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[tonnactus]

So after high heels in combat, gas masks in hostile enviroment and platin from gas planets we finally get this...

Guess all the little science this game had is gone now and only the fiction stayed.

[GunMoth]

What am I missing?

[Eradyn]

...wat.

[tonnactus]

GunMoth wrote...

What am I missing?

There are some multi-race hybrid creatures
-such as the Cannibal (a human-batarian-reaper hybrid), who "eats"
energy from enemy corpses or a turian-krogan hybrid- created by the
Reapers [PS3M]

http://social.biowar...m/2035423/blog/

[ReallyRue]

Mind explaining what the problem with that is? Not sure I get it.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 08 juin 2011 - 09:06 .

[BlackwindTheCommander]

tonnactus wrote...

So after high heels in combat, gas masks in hostile enviroment and platin from gas planets we finally get this...

Guess all the little science this game had is gone now and only the fiction stayed.

You seem to be missing the fact that this is not a "natural" hybrid. There was no turian/krogan breeding involved. This is a monster created by the Reapers. Using advanced technologies they create Frankenstein-esque combinations of Species.

It's like grafting a bear arm onto a man and then putting prosthetic and cybernetic tech into to let him use it.

[Eradyn]

tonnactus wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

What am I missing?

There are some multi-race hybrid creatures
-such as the Cannibal (a human-batarian-reaper hybrid), who "eats"
energy from enemy corpses or a turian-krogan hybrid- created by the
Reapers [PS3M]

http://social.biowar...m/2035423/blog/

Oh! Phew, I was about to start twitching. Okay, this is for husks, right? In ME2, some husks were made from multiple corpses fused together. This must mean turian and krogan corpses fused together into a new, more powerful husk (than one made from a single corpse). If this is the case, I don't see any reason to get up in arms over it.

[Rake21]

Considering the Reapers reproduce by liquifying millions of sentient beings and binding the resulting mush to a robotic shell, thus creating an abomination against all that is good and holy; I don't think disturbing cybernetic monstrocities forged from living creatures is outside of what they're capable of.

[tonnactus]

BlackwindTheCommander wrote...


You seem to be missing the fact that this is not a "natural" hybrid.

It doesnt matter.Aside from the fact that those hybrids miss any purpose anyway(why make hybrids,not "pure" husk of the used species),the different way their dna works would make this completly impossible.

Retarded is an understatement if this really turn out to be included in the game.

Modifié par tonnactus, 08 juin 2011 - 09:15 .

[tonnactus]

Eradyn wrote...


Oh! Phew, I was about to start twitching. Okay, this is for husks, right? In ME2, some husks were made from multiple corpses fused together. This must mean turian and krogan corpses fused together into a new, more powerful husk (than one made from a single corpse). If this is the case, I don't see any reason to get up in arms over it.

All of those where humanoid husks.(made from humans)

[jamesp81]

tonnactus wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

What am I missing?

There are some multi-race hybrid creatures
-such as the Cannibal (a human-batarian-reaper hybrid), who "eats"
energy from enemy corpses or a turian-krogan hybrid- created by the
Reapers [PS3M]

http://social.biowar...m/2035423/blog/

These appear to be husk-like creatures.  I don't see a problem.  It's not as if smoothying humans to reproduce is any more believeable anyway, and BW seems like they want to raise the creepiness factor here.  I'm alright with that.  Hell, who doesn't like a good zombie apocalypse?  Except this one also has space battles to go with it.

[Rake21]

tonnactus wrote...

Eradyn wrote...


Oh! Phew, I was about to start twitching. Okay, this is for husks, right? In ME2, some husks were made from multiple corpses fused together. This must mean turian and krogan corpses fused together into a new, more powerful husk (than one made from a single corpse). If this is the case, I don't see any reason to get up in arms over it.

All of those where humanoid husks.(made from humans)

If you were a giant-robot Cthulu looking to wipe out all life, wouldn't you want a little variety in your ground troops?  I mean, yeah, Husks a freaky, but they're about as tough as rotten wood.  Now a Krogan/Turian hybrid, a beign made from two of the sturdiest races in the galaxy, is a little more effective.

[tonnactus]

Rake21 wrote...


If you were a giant-robot Cthulu looking to wipe out all life, wouldn't you want a little variety in your ground troops? 

For sure not in this stupid way. Want the advantages of this: Use turian and krogan husks.

Modifié par tonnactus, 08 juin 2011 - 09:28 .

[Eradyn]

tonnactus wrote...

Eradyn wrote...


