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How Long do you give Earth or any other planet.

Débuté par Foryou , juin 10 2011 12:18

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Medhia Nox
Posté 10 juin 2011 - 04:58

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According to wikipedia - there are over 700 million human beings in Europe which appears to be the site of the initial Reaper attack.

The Earth video claims that 2 million died in the initial attack - and 7 million by the end of the first week.

The Reapers clearly "harvest" by using Husks - or creatures like the Collectors (now gone?) They're just too large to do the harvesting themselves.

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What I want to know is why the Batarian destruction wasn't known prior to the Reaper attack of Earth?

Why are the Reapers still mythical by the time they reach Earth if they've already gobbled up the Batarian worlds.

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My "solution"? They made a bee line for Earth - and only left "some" to eat the Batarian worlds.

That would suggest that the full Reaper strength is not involved with the Harvesting of Earth.

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:02

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Medhia Nox wrote...

What I want to know is why the Batarian destruction wasn't known prior to the Reaper attack of Earth?

Why are the Reapers still mythical by the time they reach Earth if they've already gobbled up the Batarian worlds.

It's been repeatedly stated - well, implied - that the Batarian Hegemony is kind of the North Korea of 2185: seclusive, xenophobic, militarized, and very, very secretive.  If they were being attacked by Reapers, would they be screaming to the rest of the galaxy about it?  I'm leaning towards "no".

Ever play Resistance: Fall of Man?  Think of the batarians as the Russian tsarist empire in that scenario.  It kinda works.

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Medhia Nox
Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:05

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I'm not saying it's impossible... just, I don't know. There are no batarians in other parts of the galaxy wondering where the hell their homeworld went?

And - if they find out it's destroyed... there's not a single batarian that's going to freak out in front of other aliens?

And - there's not a single other species that's going to look into this claim that "the batarians are gone"?

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The batarians are universally loathed it seems - so it would stand to reason that spy networks would operate inside their space.

Why did not a single one of these report back?

How about traders?

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:15

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Medhia Nox wrote...

According to wikipedia - there are over 700 million human beings in Europe which appears to be the site of the initial Reaper attack.

The Earth video claims that 2 million died in the initial attack - and 7 million by the end of the first week.

The Reapers clearly "harvest" by using Husks - or creatures like the Collectors (now gone?) They're just too large to do the harvesting themselves.

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What I want to know is why the Batarian destruction wasn't known prior to the Reaper attack of Earth?

Why are the Reapers still mythical by the time they reach Earth if they've already gobbled up the Batarian worlds.

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My "solution"? They made a bee line for Earth - and only left "some" to eat the Batarian worlds.

That would suggest that the full Reaper strength is not involved with the Harvesting of Earth.


But the Reapers that are attacking earth already have and are releasing batarian husks as you who have to fight them at the beginning of the invasion. So that would mean that the had to harvest some batarians before the invasion of earth. And the Batarians are very secretive and isolated from the rest of the galaxy maybe thats why no info came out about them being attacked by the reapers.

Oh and it you take a loot at the little ticker tape going on in the news fortage you will see there are explosions and attacks going on around the earth as well as in Europe, but Europe may be the main part of the intial invasion. It also seems the Allaince gathered thousand of ships to the orbit of Earth to fight the Reapers so they had to know something was coming, but they were defeated and the remaining forces protecting earths solar system retreated at FTL speeds during the invasion/battle/massacre is the beginning of the battle for earth.

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:31

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Long enough for Shepard to train wreck those giant mothe-

Seriously... planets could last several years. I'm assuming of course that the Reapers don't want to leave any survivors.

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:36

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Well just survive I guess along time there could be hold outs just hiding from the reapers hoping to wait out the war. Didn't Vgil say it took the Reapers centuries to wipe out the Protheans. But military wise I'd say a few years maybe depending on the faction.

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:41

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Haristo wrote...

Rake21 wrote...

I don't know if you've noticed, but, generally in science fiction, we kick the hell out of whatever aliens try to invade.


Image IPB
Time to kick asses and chew Bubble gum 


Which reminds me

Earth: Never, we got duke. :police:

#33
Shelondias
Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:58

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Seven hours.

#34
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:19

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I would give Earth a couple of months. The Reapers are really thorough, and there goal isn't to kill everyone, but actually capture as many as possible. Even if there's 100 people hiding in caves on Earth the Reapers will still hunt them down if they know of them.

It's easy to inflict massive casualities in what is essentially a surprise attack. However once major population centers are wiped out people will begin to disperse and fight on the run. Basically the Reapers will find it easy to inflict oh say 10 million casualties the first week, but subsequent weeks that casualty rate will have to slow down as people become decentralized. It's easy to blow up a city and kill the inhabitants, much harder if you have to stop at every farm and village.

