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[LPPrince]

 Can we PLEASE get Auto AR's that don't suck in ME3?

Not counting the Revenant(as I consider that a LMG), the Avenger, Collector, and GPR all leave me desiring more.

I want a fully auto assault rifle with a big clip of say 60-80 rounds, holding 600-800 total ammo, and while not being strong(otherwise it'd be totally OP) would leave me room to spray rooms clean.

Or a fully auto assault rifle with a normal say 40-50 round clip, 300-350 total ammo that is stronger than all of the ones we got in ME2?

I don't want to have to use the Mattock's semi auto firing or the Vindicator's burst firing(with nothing for ammo, really) just to have a strong weapon.

Maybe its just me, I don't know. I just want a better automatic assault rifle with a big clip. I'm a little tired of not being able to hold the trigger down to annihilate the competition.

Am I the only one with this opinion?

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I liked the Avenger, the Revenant, and even the Tempest (submachine gun). I've always preferred full auto over burst fire.

[Schneidend]

I'd love to see the Avenger become more of a contender, personally.

I'll be sticking with the Revenant as my AR either way, though.

[TexasToast712]

LPPrince wrote...

 Can we PLEASE get Auto AR's that don't suck in ME3?

Not counting the Revenant(as I consider that a LMG), the Avenger, Collector, and GPR all leave me desiring more.

I want a fully auto assault rifle with a big clip of say 60-80 rounds, holding 600-800 total ammo, and while not being strong(otherwise it'd be totally OP) would leave me room to spray rooms clean.

Or a fully auto assault rifle with a normal say 40-50 round clip, 300-350 total ammo that is stronger than all of the ones we got in ME2?

I don't want to have to use the Mattock's semi auto firing or the Vindicator's burst firing(with nothing for ammo, really) just to have a strong weapon.

Maybe its just me, I don't know. I just want a better automatic assault rifle with a big clip. I'm a little tired of not being able to hold the trigger down to annihilate the competition.

Am I the only one with this opinion?

Its called a MAGAZINE! NOT A CLIP!

[Cancer Puppet]

The tempest was great for shields and barriers, but when you got down to health or worse, armor, it wasn't so hot. Mattock, FTW.

[Schneidend]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Its called a MAGAZINE! NOT A CLIP!

Two terms that colloquially mean the same thing.

[LPPrince]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Its called a MAGAZINE! NOT A CLIP!

I know that magazine and clip are not interchangeable(yet often are used that way). I slip up sometimes.

But now I'm tempted to keep using clip when I mean magazine.

[Hathur]

Tempest saw primary useage on engineer - tears through shields & barriers faster than just about anything... though it's useless vs armor & health... however, I'd just use the tempest to peel away the shields/barrier, then smack 'em with an incinerate to finish them off... it wasn't a weapon you used to kill enemies, but instead to open their defenses for tech attacks or biotics.

Mattock is certainly very powerful, but the avenger holds up ok.. it could use a small performance boost, but I've finished insanity using it as my primary and the gameplay wasn't all the noticeably more difficult because of it.

[LPPrince]

Oi, and I'm only counting AR's, not SMG's(love the Tempest and Locust, but I wish the Locust had more ammo in a CLIP).

I play a Vanguard, so no Revenant for me. I refuse to mod my 360 games.

Its good that any class can use any weapon they want in ME3, so I'll just pick a fully auto AR then, but I just wanted to vent for a bit.

[TexasToast712]

Schneidend wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Its called a MAGAZINE! NOT A CLIP!

Two terms that colloquially mean the same thing.

No

[TexasToast712]

LPPrince wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Its called a MAGAZINE! NOT A CLIP!

I know that magazine and clip are not interchangeable(yet often are used that way). I slip up sometimes.

But now I'm tempted to keep using clip when I mean magazine.

Sorry,  I spend too much time on the Battlefield and CoD forums where you have kids posting "Mah m16 needZ MoAr bUllEtZ in A CLIP duDe!"

[greed89]

I Thought the Vindicator was pretty Awesome

[LPPrince]

greed89 wrote...

I Thought the Vindicator was pretty Awesome

Yeah, except its a burst rifle with a small MAGAZINE.

Doesn't even have a lot of ammo really, so personally I'd prefer other weapons over it. Definitely the Mattock. Which again, isn't automatic.

Which is my point. None of the automatic rifles are really really good. They're just there until you either use the Burst Rifle, Heavy Rifle, or in the case of a Soldier, the Light Machine Gun.

Modifié par LPPrince, 09 juin 2011 - 04:06 .

[Nashiktal]

I liked the avenger thank you. The only gun I use until the revenant.

I thought the reason it didn't shine was because of balance issues instead of actual power. Especially when the mattock came out. Crazy overpowered it was.

[LPPrince]

The thing for me(about the Avenger) isn't just that it lacks power, but that its so.......generic.

