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Reapers seem too powerful to take on without some kind of plot twist


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annihilator27 wrote...

Garrus is going to callibrate the Mass Relay's into a weapon.


So that's what he's been doing all these years...It all makes sense now, all that calibrating. I knew it wasn't for nothing, I knew he wasn't just avoiding me!

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Akizora wrote...
It took a long time, and we would lose our position in the Mass Effect galaxy as a superpower - we would likely be cast out of the council and not have any influence on galactic politics. The Batarians (assuming they aren't all indoctrinated) would likely seize opportunity to attack humanity. Other species would be unable to assist since they are recovering from the reaper invasion...So yeah, we'd be screwed, royally.

There is much more to survival than being a superpower.  The Alliance may have to become a client race of the Turian Hegenomy in order to survive, but it would be worth it to destroy the reapers.

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Deleted double post, BSN's playing silly buggers again :)

Modifié par IRMcGhee, 12 juin 2011 - 03:06 .


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Maybe the mass relays DO get turned into weapons. The drawback, they r all unaligned and everybody is cut off from each other across the universe.

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Akizora wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

Garrus is going to callibrate the Mass Relay's into a weapon.


So that's what he's been doing all these years...It all makes sense now, all that calibrating. I knew it wasn't for nothing, I knew he wasn't just avoiding me!


Autumn Sky?

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bobobo878 wrote...

There is much more to survival than being a superpower.  The Alliance may have to become a client race of the Turian Hegenomy in order to survive, but it would be worth it to destroy the reapers.


I wouldn't be so sure, I would rather lure all Reapers to the Turian homeworld and blow up their relay...

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Akizora wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

There is much more to survival than being a superpower.  The Alliance may have to become a client race of the Turian Hegenomy in order to survive, but it would be worth it to destroy the reapers.


I wouldn't be so sure, I would rather lure all Reapers to the Turian homeworld and blow up their relay...

With what, a carrot on a stick?  The reapers aren't going to leave the solar system until it has been competely sterilized.

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bobobo878 wrote...

With what, a carrot on a stick?  The reapers aren't going to leave the solar system until it has been competely sterilized.


Well the Reapers are on a lot of worlds, so why would they all head to earth and get blown up by the Charon relay?

Modifié par Akizora, 12 juin 2011 - 03:06 .


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bobobo878 wrote...

Akizora wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Destroying the Charon mass relay seems like a perfectly viable option to me, there are millions humans living offworld, and the human race could survive the destruction of Earth.


99.8% of all humans are on earth, the human race would become extinct. In contrast there is around 11.8 billion humans on earth and around 6 million humans off-world. I made a post a long time ago adding together all the populations of all human worlds (source was a canon comic featuring the collectors and Aria) but I can't find it again...Still that's about how I remember it.

6 million humans would have more than enough genetic diversity to support a viable population.  according to Toba Caatastrophe theory, the total population of the human race was reduced to less than 15,000 people after a supervolcanic eruption in Indonesia, and yet, we're still here.  Earth once had a much lower population than many of it's colonies do in mass effect, and now they are much better equipped to survive.


Sure, that tactic would work great, apart from a few minor problems...

Such as:

Those colonies that were mentioned?  Well they're likely to be attacked too and it would only take a single Reaper to reduce the populations from 6,000,000 to 0.  Lose the Earth by blowing up Sol System and bye bye Humanity, it was fun while it lasted.

Another minor problem with this tactic is that the Reapers are attacking the whole Galaxy.  Wiping out the ones attacking Earth might get a few, but whats your plan for dealing with the rest?  Are you going to blow up the Sun's of the Turian's, Asari's, Salarian's, Krogan's etc homeworlds also?  What about the Suns surrounding major colonies being attacked?  Shall we blow them up too so that we can kill the Reapers that are attacking them?  What would be left at the end?

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My Reaper strategy is to throw Shepard into a Mass Relay, aim it, and then do a Vanguard Charge at the Reaper armada.

Crisis averted.

Modifié par Warkupo, 12 juin 2011 - 03:19 .


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it will probably be a powerful ancient weapon or something.

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Then Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White and
Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight.
And Benito Mussolini and The Blue Meanie,
and Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie
Robocop, the Terminator,
Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
Lo Pan, Superman,
every single Power Ranger.
Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan,
Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan -
All came out of no where lightning fast,
And they kicked The Reaper's spaceship ass.

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Grey34 wrote...

it will probably be a powerful ancient weapon or something.


You mean like the ones in SG1 and SGA that solve every problem and defeat every enemy?

Modifié par Akizora, 12 juin 2011 - 04:00 .


