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ARustyFirePlace wrote...

BounceDK wrote...

I hate steam. Worthless bloatware.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH

AAHAHAHAHAHHAH

May I join in with you?

HAHAHAHAHA

:P


Anyway, I'd better make a constructive post.
Not sure which way to go at the moment; steam, origin, retail (if it doesn't use origin). That and the current DLC mess. Need to have BDTS and Pinnacle station as a bundle download, and all the ME2 DLC as a single download at some point, on either origin or steam, rather than having to gather them all together separately at the moment.

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Hey guys, i didn't read the entire topic, so sorry if anyone already ask this, but here it go.

I play on PC, but some games like ME i like to conect my pc on the TV.

But to do that, i need to go to another room and doing so i lose internet conection.

Will i be able to play this way ME3? I ask this because DA for exemple you need to always be online so it could recognize the DLCs.

I want to play ME3 in the biggest TV possible lol

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DiegoRaphael wrote...

Hey guys, i didn't read the entire topic, so sorry if anyone already ask this, but here it go.

I play on PC, but some games like ME i like to conect my pc on the TV.

But to do that, i need to go to another room and doing so i lose internet conection.

Will i be able to play this way ME3? I ask this because DA for exemple you need to always be online so it could recognize the DLCs.

I want to play ME3 in the biggest TV possible lol


Hmm.. For DLCs you would probably need the Cerberus Network (or whatever network we're using for ME3). The main game and non-DLC parts SHOULD be accessbile. It's either that or... yeah... :ph34r:

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I hate bioware's DLC system compared to steam anyways. I JUST WANT TO BUY THE *%&$ GAME. don't make me jump through a bunch of hoops buying points and the like to upgrade my game, just let me buy the game like steam lets me, with cash.

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No Steam, no sale. Origin is too restricted in my region and from what I've heard, an absolute mess to deal with. Direct2Drive and Impulse are only for North America and Gamers Gate is only for Europe. I guess the trilogy will only be a duology. Such a shame.

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Would be nice to read some official news on this matter. I'll buy the game when it's available on Steam but I don't want to have a retail copy nor install and use any other client like Origin. So I hope they get their **** together and start putting up their games on Steam again.

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Any news on this? About time, eh?

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Korjyan wrote...

Would be nice to read some official news on this matter. I'll buy the game when it's available on Steam but I don't want to have a retail copy nor install and use any other client like Origin. So I hope they get their **** together and start putting up their games on Steam again.


Don't count on that happening ever, bub.

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TS2Aggie wrote...

Korjyan wrote...

Would be nice to read some official news on this matter. I'll buy the game when it's available on Steam but I don't want to have a retail copy nor install and use any other client like Origin. So I hope they get their **** together and start putting up their games on Steam again.


Don't count on that happening ever, bub.

Lol, yes it will. Sooner or later, EA will reconsider. With or without the current CEO.

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No, they won't. They've invested too much time and money to get their own inferior version of Steam running and there is no chance they'll relinquish the only reason people would use it in the first place (i.e. games exclusive to the client, like Mass Effect 3). If they pulled the plug on it, it'd be like admitting they were wrong, and they're never wrong, didn't you know? :whistle:

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TS2Aggie wrote...

No, they won't. They've invested too much time and money to get their own inferior version of Steam running and there is no chance they'll relinquish the only reason people would use it in the first place (i.e. games exclusive to the client, like Mass Effect 3). If they pulled the plug on it, it'd be like admitting they were wrong, and they're never wrong, didn't you know? :whistle:

This is all about money. Don't think of EA as of a man of principle. EA does what's good for business. If that means admiting own mistakes and correcting them, believe me, they're good and ready to deal with it. They won't keep maintaining failure market strategies just because they're "EA", and that is(or must be) a bad word by definition.
A quote from an interview regarding BF3 and EA, Activision and MW3.

EA CEO John Riccitiello said...

