to that question in a demo 9 months out from release, especially when they have been really shy about spoilers?

Come on, think outside the box a little. If you read Retribution, you'll know that TIM has some sort of deal with Aria, presumably involving the building of an army to resist the Reapers. An army that exists outside of Cerberus. A contingency or plan B, if you will. Now the details of that alliance were never really explained but it's safe to assume TIM has "friends" outside of Cerberus that he can work with if something goes wrong (and given how many Cerberus experiments do go horribly wrong, it's a good idea to have such a back up plan).

Modifié par leonia42, 08 juin 2011 - 03:18 .

[candidate88766]

On Twitter Casey said that 'Cerberus working with the Reapers' was a simplified version of the situation for television, and the reason Cerberus is working against Shepard would remain a mystery, so we don't know for sure yet.