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[Chewin]

@Whyp_2 The reason being why I din't post anything on the squadmates in b/c there's already enough of threads with rather good speculations on them. I would probably just ended up writing the same stuff.
As for Cerberus, you didn't find it was enough? Oh, you...

Captain Eldarion wrote...
We do know about the illusive man was once a family man before he became what he is in ME2, but what if the illusive man is the secret creator of the Reapers. That of course depends if they have any maker.

TIM the creator of the Reapers? You do know that the Reapers are God knows how old. Probably even existed before the Big Bang.

Or perhaps the Illusive man is an ancient Prothean who has managed to survive over the years?

I have very hard time believing that. During the First Contact War, the Illusive Man or Jack finds a dragons
tooth (this is what the Geth used in the first game to make Husks.) This dragons tooth was a little different, the subject didn't have to get spiked to turn into a Husk, the subject just had to get close enough and this energy would hit the subject and the change would happen. As you probably now, Husks are under reaper control. The Reapers take control over the subjects body, they see what the subject sees, so in a way the Husks are Reapers. Now Jack's partner started to get zapped by the dragons tooth and was fully hit, but Jack tried to push him out of the way and got some back lash. After he got hit, his eyes changed into what we know his eyes look like today. So the Jack is really part Reaper, but hardly indoctrinated.

But why make Shepard alive? And why do the Reapers want Shepard`s body, maybe there is still something to the visions Shepard got in ME1, something even he has missed. In most Trilogies we often see the main character go back to the origin, Shepard`s previous visions may have something to do with that, or there might be some more mysteries with Shepard that none had expected, maybe he is a Prothean? Just some thoughts.

Again? You serious?

Shepard's not a Prothean. But I do agree with you that there's more to hit, as I have already said before.

Other things that I also think may happen in ME3 is that Normandy will be destroyed in the last mission, either Joker goes down with the ship to save all others or Shepard goes down with it.

Okay, the Normandy to be destroyed again really sounds out of character and too cliche to me. But I won't mind if there's a possibility that it may happen by your choice.

Legion_Geth wrote...
No way in hell I'm gonna read this!

If you're posting on a message board, an enjoyment of communicating via writing is rather implied.
And my post really ins't that long.

Modifié par Chewin3, 10 juin 2011 - 08:26 .

[Whyp_2]

No, it was enough, but It looked more like you just began to speculate. You brought up the Collector base, which was a nice view, but you left it hanging.

From my oint of view, if the Collector base does survive under Cerberus control then I can see it becoming more centralised with the base as the core of their operations. Also, as it could be considered the silver bullet for renegade players (who screwed over potential allies in the upcoming Reaper conflict) I don't think it will be left under the control of an enemy faction.

Also, as a side note, do you think the Illusive man planed the whole attack from the begining of ME2 to earn shepards trust to try and gain ahead with plans of the reapers. My point being getting the collects to attack the normandy and kill shepard, so that when Cerberus brought him back he felt like he owed them his life. Then he was given missions to stop the collectors but it was really all part of The illusive mans plan to gain the loyalty of Shepard to screw him over later, That way he wouldnt see it coming.

[Uzun]

I think the theory of yours about the Reapers is true. If they need a consciousness to transfer into Human-Reaper, it would explain why don't they indoctrinate Shepard even if they had the chance to do so (several times). They need him alive and well-functioning to transfer his mind. If he started to drool etc they wouldn't need him at all, he would be useless.

The reason why Harbinger holds back from attacking Shepard with full power might be because of that. They see Shepard "worthy of ascension" because he killed a Reaper. Maybe "ascension" they mean is related to this while "unworthy" ones are used as slaves/supplies for Reaper husks. (nice thinking OP)

Integrate Shepard's mind in that Reaper (might end up even stronger/smarter than Sovereign, might be the motive of Harbinger) and you have your vanguard of destruction back online, ready to open the gate to Reapers.

Modifié par Uzun, 11 juin 2011 - 08:02 .

[Chewin]

Whyp_2 wrote...
From my oint of view, if the Collector base does survive under Cerberus control then I can see it becoming more centralised with the base as the core of their operations. Also, as it could be considered the silver bullet for renegade players (who screwed over potential allies in the upcoming Reaper conflict) I don't think it will be left under the control of an enemy faction.

Hmm, well I do hope there might be more possibilities for Cerberus endings than just destroying it. It could lead to conflicts between Miranda and Jack, if they're allowed that is.

I beat you could have an interesting conversation with Pwener regarding this, where ever he might be...