A lot of people bought Modern Warfare more for the coffee table and didn’t play it for 2 months. There’s sort of that mass audience… they’re going to win there. The question is, ‘So, if the gamer buys our game and the mass audience buys their game, where do the two meet?’ And all I want to do, if you will, is to have them rot from the core.”

This interview took place in August, and, as you can see, MW3 is definitely not the one that's rotting here. How long do you think EA can last, living on bad predictions and arrogant actions?

Modifié par FERMi27, 02 janvier 2012 - 02:31 .


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Why EA can't release ME3 on Steam? Is this so hard to do? At least standard edition. I have 200 games on Steam. I want ME3 on Steam. It MUST be on Steam.

Modifié par GediminasM, 02 janvier 2012 - 02:59 .


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yeah I don't like the way they're splitting up my games, I got first ME retail, that later became a hassle with its limited installs etc. I got ME2 on steam, which was ok, little bit of a hassle going to this site and getting dlc from here to use in game, but not too bad.

But I really really really don't want to get ME3 on Origin (I have bf3 on origin). Origin is a broken mess. And I don't want to split up all my games (it'd be a lot more complicated when it comes to reinstalling them). Also steam has un-metered content download servers (telestraclear NZ for me), so when I download I don't burn up half of my 40gb cap downloading one game. Origin at least needs local un-metered services because I don't see how on earth I can download the digital games otherwise.

Modifié par Rogue Eagle, 02 janvier 2012 - 10:02 .


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Rogue Eagle wrote...

yeah I don't like the way they're splitting up my games, I got first ME retail, that later became a hassle with its limited installs etc. I got ME2 on steam, which was ok, little bit of a hassle going to this site and getting dlc from here to use in game, but not too bad.

But I really really really don't want to get ME3 on Origin (I have bf3 on origin). Origin is a broken mess. And I don't want to split up all my games (it'd be a lot more complicated when it comes to reinstalling them). Also steam has un-metered content download servers (telestraclear NZ for me), so when I download I don't burn up half of my 40gb cap downloading one game. Origin at least needs local un-metered services because I don't see how on earth I can download the digital games otherwise.

Use a local VPN. And who would've thought that in 2012 there could still be problems with ground-based internet traffic on the planet Earth?

Modifié par FERMi27, 02 janvier 2012 - 11:18 .


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I have most of my games on steam, and if they don't offer it on steam I will be less likely to buy it because of the inconvenience of using multiple game libraries.

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5 million concurrent users on Steam this month. Brilliant strategy EA, just brilliant.

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Rogue Eagle wrote...

yeah I don't like the way they're splitting up my games, I got first ME retail, that later became a hassle with its limited installs etc. I got ME2 on steam, which was ok, little bit of a hassle going to this site and getting dlc from here to use in game, but not too bad.

But I really really really don't want to get ME3 on Origin (I have bf3 on origin). Origin is a broken mess. And I don't want to split up all my games (it'd be a lot more complicated when it comes to reinstalling them). Also steam has un-metered content download servers (telestraclear NZ for me), so when I download I don't burn up half of my 40gb cap downloading one game. Origin at least needs local un-metered services because I don't see how on earth I can download the digital games otherwise.

I am really glad stream became unmetered for telstraclear here in NZ (especially with steams recent christmas/new years sale (I would hate to look and see how much of my monthly cap I used if it was unmetered :pinched:)), but I get the weird feeling Origin will never be unmetered (especially down here)

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GediminasM wrote...

Why EA can't release ME3 on Steam? Is this so hard to do? At least standard edition. I have 200 games on Steam. I want ME3 on Steam. It MUST be on Steam.


The big issue seems to be that Valve now requires any DLC sold for a game on Steam to be sold through Steam. Developers/Publishers can sell their DLC anywhere else they want, but it also has to be avaliable on Steam for purchase, even if it's just a code to redeem the content (like Batman Arkham City, you just get a code that you have to put into Games for Windows Live). For some reason EA is throwing a hissy fit over this, they don't want anyone else getting a cut of their PC DLC, despite the fact that Microsoft and Sony get a cut of any DLC sold through Xbox Live and PSN and you don't see them whining about that.

