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[callitri]

We are all waiting for the conclusion of the mass effect trilogy , and ofc we all saw most of the material about mass effect 3 so far .

Hope i am not alone but i am worried about a few things about how the storry unfolds , granted we know a little bit so if these will become out of date ok but to me it seems ( again based on the information avaible so far) that the storry will suffer a bit.

In the first game we are presented with this race of scentient starship called reapers and we see just how insanely powefull even one of them can be.

In the seccond game at the ending we see an ocean ( best i can discribe it ) of them waiking up.

We know that they have been doing this cicle of extermination for millions of years so they have experience , granted this is the first time as far as we know that they are forced to improvise but still.

In evry attack they come into out galaxy throu the citadel mass relay wipeing out the leadership but more importantly seazing control of the network hub and shuting down the realys then they can pick us off as they see fit.

This time they had to enter the galaxy by alternative means but still i dont understand why wasnt the citadel the first stop?

Some may say they had a grdue against humans bacause of Shepard , but these are cold calculateing mashines they wont loose there heads sort of speak and rush at u with rage.

Shepard has to flea earth to gather an army , i am afraid that the game designers will make or made allready the mistake most scifi shows make.

Build up the enemy at the begining to be this super powerfull unstopable force then they dumb them down and scale there power down throu out the show to make them beatable.

Just look at stargate atlantis first season in the first episodes the wraith solders are like walking tanks they eat bullets by the hundreds and they still keep coming at u, ant by the end of the series 2-3 shots takes the same soldiers down.

Even if they dont take out the citadel and go to earth i dont see how could we stop them even with a full galactic army based on how powerfull they are in the first game and just how many they are based on the seccond games ending.
And if we are at the subject o earth , dont understand why isnt the planet bombed from orbit the moment they arrive?

Mass effect was allways about a great captivating storry that kept u amaised i just hope they dont screw up the ending.

Again if any of the things i mentioned become clear during the long wait till the release i wil understand but till then i am worried

Modifié par callitri, 09 juin 2011 - 11:50 .

[An Irate Hobo]

With all the hype about the game it is understanding to be worried about the story but I have absolute confidence BW will do the series justice and even if they do fumble the ending I'll still look back at the past 6 years of Mass Effect and know that I cherished every moment of this epic trilogy.

[Robhuzz]

There's only 1 (well maybe 2) things I'm worried about.

1. BW/EA spoiling the entire game before release, including important plot points
2. ME3 N7 Collectors edition not being available in my country (This will probably be fixed later but still, as long as it's not, I can worry about it)

As for ME3, so far both the shooter elements and the rpg elements look to be vastly improved, I'm not worried about ME3 ingame in the slightest.

[byzantine horse]

The only itch I have from what I've seen so far is the speed of the rolls and stuff Shepard does. It looks as if everything stops up when he rolls or reloads (in comparison) because it happens so quickly. And btw, shouldn't reloading be one of those moments when you go "damn" because you have not saved your rounds for the right moment or something? If reloading takes 0.2 seconds it isn't much of a concern.

[Nvanz13]

I have to agree with "An Irate Hobo". Even if they ruin the ending, Mass Effect 2 alone has given me the best gaming experience of my life thus far. I think I can have a terrible ending to three and still be satisfied overall.

[Robhuzz]

The fast reloading makes sense from a lore point of view. Why create superior weapons and heat sinks (specifically designed to do away with the cooldowns weapons experienced before this upgrade) when reloading takes an incredibly long time?

[callitri]

about BW/EA i am only worried about the ea part , ea has a history of screwing up games , bw has a history of the oposite so i trust bw , i am just worried ea will press them to finish up and not give them time enough to polish it till its ready , the story elements i am worried about are based on what i seen in the first 2 games , but i see others discussing this and they came to the same conclusion reapers wont be defeated by conventional means if they could be they would have been long time ago

[United_Strafes]

If there were paragraphs, punctuation or capitol letters anywhere in that mess I still wouldn't have read it......

