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[Neverwinter_Knight77]

It's the same thing that they said about ME 2, but guess what.  If you start an ME 2 game, you're pretty much in a crapsack world, on a galactic scale.  None of the optional sidequests were done, and all of the major plot decisions were done renegade-style.  The aliens hate humanity, lots of people (including Wrex) are dead, and that punk, Udina, is on the human-dominated Citadel council.

In all honesty, you're much better off starting from ME 1 and doing them all in order, but yes, it's about attracting new customers.

Not to mention... If a newcomer starts the Metal Gear Solid series with 4, he's not going to "get" all of the cool nostalgia.  If a newcomer starts Duke Nukem with Forever, he's not going to be thinking "I really missed Duke.  It's good to see him again."

I'd prefer if they made the Mass Effect games less standalone and more connected, but I guess that's business, for you.

Modifié par Neverwinter_Knight77, 09 juin 2011 - 09:16 .

[Jaron Oberyn]

matt-bassist wrote...

lol thats like watching return of the jedi first

Or Return of the King, or At the Worlds End, I could go on and on. I don't understand how someone could even contemplate going into the 3rd act of a trilogy. I know there are some people who do, but I'm curious as to why they do so.

-Polite

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...
If
you start an ME 2 game, you're pretty much in a crapsack world, on a
galactic scale.  None of the optional sidequests were done, and all of
the major plot decisions were done renegade-style.  The aliens hate
humanity, lots of people (including Wrex) are dead, and that punk,
Udina, is on the human-dominated Citadel council.

All the major things can be done easily with the Genesis comic.

That's not available to 360 without DLC.

Modifié par Neverwinter_Knight77, 09 juin 2011 - 09:44 .

[Malanek]

matt-bassist wrote...

lol thats like watching return of the jedi first

Ironically the best place to start the Star Wars movies on is actually episode 4.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Mr.House wrote...

It's PR, no one is that stupid to believe the last act of a trilogy is the best time to jump in.

I don't think this is a trilogy. Just as Halo Reach was supposed to be the last of the Halo series, now I see Halo 4: The Awakening in the works?

This is the Start of the galactic war. I don't think this is going to be resolved in one battle for earth, or earth and another planet. So this is not a trilogy. We assume that it is, but I think not.

[MegaBadExample]

Look at it. The reapers have invaded earth. EARTH! it's the best place to start.

[Fidget6]

 Yeah, I was thinking ".....Wouldn't ME1 be the best place to start?" lol.

[JadeEffect]

I've studied PR (Public Relations major), and that does not sound like a PR stunt or tactic.  Sounds more like marketing to me.

But think about it..

In ME1 all we could do is visit Luna, and get a description of Earth.
In ME2 still no access to Earth

Now ME3 we get to not only visit Earth, but start there, see how BioWare thinks Earth will look in the future, but to fight there as well..

I think people who have Earthborn Shepard's will be pleased as well as anyother Shep's of Origin

[Had-to-say]

I was struck by lightning 666 times. I have a penis the size of Manhattan.

[Savber100]

Lenimph wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

They have two options: Go telling everyone that you should spend $80 more dollars in order to understand ME3 or just start on ME3, which is supposedly the best game.
 

80$ 

Huh  

ME1 and ME2 both cost 20$

20+20=40

ME2 costs more for the ps3 but they can't even play ME on ps3 so... where the heck are you getting 80$ dollars from?! 

$20+$20+$5(Pinnacle)+$10(LOSTB+$7(Arrival)+$7(Kasumi)+$7(Overlord)= $76

I took liberties by rounding the numbers.


Of course, that will also depend on whether you bought a pre-owned or not of which you'll probably want to pay for the Cerberus Network which costs around $15.

Modifié par Savber100, 09 juin 2011 - 10:06 .

[AlexRmF]

yeah.. pretty dumb marketing message, but they want to make sure they attract new people first, because most likely, those new people that get attracted to the franchise by ME3 will buy the previous 2 games after they play the last part of the trilogy (I heard a lot of people that got started into ME by playing the 2nd game and because they enjoyed it so much, they went back and bought the first game also)
they should still revise that message however and advise the new players to try out the previous games also, because thy'll get a more complete experience... they would gain some well deserved sales, especially since we're almost 1 year from ME3's release

[Savber100]

AlexRmF wrote...

yeah.. pretty dumb marketing message, but they want to make sure they attract new people first, because most likely, those new people that get attracted to the franchise by ME3 will buy the previous 2 games after they play the last part of the trilogy (I heard a lot of people that got started into ME by playing the 2nd game and because they enjoyed it so much, they went back and bought the first game also)
they should still revise that message however and advise the new players to try out the previous games also, because thy'll get a more complete experience... they would gain some well deserved sales, especially since we're almost 1 year from ME3's release

I think it works.

My sister who wants to play ME but doesn't really have the time to play two 30+ RPGs is intrigued by the idea.

