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[Recon Member]

SwobyJ wrote...
One of my greatest hopes for ME3 is that these dialogues actually MATTERED. Especially with Garrus - I felt that ME2 just gave him a character-history-wipe, and my words never mattered

This. I really hated it.

And there should also be more character banter, Not just some 'Can it wait for a bit, I'm in the middle of some calibrations'. And not just Shepard banter, there should be charatcer to character banter.

[Lady Luck]

Okay, I decided to read this now instead. Very good post, Chewin. You have indeed put a lot of effort in it. However, I have a few disagreements.

- I don't think Cerberus is being indoctrinated. I think they have joined forces with the Reapers because they want to ensure humanitys survival, and probably made a deal with the reapes.

- The Rachni and krogan will certainly not work together. Not all of the krogans are as resposible as Wrex is, and in ME2 there were already krogans that were against Wrex. So no mather what the outcome, I think you will have to choose between the Rachni or krogans.

[Recon Member]

Blue_2 wrote...

Okay, I decided to read this now instead. Very good post, Chewin. You have indeed put a lot of effort in it. However, I have a few disagreements.

- I don't think Cerberus is being indoctrinated. I think they have joined forces with the Reapers because they want to ensure humanitys survival, and probably made a deal with the reapes.

- The Rachni and krogan will certainly not work together. Not all of the krogans are as resposible as Wrex is, and in ME2 there were already krogans that were against Wrex. So no mather what the outcome, I think you will have to choose between the Rachni or krogans.

- Cerberus are indoctrinated, confirmed by Casey.

- Maybe not, but the OP gave a quite good explanation why it will work. Read it again and you know why.

[Dionkey]

My theory was a little different from yours so I'll explain. I believe every cycle the reapers come is the dawn of a new reaper. They pick the strongest civilization (this was the Turians until the Alliance destroyed Sovereign) and the strongest individual from that civilization (this was Saren but was changed to Shepard after he killed Saren and defeated Sovereign) to be inducted into the Reaper network. The Human reaper was a casing made for Shepard. The genetic goo you ask? Simply a homage to that civilization. That goo will be inside the reaper forever. Shepard was from humanity, this means he is a testament to it, he is humanity. This also corresponds with Sovereign saying "we are each a nation".

[Lady Luck]

@TheKill_3 You have a link? Otherwise I won't believe that being the truth.

[Bolboreta]

Thekill_3 wrote...

- Cerberus are indoctrinated, confirmed by Casey.

- Maybe not, but the OP gave a quite good explanation why it will work. Read it again and you know why.

Blue_2 wrote...

@TheKill_3 You have a link? Otherwise I won't believe that being the truth.

Well, I think Casey said that Cerberus is working with the reapers and in the game Shepard says that Cerberus troops are indoctrinated, but maybe there's a part of Cerberus that's not (TIM?). Or maybe they always were indoctrinated. We'll discover that when we play :happy:

[Lady Luck]

Hmm, I hardly think TIM is indoctrinated. If that is his excuse for when I'm about to kill him, I think'll still will pull the trigger

Modifié par Blue_2, 10 juin 2011 - 04:37 .

[Lord Bastinator]

When you began talking about them using Shepard's consciousness in a Reaper, an image appeared in my head. I imagined a Human Reaper tearing apart whole Reapers while chanting, "I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite store on the citadel."

[Casper DM]

My thoughts are that the rachni will counter the effects of reaper indoctrination based on the message relayed to you by the Asari on Illium.

Can watch in this vid here skip to 2:25


"When the time comes our voice will join with yours and our crescendo will burn the darkness clean"

[Lady Luck]

Casper DM wrote...

My thoughts are that the rachni will counter the effects of reaper indoctrination based on the message relayed to you by the Asari on Illium.

Can watch in this vid here skip to 2:25


"When the time comes our voice will join with yours and our crescendo will burn the darkness clean"

That's actually not a bad idea, but I think that it's more of a 'figure of speech'.

[Recon Member]

Oh BTW, Blue_2. here's the video confirming Cerberus is indoctrinated.

[Lady Luck]

Um, where? No one says that the are.

Modifié par Blue_2, 10 juin 2011 - 07:33 .

[Recon Member]

My mistake. I thought it was that one. It should be here on this video.

[Lady Luck]

Okay, now it makes sense. Pretty glad when it actually came form Liara =P

[Saber Wolf]

I've been thinking, the OP didn't say how we would defeat the reapers. I think I know how. Since we won't win them with fire power alone, I think it will have something to do with the dying sun at Haestorm. This is how I see it:

Meson gun analogue
A meson gun is a weapon that creates high energy mesons and directs them at targets. The collision of an electron and a positron creates a pi neutral meson. Mesons have short lives, which can be prolonged to precise duration by accelerating them to relativistic speeds. Range is set by varying the velocity of the mesons.

Mesons can pass through armor and matter without resistance. They do not interact significantly with other particles, and matter is therefore transparent to them. However, in a short time mesons decay into high-energy particles which do interact. If the point of decay is manipulated to occur inside the target ship, the result is high energy explosions and radiation damage. In a meson beam, the mesons travel to their target where they decay and release a large amount of energy.

Of course, such weapons will be huge, require lots of juice, will only be fitted on dreadnaught-class vessels, bla-bla-bla... therefore providing the galaxy with a fighting chance without nerfing the Reapers.

[Paragon Gabriel]

Dark energy is a known effect about e-zero technology and mass effect fields.
The Reapers are the veritable inventers, creators, and masters of mass effect technology, far in excess of the galactic standard.

