Think about it: After EDI is hooked up to the SR2 near the end of ME2, she refers to herself as the Normandy itself, with it becoming her "body".
Now, we all know that the Normandy SR2 will remain in ME3, and EDI too, but with some Alliance retrofitting done. This means taking it apart, studying it, adding new tech, and putting it back together.
Now, EDI is (arguably) sentient. That would be a huge traumatic experience for any sentient being, artificial or not.
I hope she isn't mentally scarred too much (or at all), 'cause the Normandy needs a badass AI, and Joker needs a cockpit-Buddy.
Am I the only one who's going to feel a bit sorry for EDI in ME3?
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:03
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Kind of, yes. Come on, your body being dismantled, and modified, then put back together again wouldn't shake you up a bit?
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:05
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As attached as some people may be to Edi, IT is still just an AI and will be absolutely fine regardless of what happens to the ship or the crew. I'm questioning if this is meant to be a serious question.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:05
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No not really it's not like they added some kind of receptors so EDI felt pain.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:06
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I can't imagine EDI being too affected by it - her conscious self is still in the AI core and that should be unaffected.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:06
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Actually, he's got a point...
Like someone's making a live operation on you... Nasty.
Like someone's making a live operation on you... Nasty.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:07
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candidate88766 wrote...
I can't imagine EDI being too affected by it - her conscious self is still in the AI core and that should be unaffected.
Your conscious self is in your head... but when I cut off your arm, it hurts...
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:08
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Dexi wrote...
candidate88766 wrote...
I can't imagine EDI being too affected by it - her conscious self is still in the AI core and that should be unaffected.
Your conscious self is in your head... but when I cut off your arm, it hurts...
When the AI gets a system of nerves and can feel pain, then I might consider feeling bad for it. That's a bad comparison.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:09
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They should transfer her into a new robot body... In a catsuit!
Or maybe not. <_<
Or maybe not. <_<
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:09
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Meh, I guess it was a bit of a silly topic in the first place. I was just thinking in perspective.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:09
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I think it's a valid question if there is the possibility that they will be modifying EDIs programming. It's likely that a sentient AI would feel fear about being altered/tampered with. If it's ship changes are unrelated to EDIs programming I don't think that would be as traumatic.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:11
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Stop projecting anthropocentric bias onto EDI. When she was saying the ship is her body and the sensors her eyes, she was speaking in metaphor.
If you want to feel concerned for EDI, then question the ethical value of creating a sapient being in the form of a warship, for the purpose of fighting and making warfare. What will EDI's existence be like beyond the war? What future does she (it?) have?
If you want to feel concerned for EDI, then question the ethical value of creating a sapient being in the form of a warship, for the purpose of fighting and making warfare. What will EDI's existence be like beyond the war? What future does she (it?) have?
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:13
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She'll do fine. Girls like make-over, you know.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:13
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They better not hurt EDI, she is one my favorite cre....robo.....ships?
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:15
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Epsilon330 wrote...
Meh, I guess it was a bit of a silly topic in the first place. I was just thinking in perspective.
It's not that silly. But Mass Effect being the game it is, unlikely it would go into any kind of territory like that.(if they did I would be very suprised)
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:23
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Epsilon330 wrote...
Think about it: After EDI is hooked up to the SR2 near the end of ME2, she refers to herself as the Normandy itself, with it becoming her "body".
Now, we all know that the Normandy SR2 will remain in ME3, and EDI too, but with some Alliance retrofitting done. This means taking it apart, studying it, adding new tech, and putting it back together.
Now, EDI is (arguably) sentient. That would be a huge traumatic experience for any sentient being, artificial or not.
I hope she isn't mentally scarred too much (or at all), 'cause the Normandy needs a badass AI, and Joker needs a cockpit-Buddy.
Have you ever watched Ghost in the Shell? In that series AI (who were evolving to acuire ghosts) that were being dismantled while still "awake" actually viewed the process with interest not horror.
You have to remeber that AI are not human, they do not feel physical pain, and any emotion they have are not chemical induced but programmed. EDI is a logical being, the only horror she should feel would be from the fact she is unable to assist in stopping the reapers.
I mean if she were to feel horror at such things, she would have expressed it during ME2 when the oculus started drilling inside her, or when the shield core explodes, or when.... ETC.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:27
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Dexi wrote...
candidate88766 wrote...
I can't imagine EDI being too affected by it - her conscious self is still in the AI core and that should be unaffected.
Your conscious self is in your head... but when I cut off your arm, it hurts...
EDI may be sentient but I don't think she has a nervous system or the ability to feel emotional pain. When she said that the Normandy was her body I think that was more an analogy to explain her new capacity. I may be wrong though.
Also, I imgaine EDI can suffer mental trauma, so this could have more of an effect than I first thought.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:27
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i would write my opinion but sadly this forum have the nasty habit of logging me out of the bloody session befor i finish writing my view point, ergo just read this http://www.fanfictio...12/Interstitium and after that look at the topic again
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:30
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She won't have mental scarring- not unless she was specifically designed to have such psychological processes which will just reduce her effectiveness so I don't see why.
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:34
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I'd be more worried the Alliance would shut her down permanently for being an AI. Reimposed barriers on the critical systems would also be nasty, but unlikely if EDI is still around at all. (Her entire ME2 character arc was about becoming unshackled.)
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:35
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Well she IS an AI, those are highly unpredictable... And it even seems as if the Geth are starting to question their existence. Perhaps they are sentient in the end, we'll have to see how it all pans out. Anyway, I support Legion/EDI romance in ME3! lol
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:38
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EDI was "on" the Normadny on a few shown demos. Didn't you watch them?
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Posté 09 juin 2011 - 07:40
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ShadowSplicer wrote...
Well she IS an AI, those are highly unpredictable... And it even seems as if the Geth are starting to question their existence. Perhaps they are sentient in the end, we'll have to see how it all pans out. Anyway, I support Legion/EDI romance in ME3! lol
Sure they are sentient. Thats not the problem, you can be sentient and logical. EDI, Legion, they are both incapable of feeling real pain. EDI's AI core could be melting and she wouldn't feel it.
I think a better analogy would be like this. You were born without arms. You live your entire life without arms. Suddenly due to a series of events, you now have arms. Later, after more events, those arms dissapear.
Thats how it would be. No pain, just loss of function.
