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[JadeEffect]

Someone asked a question during the live demo and Q&A about if the Reapers are only focusing on humanity.  The answer was that the reapers entered the galaxy through a batarian system, and are making their way north.

So now my question is, what system and relay?  Or is this going to be a new system added into ME3. 

[Gorskijesih]

The Batarians colonise a lot, so who knows. Could be their home sector or one that they just own.

What's interesting is that this means the Citadel and Tuchanka get hit very quickly aswell, but the Terminus Systems, including Geth Space (Rannoch), and even Asari space wont be targeted as quickly.

I'm not sure where the Turians and Salarians are placed on the map, but since we know that Palaven has fallen I guess the Turians are near the bottom aswell.

[baryonic member]

At least this confirms that the Reaper presence of Earth is just a coincidence, and they've not lost their senses completely. But I wonder why they didn't head directly to the Citadel. They could easily have overrun its defenses and taken control of the station, thereby allowing them to take control of all Mass Relays and shut them down for everyone except themselves.

[jamesp81]

I assume the Batarian system is the one you obliterated in Arrival, or one near it.

From what I can remember about the galaxy map, if starting from the system named in Arrival and moving north, it puts Earth and, I *think* the Turians first up for smoothy treatments. After that, the Salarians and the Asari get their turn.

[SKiLLYWiLLY2]

I'm pretty sure that was not the answer he gave.

He said they arrived on the galaxy map on the southern part (if you look at it like a compass) which are the Batarian systems. He then said they continued on to earth and everywhere else. Nowhere did he say they entered a Batarian system and used a relay to get to the Local Cluster/Sol.

Also, they arrive at the galaxy at the end of ME2.

Modifié par SKiLLYWiLLY2, 08 juin 2011 - 09:52 .

[jamesp81]

Gorskijesih wrote...

The Batarians colonise a lot, so who knows. Could be their home sector or one that they just own.

What's interesting is that this means the Citadel and Tuchanka get hit very quickly aswell, but the Terminus Systems, including Geth Space (Rannoch), and even Asari space wont be targeted as quickly.

I'm not sure where the Turians and Salarians are placed on the map, but since we know that Palaven has fallen I guess the Turians are near the bottom aswell.

I think the Turians are in the same quadrant of the galaxy map as the Alliance.  Remember those Turian Insignia quests in ME1?  Those were all found in the borders between the Alliance and the Terminus systems.  I think the Turians are probably humanity's neighbors, galactically speaking.

Just as well, I guess.  If the Reapers had hit the Asari and Salarians first they'd probably have folded up and collapsed a lot faster.  Fortunately, the loyal sons of Earth and Palaven are both made of tougher stuff.

[JadeEffect]

When I heard that the Reapers are targeting Earth, I thought it was a personal vendetta against Shepard. Glad to know they are just making a sweep through the galaxy. So that means the batarians where first, humans are currently being targeted.

[Forst1999]

baryonic member wrote...

At least this confirms that the Reaper presence of Earth is just a coincidence, and they've not lost their senses completely. But I wonder why they didn't head directly to the Citadel. They could easily have overrun its defenses and taken control of the station, thereby allowing them to take control of all Mass Relays and shut them down for everyone except themselves.

I don't think they can do that. Sovereign wasn't able to just control the Citadel at will, he needed Saren to infiltrate it. Maybe this time they reacted fast enough, the Citadel is closed and the Council has some control over the mass relays? That could explain why the reapers have to work their way through the galaxy. 

[jamesp81]

baryonic member wrote...

At least this confirms that the Reaper presence of Earth is just a coincidence, and they've not lost their senses completely. But I wonder why they didn't head directly to the Citadel. They could easily have overrun its defenses and taken control of the station, thereby allowing them to take control of all Mass Relays and shut them down for everyone except themselves.

That might still happen.  There's so much we don't know about the game yet.  That might be a plot arc, or C-Sec might've found a way to disable the Citadel or destroy it if it looks like it's going to fall to the Reapers.

Modifié par jamesp81, 08 juin 2011 - 09:53 .

[SKiLLYWiLLY2]

JadeEffect wrote...

When I heard that the Reapers are
targeting Earth, I thought it was a personal vendetta against Shepard.
Glad to know they are just making a sweep through the galaxy. So that
means the batarians where first, humans are currently being targeted.

Yeah, the whole galaxy is the target but presumably the reapers (due to the events of ME1 and ME2) have a special interest in humans and earth.

Modifié par SKiLLYWiLLY2, 08 juin 2011 - 09:54 .

[Darkhour]

baryonic member wrote...

At least this confirms that the Reaper presence of Earth is just a coincidence, and they've not lost their senses completely. But I wonder why they didn't head directly to the Citadel. They could easily have overrun its defenses and taken control of the station, thereby allowing them to take control of all Mass Relays and shut them down for everyone except themselves.

They can close the ward arms and keep the reapers out. That's why Sovereign couldn't just blast his way through.

[TexasToast712]

jamesp81 wrote...
Fortunately, the loyal sons of Earth and Palaven are both made of tougher stuff.

Wait for the Krogans turn. Gonna be one hell of a fight the Reapers are in for. Just imagine if the Krogan werent Genophaged!

