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[shepskisaac]

masseffectfan00 wrote...
If ME1 didn't come to PS3 then it won't go to the Wii U

It most likely will this Holidays, in the ME1 + ME2 Collection like God of War Collection or DAO Ultimate Edition. And then they'll just port the collection for Wii U within a year of the system's launch so they can charge full price like they did with PS3 version of ME2.

Brenon Holmes wrote...
 Ah... while that's an interesting idea, it's not happening for the initial release of ME3 .

(Don't read too much into the wording of that statement, I just don't know if there's any long-range plans for a port in the future and I'm future-proofing my statement). :happy:

Well, of course no one was thinking it could happen for ME3's initial release, Wii U won't be even out by March 2012 But within a year I totally see it coming (unless Wii U is a super-flop and just not worth bothering to port)

Modifié par IsaacShep, 06 juillet 2011 - 02:13 .

[Luigitornado]

@IsaacShep

What's this about a collector edition? And why are you so sure?

[shepskisaac]

Luigitornado wrote...

@IsaacShep

What's this about a collector edition? And why are you so sure?

Becuase it just makes sense and it's tons of extremly-easy cash for EA I can't imagine any publisher to be willing to pass on just like that. Sony pushed over 2 million copies of their GOW collection, strategically released for Holidays just a few months prior God of War 3's March 2010 release (ME3 comes out the same time of the year). EA itself already released everything-DAO package as Ultimate Edition for Holidays right before DA2's release. Such prefectly timed re-releases for major franchises sell like hotcakes, help expand the franchise's audience and provide easy access to older content for newcomers.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 06 juillet 2011 - 02:27 .

[Fredvdp]

[quote]IsaacShep wrote...

[quote]masseffectfan00 wrote...
If ME1 didn't come to PS3 then it won't go to the Wii U [/quote]
It most likely will this Holidays, in the ME1 + ME2 Collection like God of War Collection or DAO Ultimate Edition. And then they'll just port the collection for Wii U within a year of the system's launch so they can charge full price like they did with PS3 version of ME2.  [/quote]

[/quote]A lot of people seem to think that the lack of ME1 on PS3 is a legal matter.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 06 juillet 2011 - 02:35 .

[In Exile]

Fredvdp wrote...

I think the Wii U has potential. It's like the current-gen consoles but with better graphics and 1080p. It supports traditional control so it all depends on the developer if they would make it just like the 360 version or if they include touchscreen controls. Just like the Wiimote the touchscreen controller could lead to gimmicky gameplay, but competent developers have been able to use the Wiimote in a non-gimmicky way.

That controller just looks stupidly uncomfortable. The wii-mote is a totally new take on gaming, but without the motion it's essentially a controller split in two and does sit comfortably in hand. How does having a small box help?

I do see how the touchscreen could enhance the Mass Effect experience. They could put the power and weapon wheels on the controller so you don't have to pause in combat. It could also be used for improved bypass and hacking games. If it's optional, I don't see how it would be a problem.

You have to look down to see the commands (or cover up the screen) which may be way more obtrusive than just an on-screen UI.

[TheCrakFox]

It's just EA showing off their portfolio, I don't think it means anything.

[CroGamer002]

Pft-MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


Oh God, I'll regret doing that.

[blind black]

IsaacShep wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

@IsaacShep

What's this about a collector edition? And why are you so sure?

Becuase it just makes sense and it's tons of extremly-easy cash for EA I can't imagine any publisher to be willing to pass on just like that. Sony pushed over 2 million copies of their GOW collection, strategically released for Holidays just a few months prior God of War 3's March 2010 release (ME3 comes out the same time of the year). EA itself already released everything-DAO package as Ultimate Edition for Holidays right before DA2's release. Such prefectly timed re-releases for major franchises sell like hotcakes, help expand the franchise's audience and provide easy access to older content for newcomers.

but the thing is that ME1 was a coproduction between microsoft and Bioware.Microsoft still has rights to it and i doubt they will consider porting it to other consoles. 

[AT_Field]

Fredvdp wrote...

That controller just looks stupidly uncomfortable. The wii-mote is a totally new take on gaming, but without the motion it's essentially a controller split in two and does sit comfortably in hand. How does having a small box help?

I actually hear the controller feels more comfortable than it looks (I guess the shape of the underside of the controller has something to do with it), but I'm not sure so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Rockworm503]

Vanni127 wrote...

Arvuti wrote...

Vanni127 wrote...

Don't bring that abomination into this forum. The WiiU can burn...and stay clear of my Mass Effect.