Modifié par United_Strafes, 09 juin 2011 - 11:15 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

callitri wrote...

about BW/EA i am only worried about the ea part , ea has a history of screwing up games , bw has a history of the oposite so i trust bw , i am just worried ea will press them to finish up and not give them time enough to polish it till its ready , the story elements i am worried about are based on what i seen in the first 2 games , but i see others discussing this and they came to the same conclusion reapers wont be defeated by conventional means if they could be they would have been long time ago

In an interview the other day (forgot which one it was) John Riccitiello (CEO of EA) stated how they are ensuring ME3 IS polished before it is released even if that means having to wait till next year, so your concerns of EA should be forgotten

Edit: @United_Strafes no offence, but I find it mildly amusing your commenting on someone elses post in such a fashion when your spelling has at least one big capital error in it and in case you decide to use it as a retort, yes I am fully aware my username isn't spelt right.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 09 juin 2011 - 11:29 .

[callitri]

let hope ea will not ruin this for us , i still remember the fail that was da2 , on a side now is there a link with the demo of them fighting on earth without any overhead comentary ? want to hear the original sounds

and about my spelling , english isnt my native language so know i make errors i apolagise for them

[Sylvianus]

@ OP : Make paragraphs, ventilate the text and make it legible can help too.

[Autoclave]

I am only worried about Steam version of ME3. I am not afraid of anything else related to ME3. If EA will insist on installing their Origin crap, I will make sure to ignore as many EA games as possible in future.

[onelifecrisis]

Holy crap, OP. There is no way I'm gonna bother deciphering that wall of text. I'm not a grammar **** but ffs at least use some full stops (periods).

[Bogsnot1]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Holy crap, OP. There is no way I'm gonna bother deciphering that wall of text. I'm not a grammar **** but ffs at least use some full stops (periods).

+1

[callitri]

well i edited it a bit hope this helps

[Kabanya101]

So callitri:

Your worried that the first ME's plot and lore will be tarnished because the reapers will head straight to Earth, instead of to the Citadel to shut down the mass relays. Because in the first game, the reason for shutting down the mass relays, was so that they could pick all the races and planets off with ease.

But there is no need to be worried, because even though the reapers aren't going for a second attack on the Citadel, they are going for the strongest race in the galaxy, humans.

Liara even said it herself in ME1, since humans have such a short lifespan compared to most other races, the tend to move forward in life very fast, and even steamroll other races out of their way for what they want.

Plus they want to make a human reaper, so taking Earth could allow them for a second chance.

[callitri]

They want a human reaper fine. But there ultimate goal is the succesfull extermination of evryone right?
So why let the the galaxy freely travel and organise against u when u can prevent that ?
They can make that human reaper after most of the resistance in the galaxy is exterminated , they are timeless after all.
But again these are just personal views and concerns and as such opend to debate and argument .
All in all i want an epic ending to this trilogy , even if all my concerns will be founded but i still get the feeling wich i got from the Sovereign-Shepard conversation i will be happy.
Many blamed ME2 for lacking those moments , well in a trilogy part 2 has to be a low point sort of speak , so that part 3 will blow u away. This said i dont consider ME2 a bad game , it had the roll to move and prepare the story for part 3 , and in that it sucseded .

[Robhuzz]

callitri wrote...

They want a human reaper fine. But there ultimate goal is the succesfull extermination of evryone right?
So why let the the galaxy freely travel and organise against u when u can prevent that ?
They can make that human reaper after most of the resistance in the galaxy is exterminated , they are timeless after all.

From reaper point of view: Because we don't care. Organize your armies, attack some of our bases, try to prevent us from wiping out a planet. It's not like going to make a difference, we're here now and when we leave again in a few 100 years, none of you will still be around.

Sovereign said it: "Confidence born of ignorance, the cycle cannot be broken" Aka we're unstoppable
Harbinger said: "You fight against inevitability, clouds of dust against cosmic wind" and "Shepard, you've changed nothing, your species has the attention of those far your greater" Aka you're not going to stop us.

Short point: The reapers think themselves invincible, all the other races of the universe can do is try to fight a futile war, and be destroyed.

[Flashlegend]

callitri wrote...

