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[LobselVith8]

Ukki wrote...

^yes but there were only few actual uses for blood magic in combat. Spending points to it doesn´t pay up since you can get more attack/combat spells from other magic branches. Also getting the actually usefull blood magic options available you had to spend too many points before hand.

Isn't that more of an issue about game mechanics than the lore? And I've gone through Dragon Age 2 as a blood mage Hawke with a high constitution, it's not that bad.

[Uccio]

^ Considering that blood magic should be "The Power Magic" which everyone seems to fear to the bone in the game world the options available for use of it are really minor. Scorthing/controlling enemies with one spell and drawing power from either allies or dead enemies do not make it something to be afraid off. Player cannot even call those wraiths or anything remotely as bad to aid him in battle (enemies can though).

[dragonflight288]

Maybe in DA3 or the DLC's, they bring back the animate dead spell, but have a more powerful version of it in the school of blood magic. Sort of a lesser version in the school of Spirit.

EDIT: Bring in the Rage Demon!!!

Modifié par dragonflight288, 19 juin 2011 - 07:15 .

[The Baconer]

Ukki wrote...

^ Considering that blood magic should be "The Power Magic" which everyone seems to fear to the bone in the game world the options available for use of it are really minor. Scorthing/controlling enemies with one spell and drawing power from either allies or dead enemies do not make it something to be afraid off. Player cannot even call those wraiths or anything remotely as bad to aid him in battle (enemies can though).

Paralyzing Hemorrhage.

[Uccio]

^ Right. Works about few seconds even with the update. Not impressive.

If it would suck the life out of the enemy filling your characters mana and life bar while turning the enemy into a walking corps under the players command, then it would be something.

Modifié par Ukki, 19 juin 2011 - 08:09 .

[The Baconer]

Ukki wrote...

^ Right. Works about few seconds even with the update. Not impressive.

The paralysis isn't even the exciting part. It replaces Chain Lightning with the amount of damage it does to staggered mobs.

Upgraded Blood Slave also has the potential for ridiculously damaging setups.

[LobselVith8]

Ukki wrote...

^ Right. Works about few seconds even with the update. Not impressive.

What about blood slave? You can get Qunari fighting by your side using this.

[Uccio]

Nah, I´ve tried all the options with blood magic and not any of the possibilities provide the player any kind of superiority as being the "bad blood mage". As I suggested:
"If it would suck the life out of the enemy filling your characters mana and life bar while turning the enemy into a walking corps under the players command, then it would be something."
Making such options available that actually give a advantage if you want to be a terrible blood mage. This way you could live up to the games expectations.

Modifié par Ukki, 19 juin 2011 - 08:16 .

[The Baconer]

Ukki wrote...

Nah, I´ve tried all the options with blood magic and not any of the possibilities provide the player any kind of superiority as being the "bad blood mage". As I suggested:
"If it would suck the life out of the enemy filling your characters mana and life bar while turning the enemy into a walking corps under the players command, then it would be something."
Making such options available that actually give a advantage if you want to be a terrible blood mage. This way you could live up to the games expectations.

Well, despite the fact that it's a single-player game, they want to have balance between the classes instead of having another 'Dragon Mage: Origins'. Making the Blood Mage class accurate to the way it's described in the lore would make the whole game a faceroll.

[Uccio]

True, but it could also make your gameplay/choises overall harder being a blood mage and all for the balance. Storyline building you see.

Modifié par Ukki, 19 juin 2011 - 09:31 .

[dragonflight288]

Heck, maybe if you truly master blood magic (by that I mean putting in every point for the talent), have the templars hunting you nonstop or you are dealing with demons constantly...or being approached by them at the least, to make it feel like being a bloodmage isn't necessarily a good thing.

[Todd23]

Ask Anders. He used it in my Awakening, even had dialogue involving it. Plus he mentions considering lyrium smuggling. I wonder sometimes who this other grey warden named Anders in DA2 is.

[Blessed Silence]

BurstAngel75 wrote...

I just wanted to know if I'm the only one who WILL NOT touch blood magic? "Being evil is fun" is the biggest excuse people use, but I can never bring myself to play an evil character. Tried if for a few hours but all I wanted to do was stabbed the so call "hero" in the back. Not very satisfying.
People talk about blood magic as if it is nothing more that a tool to be used as long as your careful. But we are talking about life, Blood represent/is LIFE, to think that blood magic is a tool ends up using Life as a tool, whether it is your own or someone elses. Which leads to objectifying people as nothing more than a tool to use. (ie slavery)
I think the writers are very subversive with this game, seducing us into thinking that blood magic is okay (Merill) while showing examples of just how inheritly evil it truly is. People in other discussions stated that the grey warden's ritual and other examples show that blood magic can be used for good, but those are examples of "acts of desperation", not "Good". After all, from what I can tell from Ferldan's history, blood magic was the root cause of the corruption of the ancient gods, the creation of the darkspawn and the plight of the mages. I have yet to play Awakening so I don't know what answers it has provided.
So I tend to cringe at the idea of using blood magic, after all using it means that life has no value and a mage can do what ever they please.

As much as I love and adore Merri, she is the only one I ended up as a rival.

I won't use it at all.

I can't really explain why, but I am a bit dosappointed that BioWare took the clamorings of the fans from DAO and put SO MANY blood mage items in DA2.  Holy cow I'm drowning in them.  Staves, rings, amulets, robes .. you name it, it has a stat that brings up blood magic.

Even though I'm using Merrill, I refuse to let her use blood magic.

Perhaps it is a bit of a personal preference on my part, or myself coming more into the game as I see blood magic as very unclean. 

[dragonflight288]

Blood magic isn't supposed to be clean. That's why it's so controversial. It can garner the attention of demons, it allows you to control the minds of others, but it also aids you in casting spells, to the point that you no longer need the Chantry (and all strings attached) for it's monopoly on the lyrium trade.

[Uccio]

I would deffenetly use blood magic more if it would be more usefull in combat. However, other combat spells are much more effective so now I tend to put points to blood magic after other ones are being filled. For me there just isn´t anything worth while in using blood magic. For the character/gameplay it just isn´t good enough, or atleast not nearly as horrible as it is lead to believe in the game.