Why such hate for WiiU ?

Aside from the fact that they are further gimmicking gaming? Aside from the fact that they are trying to appeal to the harcore crowd (us, more than likely) by giving us this gimmick of a console? 

Look, I loved Nintendo for many years. I grew up with them, loved the games, etc...but once they came out with the Wii...and basically decided gimmicks were more important than real games, it was the last straw. It's kind of like companies wanting audiences that they never were interested in before just to make tons of cash at the expense of their previously loved fanbase. (Can you guess who I'm talking about? Bet you can.)

And that's why I have such a firey hatred for the WiiU. Thanks for reading.

Who said you can judge a book by its cover?
I'd say the biggest selling console this generation makes the Wii more than a gimmicky oh and guess what was the only think keeping the Wii from being there for the hardcore players *gasp* third pary support what is this third party support?
sounds like Nintendo is taking us seriously if you ask me!

Modifié par Rockworm503, 06 juillet 2011 - 03:52 .

[Rockworm503]

Phaelducan wrote...

Pfft. More processing power than the 360 or the PS3, and I can have the HUD off the screen? Yes please, Wii U = the return of Nintendo GAMES and not Wii retirement home shovelware (sorry old people).

It's absurd to hate on the platform at this point. It could drag the PS3 or 360 down off it's feet and eat it's face off, Ninja Gaiden II demon-dog style.

The only hitch is if Nintendo's online service sucks, because no way am I ditching gamer score if I can't get cheevos/medals and mock my friends lame efforts to not suck at games.

All kidding aside, seriously, it's going to be a beast of a platform. Don't let the controller fool you, if ANYTHING just having the status/HUD off the screen will make for an incredibly cinematic experience.

Did you see the tech demo for Madden? It's a whole new gig.

Finally some levelling headed thinking.  People seem to act like this system is raping them... its absurd to already call this pathetic or stupid or an abomination a year before its out.  This looks promising and I for one am Excited for nintendo again!

[AngelicMachinery]

jollyorigins wrote...

If Bioware has a shred of self-respect left they will not bring their gamer-based game on a casual family console. I have spoken.

I don't see why it matters what consoles the game comes out on.  People are getting kind of weird about this.

[Rockworm503]

jollyorigins wrote...

If Bioware has a shred of self-respect left they will not bring their gamer-based game on a casual family console. I have spoken.

The complete opposite if you ask me...
Look I still remember the glory days of nintendo.  I still play my N64 quite a bit and don't get this huge hatred for them.  Its like the Wii was an affront to gaming or something when nothing can be further from the truth.  Did Nintendo put a gun to your head and threaten to kill you if you didn't buy a Wii?
NO?
then stfu they tried something different and I wish more companies would do the same.
same people complaining about this cry theres not enough innovation in games hypocrites.

[Fredvdp]

AT_Field wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

That controller just looks stupidly uncomfortable. The wii-mote is a totally new take on gaming, but without the motion it's essentially a controller split in two and does sit comfortably in hand. How does having a small box help?

I actually hear the controller feels more comfortable than it looks (I guess the shape of the underside of the controller has something to do with it), but I'm not sure so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

You have the wrong name in front of that quote. Just pointing that out since I don't share that opinion. From what I've read the controller is indeed comfortable.

In Exile wrote...

I do see
how the touchscreen could enhance the Mass Effect experience. They could
put the power and weapon wheels on the controller so you don't have to
pause in combat. It could also be used for improved bypass and hacking
games. If it's optional, I don't see how it would be a problem.

You have to look down to see the commands (or cover up the screen) which may be way more obtrusive than just an on-screen UI.

If the skill icons are big you can learn it by heart and you won't have to look down. If you're strealing the game to the controller they could just add some skills on the left and right of the screen so you're fingers aren't blocking the view.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 06 juillet 2011 - 04:15 .

[byzantine horse]

jollyorigins wrote...

If Bioware has a shred of self-respect left they will not bring their gamer-based game on a casual family console. I have spoken.

What?

Wii U is as much opposite to casual family console as Nintendo will get. Did you see that Zelda tech (as in pre-alpha) video? It will blow the other console out of the water - why is playing ME3 on a superior console bad?

[Fredvdp]

byzantine horse wrote...

jollyorigins wrote...

If Bioware has a shred of self-respect left they will not bring their gamer-based game on a casual family console. I have spoken.

What?

Wii U is as much opposite to casual family console as Nintendo will get. Did you see that Zelda tech (as in pre-alpha) video? It will blow the other console out of the water - why is playing ME3 on a superior console bad?

