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Sylvius the Mad

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Hi.

Is there any way using the Tactics screen to tell my characters to deactivate sustained abilities at the end of combat?

I generally want to start each encounter with no sustained abilities active, and then my Tactics will trigger them when that character reaches certain pre-determined Stamina or Mana levels.  That way I never have to pay the Stamina or Mana costs for sustained abilities.

I did the same thing in DAO, but in DAO the sustainables always had a visible effect, so I could see they were on after combat and thus go turn them off.

Since there's no way for me to see easily that the sustained abilities are still being sustained without going through and checking every character every time, is there a way to deactivate my sustained abilities when combat ends?

Thanks.

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I don't think there's any way to do that with the default game, but this mod does exactly what you're asking for :)

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I'm not a tactics expert, but I believe you can do this:

At the bottom of your tactics list:
Self: at least on enemy still alive --> skip tactics.
Self: any --> deactivate mode: mode 1
Self: any --> deactivate mode: mode 2
etc.

Seems to work to get Merrill to deactivate blood magic at the end of combat... usually.

This probably messes up with waves in lots of cases though.

Modifié par Filament, 09 juin 2011 - 12:24 .


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There's nothing I can think of that would allow you to do it with any consistency, there'd always be a situation where it wouldn't work the way you want it to, sorry.

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I thought there was a "Enemy: No enemies are alive" tactic, but I could be wrong. I'm not sure if it does completely what you want it to (vanilla is...lacking in many respects). Been ages since I've pulled out DA2 so I don't really remember. The release pizzazz has worn off...

Modifié par ezrafetch, 09 juin 2011 - 02:31 .


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mr_afk

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Do tactics even work outside of combat?
It would be a little redundant to have a condition which wouldn't be able to trigger.

Anyway, I think i'm giving up on DA2 for a while. Maybe I'll get more incentive to play it a few more times once some dlc/DA3 comes closer but atm I'm kicking up another masseffect2 run.
Haven't played any shooting games in so long, so inaccurate hahaa

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mr_afk wrote...

Do tactics even work outside of combat?

I don't think so.  Dog never gets summoned in advance.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

mr_afk wrote...

Do tactics even work outside of combat?

I don't think so.  Dog never gets summoned in advance.

When the tactic I mentioned above seems to work properly, I see Merrill's mana bar gain a big chunk back from deactivating sustains a few seconds after combat ends (after spell effects vanish and XP granted, etc).

Maybe it would work better like this?

Self: at least on enemy still alive --> Skip tactics.
Ally: Health < 100% --> Skip tactics.
Self: any --> deactivate mode: mode 1
Self: any --> deactivate mode: mode 2

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SuicidialBaby wrote...

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I was going to ask you directly, but I thought I saw that you left the forum.

Thanks, everyone.  It would appear that I can use Tactics to do this.

Brilliant.

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Tactics scripting is one area where DA2 is better than DA:O.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

SuicidialBaby wrote...

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I was going to ask you directly, but I thought I saw that you left the forum.

Thanks, everyone.  It would appear that I can use Tactics to do this.

Brilliant.

no, im just not going to update either of those threads any further. I will most likely continue to direct people in your situation to the correct answer, regardless if I posted it or not.

Be aware, if the only remaining enemy is a stealthed rogue the "at least 1 enemy is alive: skip tactics" will cease being active and allow the tactics placed after it to trigger. It should read, "at least 1 visable enemy is alive : skip tactics" so it will match the behavior of the condition.

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 09 juin 2011 - 09:12 .


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SuicidialBaby wrote...

no, im just not going to update either of those threads any further. I will most likely continue to direct people in your situation to the correct answer, regardless if I posted it or not.

Good to know.

Be aware, if the only remaining enemy is a stealthed rogue the "at least 1 enemy is alive: skip tactics" will cease being active and allow the tactics placed after it to trigger. It should read, "at least 1 visable enemy is alive : skip tactics" so it will match the behavior of the condition.

Unless the eventual death of that stealthed rogue triggers another wave of enemies, that shouldn't be a problem.

I complained when they removed the visible effects from sustainable abilities outside of combat, and this was one of the reasons why.  It's good to know they added another feature which mostly fixes it.