Also, as a side note, do you think the Illusive man planed the whole attack from the begining of ME2 to earn shepards trust to try and gain ahead with plans of the reapers. My point being getting the collects to attack the normandy and kill shepard, so that when Cerberus brought him back he felt like he owed them his life. Then he was given missions to stop the collectors but it was really all part of The illusive mans plan to gain the loyalty of Shepard to screw him over later, That way he wouldnt see it coming.

I believe I already discussed this. No, he did not plan this. TIM just wants to do everything for humanity to survive, even joining with the Reapers. If it however ends up being that TIM had some sort of plan like this, then the whole idea with Cerberus has been pointless IMO.



@Uzun Yup, that's exactly what I'm referring at.

Modifié par Chewin3, 11 juin 2011 - 10:00 .

[azerSheppard]

The Krogans won't have an issue with the Rachni, rather they'd wanna squish the Salarians.

[Whyp_2]

@Chewin3 Pwener? Who's that?

Yeah, it may sound stupid, but I really don't think it's just as simple as that. TIM certainly has a plan, and probably has had one form the vert beginning. Why I think it's this complicated is because I think it cab't seriously beleive him being this easy to read. There's a cliff hanger we're gonna get from him, and I know it will be something, may it be my or yours point of view.

[The_Illusive]

Whyp_2 wrote...
Yeah, it may sound stupid, but I really don't think it's just as simple as that. TIM certainly has a plan, and probably has had one form the vert beginning. Why I think it's this complicated is because I think it cab't seriously beleive him being this easy to read. There's a cliff hanger we're gonna get from him, and I know it will be something, may it be my or yours point of view.

You make no sense.

[Whyp_2]

What I'm trying to say is that I will get really disappointed if there's no surprises. TIM is, well illusive, and that is what I wanna see in ME3. If it ends up that he just says "Yes I'm working for the Reapers, kill me or let me live".

Do you understand how incredible boring that would be? I want something that will make me say "OMG", or something like that.

[The_Illusive]

I don't now what kind of 'OMG' you want. You know, taking with you different squadmates will make the confrontasion with him different. Jack will probably go crazy when she gets to meet him, Miranda will probably have some very interesting unique dialog with him, etc etc.

And hey, really? Why wouldn't there be a surprise coming from TIM. The man stinks of secrets.

[Whyp_2]

So you think that taking different squadmember with you will change the outcome on how it's gonna end for TIM? Yeah, I don't really think so, sorry.

[The_Illusive]

You don't think so? You think that someone like Jack, Miranda and Jacob will just stand there and stay silent? Hardly.

[Whyp_2]

Yes, dialog there will be, but I hardly think you will face TIM with your squad with you. It will be a private conversation with him and Shepard.

[Tripedius]

On how to destroy the reapers, I was thinking about Chekov's guns in ME2 and maybe found another one. Haelstrom and dark energy are one, but there is also this system in the Krogan DMZ cluster with a very, very powerfull sun which was used by the Krogan to gather energy. The energy collectors are mostly gone, but they used this array to send the energy back to their home world. This sounds like a big ass gun that can harness the power of one big angry sun aka a reaper killer.
Would be nice though to make a thread will all possible foreshadowed ways to kill a or the reapers.
(maybe I'll set it up later, or just go ahead)

[Sir Edric]

Hmm, I see that you have put effort in this, Chewin. I'll give you my post when I've read it.

*grabs some coffee and starts reading*

[Chewin]

Please do, and hurry up. I'm waiting to hear your view on this.

[Sir Edric]

Okay, sorry it took so long, been busy.

First of, very well written post. I lift my hat for you. Little obvious maybe, but you wrote it with much more depth in it and took up some points that I had missed, especially with your explanations witht the Collector base and Arrival. I didn't even now that that could happen.

Though I'm a little unsure how much it would impact ME3. But Casey did say that if you didn't destroy the collector base, you had helped an enemy. He didn't say you've helped Cerberus, so I think it means that we have helped the reapers, making them possibly "stronge", 'cause there is something with that base that interests them.

I agree with your speculation on the various impacts the citadel species will have in ME3. Especially what you wrote on the turian hierarchy was interesting.

The teory on Shepard becoming a reapers sure is interesting, but I'm not so sure about it. It could work as an ending yes, the cycle reapeting itself but I don't really see any evidence on why it would happen.

[Chewin]

Well it did took you long enough. As for your one comment..

Vrex_12 wrote...
The teory on Shepard becoming a reapers sure is interesting, but I'm not so sure about it. It could work as an ending yes, the cycle reapeting itself but I don't really see any evidence on why it would happen.

Traitor! You where supposed to understand that specific subject. You of all people I thought would understand. Oh well...

Modifié par Chewin3, 02 juillet 2011 - 05:55 .