Are you saying a console isn't a family console when the graphics are advanced? That's not what made the Wii a family console. It's a family console because it has a lot of casual games and party titles.

But I have to disagree with jollyorigins. BioWare is making ME3 for xbox 360 which is now the console that produces the most family friendly games. All current-gen consoles are family consoles with casual games. Microsoft has made it clear the last two E3 shows that they're very much into casual titles.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 06 juillet 2011 - 04:22 .

[Sowtaaw]

what up with nintendo hate they make amazing games. Ea would kill someone to have a franchises popular as mario and Zelda.

[Gravbh]

I grew up with nintendo(still have my original NES and it still works). The wii u will suffer the same fate as the wii though. It will have loads of shovel ware, a handful of good games(first party nintendo) and a lack of good third party support. The same as not only the wii but the gamecube as well. Actually aside from Rare, that was also the same fate for the N64.

It is supposed to be about on par with the xbox 360 and ps3. Great, so when microsoft and sony release their new consoles nintendo will be a generation behind yet again, continuing the trend. I had around 20 games for both my PS1 and PS2. I have around 15 for my 360. In those respective generations I had around 5 each for the N64, Gamecube and Wii, all of which were some form of Mario, Zelda or Metroid.

Sad for me to say but Ninteno has lost me. I'm not going to buy a system of theirs for the 4th consecutive generation only to be able to count the amount of games I care to play for it on one hand.

[Gravbh]

byzantine horse wrote...

jollyorigins wrote...

If Bioware has a shred of self-respect left they will not bring their gamer-based game on a casual family console. I have spoken.

What?

Wii U is as much opposite to casual family console as Nintendo will get. Did you see that Zelda tech (as in pre-alpha) video? It will blow the other console out of the water - why is playing ME3 on a superior console bad?

Really? All the third party footage they showed were actually xbox/ps3 games. That zelda tech won't look so great when the PS4 and whatever microsoft has in store hits in a few years and the wii u is competeing with them.

Agreed that calling it a family console isn't really fair though. Microsoft has as much 'family friendly' games and features, especially with kinect.

Modifié par Gravbh, 06 juillet 2011 - 04:35 .

[Fredvdp]

The problem with Wii U will not be shovelware, at least not initially. They will have a lot of third party ports and the shovelware will be a problem once Sony and Microsoft release their new consoles.

Gravbh wrote...


Really? All the third party footage
they showed was from xbox/ps3 footage. That zelda tech won't look so
great when the PS4 and whatever microsoft has in store hits in a few
years and the wii u is competeing with them.

Not all, some of it was PC footage. It had the Fraps watermark. They didn't even bother registering Fraps.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 06 juillet 2011 - 04:35 .

[Gravbh]

Fredvdp wrote...

The problem with Wii U will not be shovelware, at least not initially. They will have a lot of third party ports and the shovelware will be a problem once Sony and Microsoft release their new consoles.

Exactly. When it is first released it will probably do pretty good. In the long term however there is no way good third party support will stick with it when it is guaranteed to be passed by it's rivals.

[Sowtaaw]

Sony and MS made some powerfull console and still lost to 2 gamecubes taped together dont be suprised if the next consoles dont focus too much on graphics.

[Gravbh]

Sowtaaw wrote...

Sony and MS made some powerfull console and still lost to 2 gamecubes taped together dont be suprised if the next consoles dont focus too much on graphics.

I wouldn't say they lost. Nintendo has already effectively abandoned the wii, whereas Sony has announced that they intend for the PS3 to have a 10 year life cycle, a la the PS2. If they follow through that means they will support the thing until 2016. Microsoft isn't any closer to releasing a new console than sony is either.

Despite all that, how many people who bought a wii were soccer moms who only have wii sports and never bought a game for it? Three people in my family fit that description. They bought it during the initial "system for non-gamers" craze.

[blind black]

Gravbh wrote...

Sowtaaw wrote...

Sony and MS made some powerfull console and still lost to 2 gamecubes taped together dont be suprised if the next consoles dont focus too much on graphics.

I wouldn't say they lost. Nintendo has already effectively abandoned the wii, whereas Sony has announced that they intend for the PS3 to have a 10 year life cycle, a la the PS2. If they follow through that means they will support the thing until 2016. Microsoft isn't any closer to releasing a new console than sony is either.

Despite all that, how many people who bought a wii were soccer moms who only have wii sports and never bought a game for it? Three people in my family fit that description. They bought it during the initial "system for non-gamers" craze.

it was also the cheapest console and people will usually go with the cheapest console espically casual gamers.