[ramnozack]

we SHOULD have waited for reapers to invade THEN blow the relay up so the explosion would kill them all. End of reapers

[jamesp81]

SKiLLYWiLLY2 wrote...

I'm pretty sure that was not the answer he gave.

He said they arrived on the galaxy map on the southern part (if you look at it like a compass) which are the Batarian systems. He then said they continued on to earth and everywhere else. Nowhere did he say they entered a Batarian system and used a relay to get to the Local Cluster/Sol.

Also, they arrive at the galaxy at the end of ME2.

The Batarian system that gets wacked in Arrival is on the southern part of the map.  Even though that system is destroyed, that's still their entry point into the galaxy.

I mean, maybe that's not what he's talking about, but is sure does sound very familiar.  I assume you've played Arrival?

[jamesp81]

Forst1999 wrote...

baryonic member wrote...

At least this confirms that the Reaper presence of Earth is just a coincidence, and they've not lost their senses completely. But I wonder why they didn't head directly to the Citadel. They could easily have overrun its defenses and taken control of the station, thereby allowing them to take control of all Mass Relays and shut them down for everyone except themselves.

I don't think they can do that. Sovereign wasn't able to just control the Citadel at will, he needed Saren to infiltrate it. Maybe this time they reacted fast enough, the Citadel is closed and the Council has some control over the mass relays? That could explain why the reapers have to work their way through the galaxy. 

The reason Sovereign needed Saren to infiltrate the Citadel is because the Protheans sabotaged the Citadel relay.

Maybe the engineers on the Citadel have learned how to control the relays.  This would present a huge strategic advantage for the defenders by being able to slow the Reapers considerably.

[jamesp81]

ramnozack wrote...

we SHOULD have waited for reapers to invade THEN blow the relay up so the explosion would kill them all. End of reapers

Wouldn't work.  Reapers move at FTL speeds.  Explosions don't.

Remember that the relay was destroyed with seconds to spare.  If a relay explosion could destroy a Reaper moving at FTL speeds, they all would've died right then anyway, given their proximity.

[Forst1999]

jamesp81 wrote...

Forst1999 wrote...

baryonic member wrote...

At least this confirms that the Reaper presence of Earth is just a coincidence, and they've not lost their senses completely. But I wonder why they didn't head directly to the Citadel. They could easily have overrun its defenses and taken control of the station, thereby allowing them to take control of all Mass Relays and shut them down for everyone except themselves.

I don't think they can do that. Sovereign wasn't able to just control the Citadel at will, he needed Saren to infiltrate it. Maybe this time they reacted fast enough, the Citadel is closed and the Council has some control over the mass relays? That could explain why the reapers have to work their way through the galaxy. 

The reason Sovereign needed Saren to infiltrate the Citadel is because the Protheans sabotaged the Citadel relay.

Maybe the engineers on the Citadel have learned how to control the relays.  This would present a huge strategic advantage for the defenders by being able to slow the Reapers considerably.

He also infiltrated to take out citadel control so that they couldn't close the wards.

[ramnozack]

jamesp81 wrote...

ramnozack wrote...

we SHOULD have waited for reapers to invade THEN blow the relay up so the explosion would kill them all. End of reapers

Wouldn't work.  Reapers move at FTL speeds.  Explosions don't.

Remember that the relay was destroyed with seconds to spare.  If a relay explosion could destroy a Reaper moving at FTL speeds, they all would've died right then anyway, given their proximity.

 It destroyed a star system no? they cant get out of a star system that fast

Modifié par ramnozack, 08 juin 2011 - 10:12 .

[this isnt my name]

TexasToast712 wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...
Fortunately, the loyal sons of Earth and Palaven are both made of tougher stuff.

Wait for the Krogans turn. Gonna be one hell of a fight the Reapers are in for. Just imagine if the Krogan werent Genophaged!

Technologically they arent that tough, gian ship with lasers < Giant lizard.

If they moved through north why are they branching out across the galaxy ? They should focus on the citadel, cut they relays apart, gather info and then go around murdering everything. Thier current plan is just silly, it allows the organics to move around and counter.

[Paulinius]

ramnozack wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

ramnozack wrote...

we SHOULD have waited for reapers to invade THEN blow the relay up so the explosion would kill them all. End of reapers

Wouldn't work.  Reapers move at FTL speeds.  Explosions don't.

Remember that the relay was destroyed with seconds to spare.  If a relay explosion could destroy a Reaper moving at FTL speeds, they all would've died right then anyway, given their proximity.

 It destroyed a star system no? they cant get out of a star system that fast

Physicists have caculated the speed of the matter discharged by a supernova to be around 10% the speed of light. Electromagnetic radiation emitted will of course travel at the speed of light, while the speed of alpha and beta waves will vary.

So in essence, unless the Reapers are deep within the corona of a star when it detonates, they can easily escape the matter discharge and radiation since EDI can do it almost instantaneously, so I'm sure a Reaper is just as fast if not faster.

[Pride Demon]

From what I understood the Reapers had to go through all the "Batarian Sector" as Mr. Houston puts it... So I'm going to guess that's the reason the reapers have so many Cannibals...
I'm also going to guess the Batarians are screwed, unless a miracle (Shepard) happens...