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I only hope it is the galaxy that defeats them, our working together and what we know and have experiences so far.

I am half expecting some big awesome super being to step in, perhaps even the creator of the Reaper cycle itself. Some silly ending like its all been a test and Shepard + galaxy alliance finally pass the test at the last second and his calls off his attack dogs.

But yeh, I am hyped up much more, for us giving the reapers a good old fashion ass kicking back to dark space.

Modifié par Kileyan, 12 juin 2011 - 04:10 .


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Akizora wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

it will probably be a powerful ancient weapon or something.


You mean like the ones in SG1 and SGA that solve every problem and defeat every enemy?


lol yeah that, no i wasn't being serious:). what ever the plot twist may be it won't be the obvious 

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Andy379 wrote...

Then Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White and
Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight.
And Benito Mussolini and The Blue Meanie,
and Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie
Robocop, the Terminator,
Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
Lo Pan, Superman,
every single Power Ranger.
Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan,
Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan -
All came out of no where lightning fast,
And they kicked The Reaper's spaceship ass.


LOL looks like the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny will need to have a few more lines now.

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hex23 wrote...

They don't really seem too powerful to take on.

Keep in mind this is how they reproduce....and judging by the events in "ME2" they need thousands if not hundreds of thousands of a species to create 1 new Reaper.

So it becomes a question of, can we defeat enough of them that this Cycle becomes more trouble than it's worth. That's all we'd need to do. We don't need to wipe out all, or even most of them. Yes there is thousands of them but there is literally trillions opposing them....and every Galactic species outside of maybe the Krogans can replenish their numbers far faster than the Reapers can. Bioware could end "ME3" with Shepard and friends repelling the intiial Reaper assault and then make the rest of the games in the series focus on random character encounters with them as they're driven back to Dark Space.
 


If fighting one Reaper in Mass Effect had the consequences it did (human and Turian forces decimated), I hate to imagine hundreds of thousands or millions of them.

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Stardusk78 wrote...

A resurrected Wilson will end the Reaper threat.


Lol. And give Miranda a wedgie.

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It was never a question of "Will there be a plot twist?"
Just a question of "How believe-able will the plot twist be?"

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I'm still hoping we can infiltrate or siege the Citadel, then activate the relay ourselves. At that point, all Reapers should be forced into the Widow system, at which point we have a massive strategic advantage.

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I'm still hoping we can infiltrate or siege the Citadel, then activate the relay ourselves. At that point, all Reapers should be forced into the Widow system, at which point we have a massive strategic advantage.


How would activating the Citadel Relay force the Reapers into the Widow System?  All it would do is open a path to the receiving Relay in Dark Space...

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1. the derelict reaper is 37mill years old could this possibly taken place during the first extinction event or even better before the reapers began extinction say by an ancient version of the quarians who accidentally created an ai that hates organics?

2.i remember someone from bioware saying that ALL things through out the series will play an important role latter on (ie the cipher) come on people lets have some faith in bioware!

3. the citadel is reaper and vigil hacked the citadel pretty well in ME so maybe there is a secret deep within the citadel data banks that will help defeat its creators.

4.the keepers are experts on the citadel which is reaper tech so if the galaxy could get them to work with them they might have enough of an advantage to win.

5. the weapon that cerberus found TIM said it was dysfunctional but you can still open it up and reverse engineer and make a working version.

6a. we know from tali's recruitment mission that what ever happened to the sun it makes kinetic and biotic barriers drop and we also know that the reapers are pretty weak without their kinetic barriers because sovereign went down easy once shepard dropped his kinetic barrier, so maybe the protheans weaponized it or had plans to but were unable to complete it.

6b. i have always wondered what the big prothean sphere that you find on one of your sid missions was for. maybe its a power source or main component for a weapon?

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actually, the cipher is mentioned in me2. Morinth uses it if you recruited her as evidence that you might survive sleeping with her.

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Akizora wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

Garrus is going to callibrate the Mass Relay's into a weapon.


So that's what he's been doing all these years...It all makes sense now, all that calibrating. I knew it wasn't for nothing, I knew he wasn't just avoiding me!


Jokes about Garrus aside, thats actualy a viable option.  If the Mass Relay Network can be 'hacked' for want of a better term then they could seriously do some damage to the Reapers.  When using the Relays they need information about the ship (namely its Mass) and the destination co-ordinates.  So what would happen to a Reaper that weighed 500 Tonnes if you told the Relay that it weighed 50 Tonnes?

Modifié par Dave666, 12 juin 2011 - 05:16 .


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plot twist.... conrad verner saves the day