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[shinobi602]

I know it's most likely PR talk there but......every time I heard him say this I really cringed. It's the best place to start because we start at Earth and fight the war from there? How does that make it the best way to "start" the series?

"ME2 is the best place to start", now "ME3 is the best place to start".....why Casey? Why is each game supposed to be its own separate story?

Instead it should be "Yea, you can start at ME3 and you'll be brought up to speed, but you're going to miss a lot of decisions and great moments in previous games that won't show up in ME3." or something along those lines.

*sigh*

[Fiery Phoenix]

One word. Marketing.

[marshalleck]

It's better than "don't bother with ME3 if you haven't played the first two because you won't understand anything."

[shepskisaac]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

One word. Marketing.

/thread

Modifié par IsaacShep, 09 juin 2011 - 07:53 .

[roflchoppaz]

IsaacShep wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

One word. Marketing.

/thread

Money makes the world go round.

[Weiser_Cain]

Guy hates his earlier games.

[JeffZero]

PR. PR, PR, PR.

Telling the people that marketing hopes to acquire for new fans of the series that it's not the best place to start will dissuade some from bothering to get caught-up, thus reducing the total number of new fans and new sales.

They're all incredibly interconnected and we know that.

[Waltzingbear]

It's not the best place to start your Shepard at, it's the best place to be introduced to the ME universe if you haven't been yet.

[DarkSeraphym]

shinobi602 wrote...

I know it's most likely PR talk there but......every time I heard him say this I really cringed. It's the best place to start because we start at Earth and fight the war from there? How does that make it the best way to "start" the series?

"ME2 is the best place to start", now "ME3 is the best place to start".....why Casey? Why is each game supposed to be its own separate story?

Instead it should be "Yea, you can start at ME3 and you'll be brought up to speed, but you're going to miss a lot of decisions and great moments in previous games that won't show up in ME3." or something along those lines.

*sigh*

I'm not sure I understand this philosophy either. ME1 and ME2 are both still widely available and neither of them is expensive. Just do as you said and tell customers that there is a lot of important stuff they will be missing from the first two games. If they fell so inclined, they will buy them and this will mean additional sales for their previous games as well. That or offer a $70/$80 version of the game that comes with all three of them packaged together.

[shinobi602]

Waltzingbear wrote...

It's not the best place to start your Shepard at, it's the best place to be introduced to the ME universe if you haven't been yet.

No, ME1 is.

[amcnow]

I think they're trying to avoid the stigma of needing to play all three games to get the jist of the story. ME2 was successful at this. I don't see why ME3 won't be.

Mentioning people will miss out on moments in previous games is THE WORST THING they can do from a marketing perspective. Some people would not be bothered to jump into the series at that point.

[Mr.House]

It's PR, no one is that stupid to believe the last act of a trilogy is the best time to jump in.

[Savber100]

They have two options: Go telling everyone that you should spend $80 more dollars in order to understand ME3 or just start on ME3, which is supposedly the best game.

You tell me which one is the smarter thing to say in terms of marketing to newcomers.

Modifié par Savber100, 09 juin 2011 - 07:59 .

[candidate88766]

Not everyone who bought ME2 will buy ME3. They have to make up for this by telling potential customers that its not too late to join the Mass Effect bandwagon.

[Metalunatic]

marshalleck wrote...

It's better than "don't bother with ME3 if you haven't played the first two because you won't understand anything."

Yeah, we can go on a black&white scale, but maybe a middle zone would have been better? Something along these lines:

''This game is at its best if you have played the first two games and import your savegame, but we also have these comics which lets you make all the major decisions and learn about the story without having played any Mass Effect game before.''

The marketing these days makes me sick. Its outright lying to twisting facts most of the time.

EDIT. And just so we're clear I didn't mean this as an attack against Casey Hudson, just speaking of videogame marketing in general.

Modifié par Metalunatic, 09 juin 2011 - 08:06 .

[ramnozack]

like what others said marketin. If Casey would have said "buy all of my games or u want enjoy ME 3 at all" then what new costumers would that attract. BUT they could have done something like WoW where they price all previous games in the trilogy for very low prices like 5-10 bucks for ME and 10-15 for ME 2 to encourage people to play through the whole series plus they get more money that way if people actually do it (alot people joined wow when cata was released due to low costs of buying all expansions). Besides any person who is actually intrested in the series will probably want the last 2 games considering ME is story driven and Not MP driven like Call of Lame:Modern Warfail and lets not forget Call of Lame:Fail OPS

Modifié par ramnozack, 09 juin 2011 - 08:00 .

[Faust1979]

He is trying to get people to buy it that haven't played the earlier games. Bioware doesn't want people to be left out it makes sense

[syllogi]

Because if Bioware has a choice between convincing new players to buy discounted, older games, or full priced brand new games, of course they're going to want to point them to the shiny new stuff that brings in the most profit.

Also, while having strong sales of a game two or four years after launch might be admirable, it's not what EA investors are worried about. They will be looking at the sales of games produced in the recent past.

[ME-ParaShep]

Savber100 wrote...

They have two options: Go telling everyone that you should $80 more dollars in order to understand ME3 or just start on ME3, which is supposedly the best game?

You tell me which one is the smarter thing to say in terms of marketing to newcomers.

It's probably a little more than $80 if you want to understand the full scope of ME which in turn new players should download the DLC that comes with the games.

[Undertone]

shinobi602 wrote...

I know it's most likely PR talk there but......every time I heard him say this I really cringed. It's the best place to start because we start at Earth and fight the war from there? How does that make it the best way to "start" the series?

"ME2 is the best place to start", now "ME3 is the best place to start".....why Casey? Why is each game supposed to be its own separate story?

Instead it should be "Yea, you can start at ME3 and you'll be brought up to speed, but you're going to miss a lot of decisions and great moments in previous games that won't show up in ME3." or something along those lines.

*sigh*

I absolutely felt the same. I certainly hope they don't try to make ME3 as stand alone as possible just because of "new fans".

If I was starting ME games now and I heard that all the choices carry over - who in their right mind would start from ME2 or ME3? 

All my friends that I suggested the game asked if they could play ME2 without ME1 and all I said was it would be pointless since you would miss on so much and you won't have your choices transfered. All my friends agreed with me 100% after that.

That's about ME2, starting ME3 without playing the other two would be like wtf.

[Elvis_Mazur]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

One word. Marketing.

[DonDaMon]

mass effect 1 is the beginning of the series, therefore the best place to start..

[Rahmiel]

So all you people saying, "it's just marketing" are telling everyone that has not playing any mass effect game, that they have to start with Mass Effect, released in 2008. So before they can pick up and play Mass Effect 3, they have to go back 4 years and play something that doesn't play as well, or look as nice?

I'm sure everyone that loves the series, would say start from Mass Effect. As would I. It's where you build your connection, and a great introduction to the universe. But for someone that hasn't played Mass Effect at all, ME2 is the best place to start. If they really love it, get them to play ME then. Unless they're PS3 users. And when ME3 comes out, it will be the best place to start.

It's not simply marketing.

Think about music. You hear a song on the radio, or a fan vid, or in a game, commercial, wherever. You find out who it is, what the song is. You get it. Then you get the album. If you like that, you try to see what their discography is like. Would you tell people that like a song from a band, that they cannot like or get into the band's currently album without going back and listening to the band's first release? Come on now..