I've seen it so much that it got boring. I really love the way the Collector AR looks, sounds, reloads, all that. I just wish it did more damage or at least had a bigger magazine(still gotta stop myself from saying clip).

[Schneidend]

TexasToast712 wrote...

No

You may want to look up the definition of "colloquial" before you rage like a child.

[LPPrince]

I wonder about the Revenant and its use in ME3. Will there be changes to give it a bigger clip(not gonna change that one anymore, I give up)? Better accuracy?(I hope)

[Hathur]

Schneidend wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

No

You may want to look up the definition of "colloquial" before you rage like a child.

And you're mistaken in assuming that "clip" can be used as a colloquial term or reference for "magazine"... it cannot.

Apple is as much a colloquial term for Orange as clip is for magazine... in other words, they are not.

"Kid" is a colloquial term for child.

A clip is the metal.. well.. clip... that holds a string of bullets together. The magazine is what the clip is placed into.

Engine is not a colloquial for car, afterall, is it?

Modifié par Hathur, 09 juin 2011 - 04:43 .

[Bogsnot1]

I had no problems at all with the Collector AR, and stuck with it even when the Rev was available.
Then again, I play with some tactics, instead of "ZOMG! I IS TEH UBERZ!!!11!!!"

[LPPrince]

Whenever you guys are done with this "Clip/Mag" thing, let me know.

I'd like to get this thread to stay on the original subject without petty arguing over words when you KNOW what the real intent was.

[Schneidend]

Hathur wrote...

<Clipped> (hurr)

In informal languange "clip" is used to describe the "place where the bullets go" all the time. It is a colloquialism. That the clip is actually the technical term for what holds a bundle of bullets inside the actual place where the bullets go is not mutually exclusive to it being a common term used by those who aren't gun enthusiasts.

Sorry, language is dynamic. Formal and informal verbage evolve independently as well as interdependently. Ask any linguist.

Anyway, I think the Avenger could either use a slight boost in damage or an increased clip size. On Insanity I found it fell short even with 100% of shots fired hitting their mark from close range (+50% damage I believe). The Vindicator, on the other hand, could potentially kill three enemies in a single Adrenaline Rush without reloading in between.

[Hathur]

LPPrince wrote...

Whenever you guys are done with this "Clip/Mag" thing, let me know.

I'd like to get this thread to stay on the original subject without petty arguing over words when you KNOW what the real intent was.

Fair enough.. but it's hard to keep one's mouth shut when you see someone take a word from the English language (i.e. colloquial) and not understand it's meaning... and then to take 2 completely separate objects and argue they are one and the same, when nothing could be further from the truth (it would be like aruging a fork is the same thing as a spoon.. they are both utensils, but one cannot be used as a colloquial term for the other).

Anyway back on topic... one thing I would like to see (well for the soldier.. which oddly, I don't play.. but nevertheless) is a new / additional light machine gun or heavy machine gun... I hope it isn't just the revenant coming back.. would be nice to have an alternate LMG too.

Modifié par Hathur, 09 juin 2011 - 04:32 .

[I-am-Biwinning]

THERE ARE NO MAGAZINES IN MASS EFFECT!

*Ahem*

We have ammunition blocks and thermal clips. Baseless pedantry is unimpressive. Now that that is sorted out, let intelligent comments pertinent to the OP commence.

I totally agree with you. When I fire the Geth pulse rifle, it feels like I am spraying bb's. We need a full auto assault rifle that hits like the mattock does. As overpowered as it is, I use it all the time because it just feels so much better than the other assault rifles. I would love a heavy hitting full auto AR.

[Schneidend]

People use the term "clip" and mean "magazine." It is commonly accepted by those who aren't gun enthusiasts, especially gamers. When my friend says he got a new machine pistol with "+50 rounds in the clip" in Borderlands, I know exactly what he's talking about. Whether or not it is technically correct is immaterial. It's informal, conversational speech. It's colloquial.

As far as your suggestion goes, Hathur, I'd also support another LMG, but I love damn near any large automatic weaponry, so I'm a tad biased. I'd kind of like to see a blue LMG that is a newer model built specifically to take some of the Revenant's market share by some rival arms manufacturer. Perhaps it could have a tighter spread but a less frenzied rate of fire and a smaller clip. Better instant gratification, but less DPS for those heavy targets.

[SmokePants]

Full auto, by it's nature, can't be good, because it would be overpowered and boring. They are so predictable: each individual bullet does negligible damage, the spread increases the longer you fire, and... that's pretty much it. They are all the same damn weapon.

I ALWAYS prefer semi-auto firing. It's that 1:1 relationship between pulls of the trigger and brains being splattered. Each bullet can pack a punch and accuracy is consistent. It gives you the feeling of reaching out and touching enemies that you just don't get by laying on the bullet hose.