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Abdulink

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The game runs perfectly fine for ~5 minutes, then VOILA, it starts to lag as hell. Totally unplayabble, I have to save the game and restart.


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Intel Core 2 Duo 2.8 GHZ
4 GB RAM
NVIDIA 9500 GT 512 MB

I don't think it has anything to do with my specs, the game runs perfectly fine at full settings then suddenly starts lagging. Restart helps, then again ~5 minutes, lags again. Any help!?

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sami jo

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What are your video drivers and what are your graphics settings in-game?

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Video Drivers are fully updated and Graphics are at full settings. Graphics have nothing to do with this AFAIK, it still lags when I set it to lowest settings. The game runs perfectly fine for a few minutes, then BANG

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Does patching solve the problem?

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Sudden lag can be a sign of a few different issues:

1) Overheating... dust has built up in your PC case (or laptop) and the system throttles back to prevent damage. Or damage has already been done, affecting system performance.

2) Driver issues: in general, it could be that in the process of updating a display driver, something's gone amiss. You can do a clean uninstall/reinstall of your driver. A guide is linked in my sig, below.

3) Nvidia's latest driver-- the 275.33 driver recently released by Nvidia is causing some serious issues with Dragon Age 2. I don't know if it is affecting DAO... but it might not hurt to roll back if you're using it.

4) Graphics settings... some parts of the game are more graphic intensive than others. Turning down AA, and turning off things like v-sync, frame buffer effects, and persistent gore can help.

5) Windows - you don't mention what version of Windows you have... make sure it is up-to-date.

6) Other programs... if you've installed or updated other software lately, it may have added background services which load at Windows startup. This can cause performance slowdown. See the "Solutions Round-up" section on system performance... specifically the Windows Page File system.

EDIT:  Generally, I recommend patching the game to its most current level, which is version 1.04.  Some Vista and Win 7 64-bit users have reported a memory leak problem that is exacerbated by this patch... I have not personally experienced it, but then I don't usually put in marathon sessions in the game.

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 09 juin 2011 - 04:51 .


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Adding... if you have any mods installed... these too can cause lag in some cases.

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Abdulink

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Patching doesn't solve it unfortunately. And I have no mods at all installed.

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Bump

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Gorath Alpha

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sami jo wrote...

What are your video drivers and what are your graphics settings in-game?

Information is lacking.  A completed problem report has not been submitted, and the two questions above have not been answered with the ID of the driver, nor the screen resolution being attempted.  In case of overheat as a vector, thermal readings are in order (SpeedFan is good for that use).

RaenImrahl wrote...

Sudden lag can be a sign of a few different issues:

1) Overheating... dust has built up in your PC case (or laptop) and the system throttles back to prevent damage. Or damage has already been done, affecting system performance.

2) Driver issues: in general, it could be that in the process of updating a display driver, something's gone amiss. You can do a clean uninstall/reinstall of your driver. A guide is linked in my sig, below.

3) Nvidia's latest driver-- the 275.33 driver recently released by Nvidia is causing some serious issues] with Dragon Age 2. I don't know if it is affecting DAO... but it might not hurt to roll back if you're using it.

4) Graphics settings... some parts of the game are more graphic intensive than others. Turning down AA, and turning off things like v-sync, frame buffer effects, and persistent gore can help.

5) Windows - you don't mention what version of Windows you have... make sure it is up-to-date.

6) Other programs... if you've installed or updated other software lately, it may have added background services which load at Windows startup. This can cause performance slowdown. See the "Solutions Round-up" section on system performance... specifically the Windows Page File system.

EDIT:  Generally, I recommend patching the game to its most current level, which is version 1.04.  Some Vista and Win 7 64-bit users have reported a memory leak problem that is exacerbated by this patch... I have not personally experienced it, but then I don't usually put in marathon sessions in the game.

You ignored most of what you were told in that next comment to your thread. 

Raen didn't mention to you that you are using an elderly video graphics card.  When it was new, four years ago, it was the Geforce 8600 GT, an ordinary Mainline (Medium) card.  It is not a High End card.  It was designed to run the games of its day at Medium settings, in medium screen resolutions, and get high frame rates while doing so.  It is now a borderline card sitting in between the current Mainline cards and the current business graphics, low end cards.  You probably are overworking it

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 11 juin 2011 - 03:18 .


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Actually I tried lowering graphics to the minimum and still it doesn't solve it. No background **** and the like running, driver just recently(2-3 days ago) updated. I tried running it on a single core according to some people's advise, I did feel a "liiiiiiitle" improvement.

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Gorath Alpha

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The Geforce 8n00 / 9n00 dual generation doesn't work well with most of the Geforce drivers newer than the 197.xx and the Quality settings are small potatoes in comparison with choosing an incorrect resolution. Thermal information hasn't been obtained and offered (just today in the past few hours, I've named SpeedFan two or three times. Warm weather is here; all of last winter's dust bunnies are now clogging everything up).

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I chose the correct resolution for my monitor.

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Gorath Alpha

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If it's too much for the card, then it isn't "correct" after all, and either the display or the card should be swapped so that the two are complimentary. There are some really nice very large displays available that require High End cards from the last couple of years to match to their very high default resolution.

Incidentally, we prefer to see our members displaying their game registration in their member profiles, like the three under my "picture" on the left. I'll expect you to correct that omission now.

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I still don't see what my graphics card has to do with this. If my graphic card was weak, then it would lag right from the beginning.

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Actually it isn't exactly 5 minutes. I could say 15 minutes. It depends.

