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#126
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Nimrodell wrote...

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Nimrodell wrote...

That's not why I'm saying this - do you know definition of cheating (when it comes to relationships)? It has nothing to do if player was miffed about Horizon or not, it has to do with the term itself - in order to cheat someone you need to be in active relationship with 'em. Cheating has conotation that is not moral and when it comes to Ashely or Kaidan on and after Horizon, there's no real relationship, just loose ends that require resolution - nothing more, nothing less. Saying that Shepard is cheating on them is too shallow and to be honest, even my students in first grade of high school have better understanding of what cheating is. I'm just saying that 'cheating' is wrong term for this situation, don't mix what I said with needless defense of VSs.


That's what you were arguing about? Semi-improper usage of a verb? If you really don't want to feel unloyal then make another play through without 'cheating', or use Gibbed Save Editor to do so.

This is worse than the arguments about whether it's racism or xenophobia. <_<


Lol, maybe for you words can be taken so lightly, but I don't take their meaning that way... you can see for yourself on these forums what incorrect understanding usage of nouns and verbs can produce. It's not about me feeling unloyal, muppet, tis just about properly naming things - and if you have problem with someone asking for proper naming, well, so be it. By saying 'if Shepard cheated his/hers LI' one implies that Shepard did an immoral thing and predetermines certain paths as concequences for something that actually didn't happen in many cases for many players, also it imposes false morality. No need for wrong assumptions. Anyways, if you think that that situation can be called cheating, tis fine by me, I just stated what I think and know (well, words, their meaning, even manipulating them are actually my profession and so far it served me well).

By stating that this example of bad scene writting (Horizon) and even worse naming Shepard's actions afterwards (in many cases) is cheating, implies that Shepard is the guilty party, someone who by default did something immoral - and that's just not the case (unless Shepard is like Charlie in Two and a Half Men). I don't know, each time people say  that famous 'if Shepard cheated on his/hers LI...' I just get the feeling that one can get while watching stupid Mexican telenovelas or something like 'Young and Restless'... and it's just eeew. So yes, tis even worse then all those discussions about the correct meaning of racism and xenophobia - those two are serious matters and problems and this one is just about not having cheesy one-standard resolution in ME3 when it comes to love story.

I fail to see why it matters. It's just a catch-all term they use to describe having a relationship in ME1 and then having another one in ME2. Everyone knows what they mean and don't really seem to care. If the term bothers you so much I don't know what to tell you. You're arguing semantics on the internet?

If your concern is on having a "cheesy one-standard resolution in ME3" forced on you I seriously doubt they'll play it out that way unless your Shepard is a jerk and intentionally strings the both of them along in the third game. We won't actually know until the game comes out. I don't see how you can forsee a soap opera style relationship confrontation from the use of a single word though.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 10 juin 2011 - 02:59 .


#127
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If Shepard's planning to resume the relationship with ME1 LI, then it's cheating or something close enough. If they've moved on, it's not.

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Wulfram wrote...

If Shepard's planning to resume the relationship with ME1 LI, then it's cheating or something close enough. If they've moved on, it's not.

I feel that this sums it up pretty nicely.:P

Modifié par EsterCloat, 10 juin 2011 - 03:26 .


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GunMoth wrote...

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On the other hand, though, if you're willing to seriously use a phrase like "hit it and quit it" to describe a female peer, do you really deserve a strong, independent woman like Ashley? My vote would be a resounding "no."


This is pretty amazing. :)


Haha!

I still find the term "cheating" to be objectionable in this situation.  "Moved on" is more like it.  And while I think your ME1 LI would be hurt by it maybe, they really can't be too too angry.  But I do hope that the consequence of "moving on" is that you can't just dump the person you moved on with to re-woo your ME1 flame.  I think it should be done at this point, personally.

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Wulfram wrote...

If Shepard's planning to resume the relationship with ME1 LI, then it's cheating or something close enough. If they've moved on, it's not.


I agree with this statement.