It's so increadbly stupid, EA is being increadbly stubborn headed and Valve is completely in the right on this one. If I buy a game on Steam I want to be able to buy any DLC for it on Steam.

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Curunen wrote...

ARustyFirePlace wrote...

BounceDK wrote...

I hate steam. Worthless bloatware.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH

AAHAHAHAHAHHAH

May I join in with you?

HAHAHAHAHA


You only laugh because you never used STEAM before 2005. Everyone else who has, all across the globe, collectively thought, "I feel you man... I feel you..."

To anyone who cares for ME3 on STEAM, who cares. Buy the PC version. (no matter where you buy it from, itll "require" Origin, fyi)

Wait, if it's anything like the Battlefield 3 situation, 3 hours... for someone to "hack" it.

Then add ME3 as a non-steam game. BF3 beta didn't even last a day before someone did this.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 04 janvier 2012 - 09:12 .


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Bluth54 wrote...

GediminasM wrote...

Why EA can't release ME3 on Steam? Is this so hard to do? At least standard edition. I have 200 games on Steam. I want ME3 on Steam. It MUST be on Steam.


The big issue seems to be that Valve now requires any DLC sold for a game on Steam to be sold through Steam. Developers/Publishers can sell their DLC anywhere else they want, but it also has to be avaliable on Steam for purchase, even if it's just a code to redeem the content (like Batman Arkham City, you just get a code that you have to put into Games for Windows Live). For some reason EA is throwing a hissy fit over this, they don't want anyone else getting a cut of their PC DLC, despite the fact that Microsoft and Sony get a cut of any DLC sold through Xbox Live and PSN and you don't see them whining about that.

It's so increadbly stupid, EA is being increadbly stubborn headed and Valve is completely in the right on this one. If I buy a game on Steam I want to be able to buy any DLC for it on Steam.


This.  EA never gave a **** about PC gaming until a year or two ago and all of a sudden they want in on the action.  There's an insurmountable amount of goodwill Valve has built up through the years.  All EA has to do is throw the stuff up on Steam but charge a better price on their own service.  They'll make money on Steam and also drive people to their service without alienating anyone.  They're such a stupid, stupid company.  It's like saying, "Nah, let's not get this game stocked in Gamestop.  We'll only stick to other places."

Origin is a truly awful piece of software.  I decided to give it a go just now because I know ME3 won't come to Steam and I'm starting to waver.

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Bluth54 wrote...

It's so increadbly stupid, EA is being increadbly stubborn headed and Valve is completely in the right on this one. If I buy a game on Steam I want to be able to buy any DLC for it on Steam.


The DLC issue is just a smokescreen. The real issue is that EA wants to be a distributor to rival Valve. Valve got here first by forcing Steam on us via Counter-Strike and Half Life 2, and EA's copying that strategy. Except they didn't account for the already existing steam user base.

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Steam only, Origin is too hostile towards customers. It's not worth it to buy numerous games and then BANG - they ban your accounts with all games for some random reason like "stars told us" or "today is Krishna's birthday". Or someone insulted you at forums.

Modifié par Pleasureslave, 04 janvier 2012 - 04:47 .


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I can't agree with Origin as a DRM, after reading EA's terms of service.

Hell, i'd go as far as to say that BioWare should use Steamworks for their copy protection.

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Cirno wrote...

I can't agree with Origin as a DRM, after reading EA's terms of service.

Hell, i'd go as far as to say that BioWare should use Steamworks for their copy protection.

Or use nothing, since it isn't going to keep anyone from pirating it.

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Pleasureslave wrote...

Steam only, Origin is too hostile towards customers. It's not worth it to buy numerous games and then BANG - they ban your accounts with all games for some random reason like "stars told us" or "today is Krishna's birthday". Or someone insulted you at forums.


When did they ever do that?