The Krogan are pretty scattered so it's hard to say. And while Turians fight to the last man, that may not be the smartest way to engage the Reapers. I'd say Humans are probably the best survivors as niether the Asari or Salarians are very strong from a martial arms standpoint. Humans employ hit an run tactics while other species do so much less. So our Sun Tzu war methodology is beneficial when fighting a stronger enemy such as the Reapers.

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:03

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Mr.House wrote...

Well we know Earth falls second(Batarians get beat first) and the Reapers continue going North. It's funny, but the last race would likely be the Quarians since they are very far north and are mobile.


Unless the Geth get them of course (they must have a massive army behind that veil)

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:08

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Reapers could totally wreck a planet and kill everyone on it in a day or so. It's what they do.

However, assuming that this is more of a siege and extraction of the tech and populace like it seems the Reapers are doing at the beginning of ME3..:

Earth/Humans - A month or two. Most defenses gone within a couple days. Holdouts and ground defenses for up to a month, stragglers for the last month. Shepard has at most a couple weeks in game story time imo.

Thessia/Asari - A couple to a few months, assuming a similar situation as with Earth. Most defenses gone within a week. Holdouts and ground defenses for a month or so, stragglers for a month or so. Things would very quickly unravel here as well, but once asari are on the run, they can be quite formidable for a good while (unlike defenseless human civilians). Biotics will only help for so long though.

Palavan/Turian - Assuming that an evac *doesn't* happen, I give it a few months. Organization and diligence will last longer, but fleets and infrastructure may only give up to another weeks worth of time for people. It will be a fierce and brutal fight, and basically Earth x2 or even x5 in terms of struggle. However, once it looks like things are truly lost, even though they'll fight to the last man... once morale is gone, it's *over*. The asari could flee and go their crazy survival stuff to a point, but the turians NEED their community, structure, and fellowship in some form, or they feel rather lost. (Garrus is an exception, not the rule) A quick fold and bulldozing by Reapers after a couple months.

Sur'Kesh/Salarian - Defenses quickly overrun. Mass casualties. Some good strongholds however, and I'm sure strategic areas could be defended for a while... but otherwise, a quick doom. Stragglers have no chance.

Khar'Shan/Batarian - Assuming that they haven't all died already lol... I'd say roughly the same time as earth, except with a different experience involved. The Reapers may not care though, and just turn the planet to glass.

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:14

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Elcor - Quick doom.
Drell/Hanar - Quick doom.
Volus - Quick doom.

Rannoch/Geth? - If Geth have a strong presence put on there, it can be a real fight. The geth will lose, sure, but a lot of the advantages that Reapers have, won't be in play here. In some ways a war of attrition, which after a few strong victories, the Reapers will easily destroy them. Just need to destroy the hub ships/bases for the platforms.. and it all falls apart. Still, this is a good struggle, if the Reapers' intentions were to destroy all traces of the geth.

Quarians/Flotilla - Oh boy. Goners.

Tuchanka/Krogan remnants - They'll be fighters, but one...after another...after another clan...etc... they'll fall. A month tops. If they had their former numbers and weaponry/transport/tech, they'd be a hell of a force to contend with though.

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:38

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When Reapers invaded Protheans they got all the data on them from the Citadel computers, and it still took decades to exterminate them. And that was just one species. This time it would take also decades if not a bit more. Excluding the destruction of the biggest urban centers on every attacked homeworld you would still at the end of the game have 30-40% of surviving planetary populations. And that is a pessimistic estimation. Remember, genocide is a time and resource consuming process, especially galaxy wide one.

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:58

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Grumpy young man wrote...

When Reapers invaded Protheans they got all the data on them from the Citadel computers, and it still took decades to exterminate them. And that was just one species. This time it would take also decades if not a bit more. Excluding the destruction of the biggest urban centers on every attacked homeworld you would still at the end of the game have 30-40% of surviving planetary populations. And that is a pessimistic estimation. Remember, genocide is a time and resource consuming process, especially galaxy wide one.


Exactly. Eliminating planetary defenses is super duper easy (as we see them doing to Earth). Eliminating/Reaping urban centers and capital planets is pretty damn easy. Fighting in space is simple. What takes so much time for them is the tracking down of survivors and covering up as many traces of civilization as possible.
But when it gets to that point, the galaxy has already lost :(
SO!!, we need to stop the Reapers before it gets to that point :)

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 08:09

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What I want to know is why the Batarian destruction wasn't known prior to the Reaper attack of Earth?

Why are the Reapers still mythical by the time they reach Earth if they've already gobbled up the Batarian worlds.


They probably know about the Batarian struggle against 'a large force or dreadnaught size vessels' but no one is going to bother checking on/helping the batarians.

Humans helping batarians? Erm no way
Asari/Turians/Salarians helping batarians? They won't even help their fellow council race, much less help the Batarians. Besides, to the universe at large, the reapers don't even exist, I assume this also won't help the batarians much..

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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 04:39

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The Geth I give a few hours they are machines and machines can be hacked by super machines
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