They want a human reaper fine. But there ultimate goal is the succesfull extermination of evryone right?
So why let the the galaxy freely travel and organise against u when u can prevent that ?
They can make that human reaper after most of the resistance in the galaxy is exterminated , they are timeless after all.
But again these are just personal views and concerns and as such opend to debate and argument .
All in all i want an epic ending to this trilogy , even if all my concerns will be founded but i still get the feeling wich i got from the Sovereign-Shepard conversation i will be happy.
Many blamed ME2 for lacking those moments , well in a trilogy part 2 has to be a low point sort of speak , so that part 3 will blow u away. This said i dont consider ME2 a bad game , it had the roll to move and prepare the story for part 3 , and in that it sucseded .

From what Casey Hudson said yesterday, it doesn't seem like they're heading straight for earth. He mentioned the reapers passing by batarian space and wreaking havoc on their way to earth. And I'm sure bioware will pull through.(hopefully?)

edit: all of what the above poster said is also true.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 09 juin 2011 - 02:06 .

[Tripedius]

Robhuzz wrote...

callitri wrote...

They want a human reaper fine. But there ultimate goal is the succesfull extermination of evryone right?
So why let the the galaxy freely travel and organise against u when u can prevent that ?
They can make that human reaper after most of the resistance in the galaxy is exterminated , they are timeless after all.

From reaper point of view: Because we don't care. Organize your armies, attack some of our bases, try to prevent us from wiping out a planet. It's not like going to make a difference, we're here now and when we leave again in a few 100 years, none of you will still be around.

Sovereign said it: "Confidence born of ignorance, the cycle cannot be broken" Aka we're unstoppable
Harbinger said: "You fight against inevitability, clouds of dust against cosmic wind" and "Shepard, you've changed nothing, your species has the attention of those far your greater" Aka you're not going to stop us.

Short point: The reapers think themselves invincible, all the other races of the universe can do is try to fight a futile war, and be destroyed.

That and I think Reapers don't really mind losing some of their own, as they would be considerd weak when defeated by minor species (not offical, but I think it would fit).

And of course, if the Reapers are too succesfull there won't be a game, cause you would start up ME3 and just get a cutscene.

Modifié par Tripedius, 09 juin 2011 - 02:05 .

[KenKenpachi]

I have only one worry.

That I won't be able to take a look into this part of the forum as its turned into a nest of crazy.

[mcsupersport]

Have you also considered that without the Keepers under their control they can't just waltz in and take the Citadel. You can close up the Citadel and since it is made by the Reapers it is pretty impregnable to the point that opening it without inside help may well destroy it. So a fleet of Reapers arrive at the Citadel just to see it close up and then what?? Saren in the first ME prevented the closing until Sovereign was able to get inside, but right now that option is off the table. Wast e of time for the Reapers, so they will go Reap some and get some indoctrinated to do what Saren did in the first.

[sumoaltus]

This is a good thread, and a good assessment and I undersand exactly what you're getting at. However, they need to be made beatable, or else it takes the word "game" out of videogame.

Now I'm sure Bioware took this into account and planned for this issue because the boss (in this case the reapers) needs to be beatable, to an extent. I personally think that there will be some form of glitch or possibly virus that will be sent out throughout all startships. Obviously it won't be an easy feat, but that's where I feel they are going. The whole "off switch" mentality.

[Thanatos5150]

I take it English isn't your native language, OP? Assuming this is the case, an admirable attempt!

On-topic, most of my friends are whining about ow the only real screenshots that have gotten to ol' reveal are combat-centric. We want to see more officially released 'shots of RPG elements.
As for reloading being too fast - the only time I used a firearm was in boot camp, with the only prior experience I had being when my father showed me how they worked.
I can reload a standard sidearm in about .2 seconds. Maybe less. (Standard being the Beretta M9, I was American military.)
It DOES concern me that Shep apparently took forever to learn to pull of some basic maneuvers (Read: the bloody SWAT turn), and I'm worried as to how they may be implemented.

On another note: I hope we can get the paragon/renegade/SPECTRE symbols as armour decals or shoulder pad insignia or something, because those look awesome.

Modifié par Thanatos5150, 09 juin 2011 - 02:53 .