Oh! Phew, I was about to start twitching. Okay, this is for husks, right? In ME2, some husks were made from multiple corpses fused together. This must mean turian and krogan corpses fused together into a new, more powerful husk (than one made from a single corpse). If this is the case, I don't see any reason to get up in arms over it.

All of those where humanoid husks.(made from humans)

Er, yeah. Because humans were their target and were the only material they had. Now the battle is galactic-wide. That means more organic material for the reapers to defile. Something tells me they won't care about husk "purity" (whatever the hell that would be). They're going to make troops with what they have, and if that means fusing the corpses of turians and krogan, well, they'll do it. We're talking about them making frankenstein's monster here, not genetically engineering new and living species.

Modifié par Eradyn, 08 juin 2011 - 09:37 .

[Savber100]

...Reapers can't mess with the genetic code of other species and mash them into one sentient goo? How does this contradict the lore in any way? ;P

[Dr. rotinaj]

tonnactus wrote...

Eradyn wrote...


Oh! Phew, I was about to start twitching. Okay, this is for husks, right? In ME2, some husks were made from multiple corpses fused together. This must mean turian and krogan corpses fused together into a new, more powerful husk (than one made from a single corpse). If this is the case, I don't see any reason to get up in arms over it.

All of those where humanoid husks.(made from humans)

That's not what humanoid means. 
 
Besides, does it make a difference which species are fused together? They're husks, unnatural abominations created by the reapers. A husk made of three humans makes just as much (or just as little) sense as a Krogan-Turian one. 

Modifié par Dr. rotinaj, 08 juin 2011 - 09:42 .

[daigakuinsei]

I imagine the main issue fusing different species together is immune system rejection. "Replace by tech" (Mordin Solus) and you can probably get the things to mesh together.

[tonnactus]

Arcian wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

So after high heels in combat, gas masks in hostile enviroment and platin from gas planets we finally get this...

Guess all the little science this game had is gone now and only the fiction stayed.

You're the guy who made that "Shepard can make Tali pregnant"-thread earlier that got locked.

Yeah, hypocrisy much.

Guess you are one of those people who need irony/sarcasm tags.

Modifié par tonnactus, 08 juin 2011 - 09:50 .

[Pride Demon]

tonnactus wrote...

BlackwindTheCommander wrote...


You seem to be missing the fact that this is not a "natural" hybrid.

It doesnt matter.Aside from the fact that those hybrids miss any purpose anyway(why make hybrids,not "pure" husk of the used species),the different way their dna works would make this completly impossible.

Retarded is an understatement if this really turn out to be included in the game.

DNA is irrelevant, the process of making husks is described in the codex: all organic matter is drained from the body and replaced with synthetic tissues and cybernetics, they are not actually genetically engineered, in fact there are no more genes in there at all; DNA, chirality, blood type, etc...: all these things matter little to nothing in a husk...

You say the other husk were all made from humans but that means nothing, if DNA was a problem I'll have you know that rejection of tissues due to incompatibility happens regularly among humans too (so Scions and Pretorians would be impossible to create)...

Rake21 wrote...

If you were a giant-robot Cthulu looking to wipe out all life, wouldn't you want a little variety in your ground troops?  I mean, yeah, Husks a freaky, but they're about as tough as rotten wood.  Now a Krogan/Turian hybrid, a beign made from two of the sturdiest races in the galaxy, is a little more effective.

Yeah, they are not called "Brutes" for nothing... ;P

[tonnactus]

daigakuinsei wrote...

I imagine the main issue fusing different species together is immune system rejection.

No,its a little more then just that.Its not clear if the husks are really pure corpses.The collectors werent.(otherwise the reapers wouldnt bother to replace their digestive system with technology for example)
If husks are just corpses it didnt make sense to combine different dead flesh anyway.Technology could do this better.

Modifié par tonnactus, 08 juin 2011 - 09:57 .

[Crackseed]

Tonn, seriously? And yeah, if you'd watched the Earth demo vid, you see these Husks in action. They fit perfectly into the science fiction AND methodology of the reapers to me. Turn your enemies into abominations and unleash them back into the battlefield. You create unnerving and psychological warfare just by their presence, nevermind for gameplay it adds more variety and new tactical options.

Seriously - do I have to use *requires people with common sense* tags for my post so you actually grasp how this is more then valid in the lore and game? :-P

I apologize for the heavy handed post, but you're really being short-sighted.

[Alex06]

TBH, it just seems like the Reapers have tech that allows the merging of different DNA types. It's kind of like medicine that prevents organ rejection.