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[Richiebaby]

I don't know how many times I've gotten owned trying this,im playing on EASY, but there is nothing I can do against the ridiculous amount of zombies it seems to like sending at me, its me,sten,alistaire and morrigan and it doesnt matter they all just slowly get mowed down seeing as there is no time to regenerate in between spawns!

Everybody in the party is level 7, and if that isn't high enough to complete this then you shouldnt be guided to redcliffe by alistair.. Any tips? I'm going crazy not being able to progress.

[Dakkai]

Either wait till you get Wynne for heals or you can run back up the hill and because you're out of the event's range, waves will stop until you run back down again, but some would say that's "exploiting".

[Spyndel]

Do you have mages with spells like Mind Blast, ward of paralysis, force field, cone oif cold, etc? Basically, control spells...to help slow and control the flow of battle? Have you discovered the utility of Force field, both as an offensive and defensive weapon?

What's your party makeup? If you dont have a spirit healer (you could have one at 7) youre probably going to go through a lot of potions...dont be afraid to use consumables(grenades, potions, poisions, traps), now's the time. Try to have a tank use threaten and taunt, and keep most of the attacks on him, and focus on keeping him alive while other people do the damage.

Also, its most important to remove enemies from the field, so dont be shy about focus firing to get rid of targets as quickly as possible.  Dividing your damage among mulitple targets just keeps those targets around longer doing damage to you.

Or, do what I did, and make an Arcane Warrior to Solo it while everyone else hangs back.

Modifié par Spyndel, 20 novembre 2009 - 04:46 .

[BluesMan1956]

I understand that, once you move down to the villiage proper, there is one undead who kind of hides and prevents the battle from ending until you kill it/him

[Endgame13]

Dakkai wrote...

Either wait till you get Wynne for heals or you can run back up the hill and because you're out of the event's range, waves will stop until you run back down again, but some would say that's "exploiting".

I call "exploiting" being smart.

[Spyndel]

I dont think strategic retreating is exploiting, but it just means all of your blue circle allies will die. Even as an evil character, I take it as a point of pride if I can keep most of them alive.

[Gfan24]

Yeah it is pretty tough. Took me a few tries. You never mentioned what class you were? Morrigan should have mind blast so use that when you are getting over whelmed. If you are a tank, fight whoever Allistair is fighting. There are a number of times in the game where I had to switch to easy and kite them a bit to win. Usually if it's a tough battle(like the werewolves in another quest), you need to be really really careful to try and pull as few as possible. The combo of glyph of paralyze+glyph of repulsion is a life saver for a mage. No matter what type mage you are, I recomend those two spells.

[reddragon567]

I kept every single militia, guard, even the tavern keeper alive during that fight on Nightmare. Make sure you have a really high persuade and you can boost thier morale each time you talk to Murdok which seems to boost thier attack or Hp as well. Make sure you got the blacksmith to make weapons. Get Dwyn to help, I think that boost thier morale too, then theres the elf in the tavern also you can convice the tavern keeper to fight with you.

[xxkielioxx]

Dude. This is ridiculously EASY. The only issue I've ever had is that it takes waaaaaay too long. Honestly, your best bet is to keep your party on hold, and just run around and lure **** in with your PC. I, frankly, hate how much waiting there is between waves.

[gurugeorge]

I had a lot of difficulty - got wiped 5 times with my Rogue, Alistair, Morrigan and Leilana at lvl 7. On those 5 occasions I was using pulling tactics from uphill a lot (thinking that would be the sensible thing to do). Same as others say - just wave after wave, seemingly endless. For 6th time, I read somewhere else that it works better if you're in front of Chantry steps so I tried that, got whole party down in front of Chantry, and it worked - still tough (finished with 2 fallen companions), and only a few villagers survived, but it worked. Maybe it's because you don't get a "stuck zombie" that way? Didn't test it - I was just too glad to be done with the quest!

One thing I noticed, which may support the "stuck zombie" idea - on the other occasions, there was always a point where the music calmed down as if it was about to go out-of-combat, and I thought it was done, but there was no out-of-combat-ness, and then the music would start up again and more waves would start coming.  On the last occasion there was no "false out-of-combat" thingy - when it stopped, it stopped and then there was the cutscene.

Modifié par gurugeorge, 20 novembre 2009 - 06:27 .

[Sword For Hire]

I would then suggest using potions to heal yourself and others along with crowd control

if your game is bugged and somehow there is an epic zombie zerg that kills the top and runs down to flank you infront of the chapel/chantry while fighting those guys... lol wouldn't that be cool



ofcourse all the npcs would die but heh

still would be fun

[Cursek]

Have Leliana run into the thickest area of combat and use Captivating Song. This aoe stun should be enough to slow down their rampage, since they have to have a resist check so often.

[Cursek]

Spyndel wrote...

I dont think strategic retreating is exploiting, but it just means all of your blue circle allies will die. Even as an evil character, I take it as a point of pride if I can keep most of them alive.

As an evil character, if you leave while preparing for the attack, you can let the zombies destroy the town while you're out. I think that'd be delicious for an evil person too, no?

[Spyndel]

Cursek wrote...

Spyndel wrote...

I dont think strategic retreating is exploiting, but it just means all of your blue circle allies will die. Even as an evil character, I take it as a point of pride if I can keep most of them alive.

As an evil character, if you leave while preparing for the attack, you can let the zombies destroy the town while you're out. I think that'd be delicious for an evil person too, no?