While I'm not going to say Dark Energy might not be an answer to the Reapers, I'll be highly skeptical of the claim if it comes from anyone who's made a claim that we can't use Reaper technology against them because they know it better than we do.

Since, you know, the Reapers have the foundations of mass effect fields technology down pat far better than we do.

So yeah, I'm not so sure about that.

[Saber Wolf]

Maybe, but I think there's definitly more to it. I mean, we were being constantly reminded of it. Okay, maybe it won't a weapon against the reapers, but it could definitly have something to do with the reapers.

[The_Illusive]

My assumption is the out-of-control Dark Energy is a result of the Reaper cycle not activating as planned. The Reapers should be destroying people right now, however the Reapers were stopped and now we have suns dying faster than anticipated.

I assume the Reaper cycle is our "salvation" by saving the entire galaxy from dark energy, dark energy being built up by those who use the technology. However, the Reapers defend life by wiping out only the advanced species that use these technologies so that another species might eventually grow and live.

This explains the "Your salvation through destruction" thing, with the "Your" not meaning humanity / aliens but life in general. If this theory holds true, I suspect one of the biggest decisions in Mass Effect 3 would be to allow the cycle to continue as it was planned or saying "**** IT" and stopping it.


EDIT: BTW, great post Chewin;)

Modifié par The_Illusive, 10 juin 2011 - 08:46 .

[Saber Wolf]

The_Illusive wrote...

My assumption is the out-of-control Dark Energy is a result of the Reaper cycle not activating as planned. The Reapers should be destroying people right now, however the Reapers were stopped and now we have suns dying faster than anticipated.

I assume the Reaper cycle is our "salvation" by saving the entire galaxy from dark energy, dark energy being built up by those who use the technology. However, the Reapers defend life by wiping out only the advanced species that use these technologies so that another species might eventually grow and live.

This explains the "Your salvation through destruction" thing, with the "Your" not meaning humanity / aliens but life in general. If this theory holds true, I suspect one of the biggest decisions in Mass Effect 3 would be to allow the cycle to continue as it was planned or saying "**** IT" and stopping it.

Okay this makes more sense to me. It could very well be this, or maybe Harbringer only said it to annoy Shepard:P

[Casper DM]

The_Illusive wrote...

My assumption is the out-of-control Dark Energy is a result of the Reaper cycle not activating as planned. The Reapers should be destroying people right now, however the Reapers were stopped and now we have suns dying faster than anticipated.

I assume the Reaper cycle is our "salvation" by saving the entire galaxy from dark energy, dark energy being built up by those who use the technology. However, the Reapers defend life by wiping out only the advanced species that use these technologies so that another species might eventually grow and live.

This explains the "Your salvation through destruction" thing, with the "Your" not meaning humanity / aliens but life in general. If this theory holds true, I suspect one of the biggest decisions in Mass Effect 3 would be to allow the cycle to continue as it was planned or saying "**** IT" and stopping it.


EDIT: BTW, great post Chewin;)

I think "your salvation through destruction" is a reference to harvesting a species and turning them into a reaper as seen at the collector base. Killing off a species thereby preventing them from using dark energy is a possibility but unlikely when so much of the reaper tech uses it. Although that could be an extension of them leaving tech behind to influence the progression of developing species which I think they mentioned in Mass Effect 1.

[WardenKing]

Well what you just have written Chewin3 is certainly something I have been thinking about myself, but to add some of my thoughts:

We do know about the illusive man was once a family man before he became what he is in ME2, but what if the illusive man is the secret creator of the Reapers. That of course depends if they have any maker. Or perhaps the Illusive man is an ancient Prothean who has managed to survive over the years? But why make Shepard alive? And why do the Reapers want Shepard`s body, maybe there is still something to the visions Shepard got in ME1, something even he has missed. In most Trilogies we often see the main character go back to the origin, Shepard`s previous visions may have something to do with that, or there might be some more mysteries with Shepard that none had expected, maybe he is a Prothean? Just some thoughts.

Other things that I also think may happen in ME3 is that Normandy will be destroyed in the last mission, either Joker goes down with the ship to save all others or Shepard goes down with it.

If you had a relationship with Ashley in the first game and then Miranda in the second I believe there will be a confrontation there, as might there be with any other character you romanced, but as we know we have not heard much about Miranda`s situation in ME3, that may be because she helps Cerberus as a willing agent or maybe she is controlled by the Illusive Man. However if Miranda is with the Cerberus, I think there might come a point where Ashley and Miranda might fight each other, and Shepard might be forced to choose one of them.

[Whyp_2]

Okay, I finally read through your post, and here what I think about it.

I really enjoyed reading your post. It took up major impacts from ME1 and 2. Though you didn't explain on what kind of impacts these particular parts would have in ME3, which I assumed you would. You left out quite a lot of the squadmates and their loyalty missions, which will most likely have quite a major impact on ME3.
Thoguh I like the idea what you did with Ashley and Kaidan which I have never even thought about. Your speculations on how the other races would organizee themself against the reaper invasion was certainly remarkably put. But you could have speculated more on Cerberus goals, which I expected a lot from you. (Not saying what you should do).

And once again, it was a good post. but you should have included characters and their imapcts.

Cheers!

Modifié par Whyp_2, 10 juin 2011 - 05:18 .

[Legion_Geth]

No way in hell I'm gonna read this!

[Silentblaze]

While this might not be on topic I will say that was the "EASIEST TO READ" "WALL OF TEXT" I've read on here. Wall of text writers take notes!

Modifié par Silentblaze, 10 juin 2011 - 06:16 .