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[marshalleck]

ShadowSplicer wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

So that was a reaper? Why was it so small?

Because a big ass Reaper dreadnought can't get people when they run into a canyon?

Remove canyon. Problem solved.

Sure, if they want to just kill everyone. Which they don't. Remember ME2?

[lazuli]

Ahglock wrote...

They were cool backdrops, but you were still in a corridor. A couple of the recent shots from the live streaming thing today though kind of look like it might have a bit more of a open level design here and there, maybe vehicle missions only.

Not to be excessively negative, but Ahglock is right.  Think of how dazzling the derrick ride in Gears of War 2 was the first time.  And then you realize there is only a tiny amount of this vast battlefield that you can actually influence.  The rest is a massive cutscene that you cannot affect in any way.

I'm all for beautiful environments and sweeping scenes of epic destruction, just give players some agency.  ME3 seems to be going in the right direction with optional points of interest that Shepard can examine (by pressing Y on the xbox).

Modifié par lazuli, 09 juin 2011 - 05:41 .

[marshalleck]

What kind of agency do you expect to have as a human soldier on foot against a 2km long sentient warship? Just curious.

[ShadowSplicer]

marshalleck wrote...

ShadowSplicer wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

So that was a reaper? Why was it so small?

Because a big ass Reaper dreadnought can't get people when they run into a canyon?

Remove canyon. Problem solved.

Sure, if they want to just kill everyone. Which they don't. Remember ME2?

Irrelevant. Death laser beams look awesome. Argument invalid.

Modifié par ShadowSplicer, 09 juin 2011 - 05:43 .

[marshalleck]

But Reaper-spiders look awesome too. And it had a laser beam, though the Normandy's bombs might have broken it.

[SaulTighsEyePatch]

Agreed with the OP. What really impressed me was the shockwave from the cruiser blowing up. See, in most games and movies, when something like that blows up, it just blows up. Its off in the distance, and just provides a purty explosion for the main characters to see.

But here, there's actually a shockwave from the explosion that takes a second or so to reach Shepard and slam him around. Physics FTW!! Great job, Bioware.

[Ahglock]

marshalleck wrote...

What kind of agency do you expect to have as a human soldier on foot against a 2km long sentient warship? Just curious.

More agency to act against there minions and plans I guess.  Hell given how innefecitve ship guns were I am not sure what I'd expect to do against a reaper in the normandy.  Your capacity to act is given some serious restraints, you almost litterally have tunnel vision on how to accomlish specifc goals.  

Eh its been 15+ years since I took philosphy so i may be misusing the term.  

[Oblivious]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Uncharted sucks. ME3 looks 10x better and funner.

We're complimenting a game for what it's accomplished. Don't start turning this into a hate thread. Can't people on these forums go past the first page before insulting someone or something?<_<

Anyways, it looks like the Reapers might just win the war. Chances are that Shepard would be too awe-struck watching them raze destruction on that city to give a damn about the war.

[TexasToast712]

Oblivious wrote...
Can't people on these forums go past the first page before insulting someone or something?<_<

Not really, no. I hated Uncharted 1/2. Hate the PS3 even more.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 09 juin 2011 - 05:52 .

[lazuli]

marshalleck wrote...

What kind of agency do you expect to have as a human soldier on foot against a 2km long sentient warship? Just curious.

A fair point.  There are certainly reasons to limit player agency.  But I just hope there is always something to do besides ogle at the scenery. 

I think what I fear is unskippable cutscenes that bleed into actual gameplay.

[Oblivious]

TexasToast712 wrote...
Not really, no. I hated Uncharted 1/2. Hate the PS3 even more.

Nobody brought the PS3 into this and nobody said you should start commenting on your dislike of a series. Remember that these games are rated "M-Mature" so start acting like it and praise Mass Effect for its accomplishments in a mature manner without bringing others down. I'm gonna leave before more fanboys come here.

Modifié par Oblivious, 09 juin 2011 - 05:55 .

[marshalleck]

Ahglock wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

What kind of agency do you expect to have as a human soldier on foot against a 2km long sentient warship? Just curious.

More agency to act against there minions and plans I guess.  Hell given how innefecitve ship guns were I am not sure what I'd expect to do against a reaper in the normandy.  Your capacity to act is given some serious restraints, you almost litterally have tunnel vision on how to accomlish specifc goals.  

Eh its been 15+ years since I took philosphy so i may be misusing the term.  

Well I think you're using the term appropriately, I just think this is one of those situations where Shepard has to focus primarily on not dying horribly so (s)he can then begin to concern him or herself with devising a plan to stop the Reapers. It seems like the Reaper attack sequence on Earth is all about making Shepard and the player feel powerless, bordering on hopeless in the face of unbelievable devastation. Anderson voices this exactly when he asks "how do you fight something so powerful?" to which Shepard responds "I don't know"...just before an Alliance cruiser is decimated in two shots, unleashing a shockwave that sends Shepard careening. It's all set up very specifically to drive the point home that these events are--for the moment--beyond Shepard's control. Pretty much all he can hope to do is survive.

Modifié par marshalleck, 09 juin 2011 - 05:59 .

[TexasToast712]

Oblivious wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
Not really, no. I hated Uncharted 1/2. Hate the PS3 even more.

Nobody brought the PS3 into this and nobody said you should start commenting on your dislike of a series. Remember that these games are rated "M-Mature" so start acting like it and praise Mass Effect for its accomplishments in a mature manner without bringing others down. I'm gonna leave before more fanboys come here.

Uncharted - PS3 garbage exclusive

I dont like it when people compare a great game like Mass Effect to garbage.
Done with the thread.