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I had a problem with McAfee Anti-Virus causing Dragon Age performance. Not sure if that is relevant to the OP's case.

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Abdulink wrote...

I still don't see what my graphics card has to do with this. If my graphic card was weak, then it would lag right from the beginning.


Not necessarily. The heat and strain after a few minutes of play could get to a card and then slow it to a crawl. And it's not a question of "if it is weak" it is weak it's a budget card so it has limitations and you need to adjust your graphics options to accomodate  it.

There are other things that can cause in game lag like programs running in the background so it's always worth checking out whats running in the background and switching off anything not needed while playing games.

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Obadiah wrote...

I had a problem with McAfee Anti-Virus causing Dragon Age performance. Not sure if that is relevant to the OP's case.

Not to cast aspersions, but I had decided to wait and see whether the OP would register his game before I answered anything more he might add.  So far, there is no icon for any Bioware game under his forum "photo", so after three days, should I expect that to change?  It's 1:00 PM, CDT, almost, on Monday, June 13th when I wrote that.

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Just to add to this thread, I previously ran this game with:

AMD 9500 2.2 quad
Geforce 9500GT
4 gig ram
vista 32 OS
+
lots of disk space used.

I had some issues like slowdown but lowering graphics did help a bit, however...

I formatted, changed a couple things

Radeon HD5670
Win7 64 OS
5 gig ram
tons of free hard drive space

Now the game runs like complete garbage, even the cinematics are choppy.

Drivers are up to date (in64bit), cpu usage no different than it was before..absolute minimal windows services running, game patched to 1.04 (as before) , all the same mods installed. Nothing I do seems to fix this. No dust issues, new card temps are about the same.

I was also running the 5670 video card for a bit before changing OS, and gameplay was improved. As soon as I reinstalled everything in 64 bit OS it all went to ****. I've tried older directx, reinstalling older driver version for the 5670, playing in other compatibilty modes, affinity switching, underclocking, overclocking..nothing seems to work. DAO now hates my computer.

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Gorath Alpha wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

I had a problem with McAfee Anti-Virus causing Dragon Age performance. Not sure if that is relevant to the OP's case.

Not to cast aspersions, but I had decided to wait and see whether the OP would register his game before I answered anything more he might add.  So far, there is no icon for any Bioware game under his forum "photo", so after three days, should I expect that to change?  It's 1:00 PM, CDT, almost, on Monday, June 13th when I wrote that.

stragonar wrote...

Radeon HD5670
Win7 64 OS
5 gig ram

Now the game runs like complete garbage, even the cinematics are choppy.

I was also running the 5670 video card for a bit before changing OS, and gameplay was improved. As soon as I reinstalled everything in 64 bit OS it all went to ****. I've tried older directx, reinstalling older driver version for the 5670, playing in other compatibilty modes, affinity switching, underclocking, overclocking..nothing seems to work. DAO now hates my computer.


You may want to try without any patch beyond 1.02A; the 1,03 / 1.04 patch pair has caused tons of trouble for many Windows 7 users.  Not for everyone, not even a majority, but with a game that sold as many copies as this one has, it amounts to a significant number.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 13 juin 2011 - 09:46 .


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I'll give it a shot, thanks gorath.

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Stragonar, does any other game work besides Dragon Age on your updated system?

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yes, in fact..i got the DA2 demo for PC and it works fine with limited slowdown/fps issues which is kind of amusing because the entire reason I got DA2 on xbox360 was to avoid the problems with DAO. Oh well.

Reinstalling DAO and patching only up to 1.02A has made a slight improvement, but it is still a little worse than it was before the change to my computer and now I'm plagued with the old long area loading times - sometimes to the point of the game not responding entirely. I might try 1.03 and see what happens.

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stragonar wrote...

yes, in fact..i got the DA2 demo for PC and it works fine with limited slowdown/fps issues which is kind of amusing because the entire reason I got DA2 on xbox360 was to avoid the problems with DAO. Oh well.

Reinstalling DAO and patching only up to 1.02A has made a slight improvement, but it is still a little worse than it was before the change to my computer and now I'm plagued with the old long area loading times - sometimes to the point of the game not responding entirely. I might try 1.03 and see what happens.


I see you've updated your video card and RAM, but not your CPU?  Are you playing at the same graphics settings as before your upgrade?

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RaenImrahl wrote...

stragonar wrote...

yes, in fact..i got the DA2 demo for PC and it works fine with limited slowdown/fps issues which is kind of amusing because the entire reason I got DA2 on xbox360 was to avoid the problems with DAO. Oh well.

Reinstalling DAO and patching only up to 1.02A has made a slight improvement, but it is still a little worse than it was before the change to my computer and now I'm plagued with the old long area loading times - sometimes to the point of the game not responding entirely. I might try 1.03 and see what happens.


I see you've updated your video card and RAM, but not your CPU?  Are you playing at the same graphics settings as before your upgrade?


Same settings:

med gfx
med textures
frame buffer
1440x900reso
no anti-aliasing
intro movies disabled
no gore

I'll note that with the newer card frame buffer issues with areas like the fade no longer seem to make a difference, they seemed to tax my old 9500GT heavily. I've tried several different options for lower resolutions/windowed mode and have found they don't really make much difference.

CPU was not upgraded, i did however change the power supply to 600w to support the new card. These things were also done well BEFORE changing to win7 64bit OS, which is when the problems started. Also, the added ram..I already had the 5gig ram but stated it as 4gig since that is all vista 32 recognizes/uses.