[AlexRmF]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

It's PR, no one is that stupid to believe the last act of a trilogy is the best time to jump in.

I don't think this is a trilogy. Just as Halo Reach was supposed to be the last of the Halo series, now I see Halo 4: The Awakening in the works?

This is the Start of the galactic war. I don't think this is going to be resolved in one battle for earth, or earth and another planet. So this is not a trilogy. We assume that it is, but I think not.

you're wrong.. this is bioware... they conclude things in each of their games, and if they said it's a trilogy about Shepard, that's how it will end
there will be no additional games having Shepard as the protagonist and the reapers must be dealt with some way... it's Do or Die, there can't be an enduring warB)

[AlexRmF]

Savber100 wrote...

AlexRmF wrote...

yeah.. pretty dumb marketing message, but they want to make sure they attract new people first, because most likely, those new people that get attracted to the franchise by ME3 will buy the previous 2 games after they play the last part of the trilogy (I heard a lot of people that got started into ME by playing the 2nd game and because they enjoyed it so much, they went back and bought the first game also)
they should still revise that message however and advise the new players to try out the previous games also, because thy'll get a more complete experience... they would gain some well deserved sales, especially since we're almost 1 year from ME3's release

I think it works.

My sister who wants to play ME but doesn't really have the time to play two 30+ RPGs is intrigued by the idea.

if she plays the first game, she'll make the time, believe me.. and she'll thank you in the end 

[shinobi602]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't think this is a trilogy. Just as Halo Reach was supposed to be the last of the Halo series

No it wasn't.

It was Bungie's last Halo game. They stated that.

[Savber100]

AlexRmF wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

AlexRmF wrote...

yeah.. pretty dumb marketing message, but they want to make sure they attract new people first, because most likely, those new people that get attracted to the franchise by ME3 will buy the previous 2 games after they play the last part of the trilogy (I heard a lot of people that got started into ME by playing the 2nd game and because they enjoyed it so much, they went back and bought the first game also)
they should still revise that message however and advise the new players to try out the previous games also, because thy'll get a more complete experience... they would gain some well deserved sales, especially since we're almost 1 year from ME3's release

I think it works.

My sister who wants to play ME but doesn't really have the time to play two 30+ RPGs is intrigued by the idea.

if she plays the first game, she'll make the time, believe me.. and she'll thank you in the end 

Oh she knows that. She has seen me play several times and really liked it. However, she's stingy with her time and doesn't really want to end up getting addicted (which I assured her would happen).

[Hathur]

He has to market his game so as to encourage anyone who hasn't bought ME1 & ME2 to still be willing to buy ME3 even without those 2 games.... cus.. y'know, they need / want to make money.... I know it's an alien concept to many.. but there it is.

That said... any human being who thinks jumping into a series at the end.. be it novel, film or game...  and doesn't think or realize they're missing out on something... was a waste of whatever bodily fluids were swapped to generate that specific human being.

Yeah.. you can join the series at the end of its cycle and enjoy. sure.... so long as you understand you'll never appreciate the series as if you experienced the whole thing.. and not just the end.

It's like saying: "I only watched Return of the Jedi... did I miss anything by not watching A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back?" .... Only the mentally deficient would ask themselves this. 

Modifié par Hathur, 10 juin 2011 - 12:29 .

[almighty1]

Definitely marketing. Except you'd think that marketing would be...

'Buy the first 2, if you can. It makes the whole experience a lot richer, however Mass Effect 3 will bring all players up to speed.'.

You'd think they'd do this based on wanting people to buy their other games?

[Abram730]

Doing it like the Genesis DLC makes it possible.. But far from a preferable start.

"ME3 is the best place to start"?? huh
ME1 is the best place to start.. ME2 + genesis is next up.

Perhaps Paragon, neutral, renegade videos of cut scenes and some carefully cut action to get people up to date.

[Lumikki]

Oh, when people learn. Marketing, Marketing. Sales pitch lies and so on.

Assumption to make: If someone is selling something, everyting what that person says is a lie.
If you belieave what sale person is saying, you are sucker. Perfect customer.

almighty1 wrote...

You'd think they'd do this based on wanting people to buy their other games?

They (customers) do that anyway. Meaning if they like ME3, they will buy the older games too, if not, then better sell ME3. Remember ME1 and ME2 doesn't cost much anymore, less money... money... money...

Modifié par Lumikki, 10 juin 2011 - 12:51 .

[phatpat63]

It's not marketing, it's true. Commander Shepard's previous endeavors to foil the Reapers were utterly pointless. They could have very well just made a game where Commander Shepard goes to become the first Human Spectre and the Reapers come through the Citadel relay. What's the difference?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I meant that yes, while this may be Shepard's last appearance, I don't think it's the end of the series, but then I write Russian endings to stuff.

[theSteeeeels]

Mr.House wrote...

It's PR, no one is that stupid to believe the last act of a trilogy is the best time to jump in.

so its bad pr