Sure, if you're chaotic stupid.  If you're self-interested/diabolical evil, its clearly in your interests to curry favor and preserve resources, the better to insinutate yourself into circles of power.

Also, its worth a good chunk of XP, and I am greedy.

[Cursek]

Spyndel wrote...

Cursek wrote...

Spyndel wrote...

I dont think strategic retreating is exploiting, but it just means all of your blue circle allies will die. Even as an evil character, I take it as a point of pride if I can keep most of them alive.

As an evil character, if you leave while preparing for the attack, you can let the zombies destroy the town while you're out. I think that'd be delicious for an evil person too, no?

Sure, if you're chaotic stupid.  If you're self-interested/diabolical evil, its clearly in your interests to curry favor and preserve resources, the better to insinutate yourself into circles of power.

Also, its worth a good chunk of XP, and I am greedy.

Ah I get it! You're so evil you're good! Cleeeverr .

[dannythefool]

xxkielioxx wrote...

Dude. This is ridiculously EASY. The only issue I've ever had is that it takes waaaaaay too long. Honestly, your best bet is to keep your party on hold, and just run around and lure **** in with your PC. I, frankly, hate how much waiting there is between waves.

Yeah I thought that too until I noticed that when I do this just after restarting the game, the waves actually arrive as quickly as they're probably supposed to. If the game has been running for a long time when I get to this battle I often have to pull enemies because they refuse to charge, but if it's just been restarted, this battle is completely different for me...

[tranj84cl]

Having 2 AOE stuns helps a ton in this fight. Wynne/Morrigan with Mind Blast, or Dog with Dread Howl. Stagger them and you'll almost perma-stun the zombies.



First time I did it on Hard as a 2-Handed Warrior, I think the mayor died. Then on another playthrough as a mage (3 stuns!), no one *important* died, but the fight took about 10-15 minutes longer. It seems there is a bug where if a zombie gets stuck, then the game sends 3 or 4 times as many waves.

[likeorasgod]

lvl 7? Are you doing any of the other area missions first? I know they buff the NPC's according to your levels, but I like doing Mage tower first got get all the points to my stats, than I go do Elvish, tahn Redcliff. Tend to keep Oz last cause of the horbes. I did it a little difrent this time through, but I"m in Oz at lvl 18...alot higher than I'm normal am there and I still got alot more to go. The key I found all three goes on this area is have your healer there. Keep as many NPC's on the bottom alive as you can. Skip from your players to target and keep them on diffrent zombies...it takes them down faster. Do every thing to get all the NPC help. Up on the hill with the knights if it is going slow I last time charged past the fire and killed a horbe of spawn up there and bang it was very quick. Pluss before you finish any of these missions go to Den and return to Loathing before it's destory as you got a misison or two extra that can't be finished cause of it being destroy. The key I notice to this game about it going easy is takeing your time and doing alot of the side quest to level up more. Most people I hear haveing problems are rushing into things at lower levels...yes the NPCs are lower level, but you don't have as many usefull skills and talents just yet either.

[Bartjuhh1987]

I play on normal but it havent givven me any trouble i played with a sword shield warrior and an arcane warrior i controlled my main char and had the rest just follow their random tactics.

i cant see why your finding it hard.

[blaalindorm]

likeorasgod wrote...
Pluss before you finish any of these missions go to Den and return to Loathing before it's destory as you got a misison or two extra that can't be finished cause of it being destroy.

Is that "Dereliction of Duty" and "Scraping the Barrel"?

[EricHVela]

I was able to get through it by "cat-herding" (extreme micromanagement of my characters with the ever-confusing bizarre tactics of the NPCs and hostiles). Managed to keep all my party and NPCs alive (as well as getting all the ones that could fight to fight, like the dwarf and spy and getting some old grandpa sword [which I tried to give back, but she said to keep it], some oil, the blacksmith, a persuaded morale boost, a holy gimmick morale boost, etc.). I still say that deserves an achievement (and I still say it should be called "cat-herder'.)



I don't know how much it helped, but I had a summoned plague-spider as a 5th party member (which you can directly control just like the rest).

[Cursek]

blaalindorm wrote...

likeorasgod wrote...
Pluss before you finish any of these missions go to Den and return to Loathing before it's destory as you got a misison or two extra that can't be finished cause of it being destroy.

Is that "Dereliction of Duty" and "Scraping the Barrel"?

If you leave after finding out the town will be attacked at night, it'll be destroyed by the time you come back.

[Silvaeris Elvandar]

I used Shale (tank and dmg spec), PC - sword and board tank,, Morrigan and Leliana. Hard difficulty. Lots of micromanagement, but using two tanks and constantly taunting/stunning allowed for no casualties and I wasn't ever even close to dying. Then after the town centre waves stopped, I pressed f9 instead of f5......gotta cool down a bit

[voidcommander9111980]

guys guys its so easy ... !!!



Just use morrigan's ice aoe spells and



make the tactics of all your other members



at aggressive and scrapper or defender, depending the class



Thats all xD

[Elanareon]

Going to Redcliffe first is a trap!!! Alistair is stupid that way. Morrigan's advice was the best advice you'll get at that point go to Denerim first. LOL! Anyway i did what you did on my first playthrough and i know what you mean. What i did was i kited the zombies to the knights above and let them help me kill them. Yeah all of the villagers died but that's just how it is. Just took it as part of the story. heh