Remember in ME2 after just 2 years of being dead you are revived and join a terrorist organization and even though it seems arbitrary the Reapers are “harvesting” the humans from every idiot riddled colony with poor extra-net connection. Although the story line may be weak the Collectors specifically want you Shepard. Although it was explained that the Collectors tried to buy you from the Shadow Broker, Liara saved you. Per delivery to Cerberus you were bio-engineered back to life with additional cybernetics. Could these implants be from Reaper origin, Cerberus has infused Reaper Technology with humans, e.g. Paul Grayson. Could the Collects want Shepard not only for destroying the war-figure that united the races against the vanguard reaper “Sovereign” a.k.a. “Nazara” but to see what affect their technology has humans. It’s just a thought but could the IM have something else up his sleeve by having Reaper technology installed into Commander Shepard?
Commander Shepard infused with Reaper Technology
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 04:58
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Well considering EDI says she has reaper tech used in her I always assumed TIM was generous and extended that to shep. Sense no one familiar with the project wants to tell shep what went into him and shep is an idiot and has no sense to ask for details.
My theory is after shep died TIM figured out or had preplanned before shep died to get shep and turn him into a cyborg with the purpose of making him bait for the reapers.
I think Tim put in the chip and told shep he was the same so shep himself believes it. TIM plans to have the reapers take shep via hacking or indoctrination by proxy and after a time turn on the control chip. The idea being that tim can tell shep to do things to sabotage the reapers or make shep fail at task given to him by the reapers if TIM decides the target shep is after is a hands off type of deal mainly of human/his interst.
I think in ME3 TIM finds out the chip won't work shep can't have two masters so he needs to get him back tear him open and figure out how to fix him before the reapers get him.
My theory is after shep died TIM figured out or had preplanned before shep died to get shep and turn him into a cyborg with the purpose of making him bait for the reapers.
I think Tim put in the chip and told shep he was the same so shep himself believes it. TIM plans to have the reapers take shep via hacking or indoctrination by proxy and after a time turn on the control chip. The idea being that tim can tell shep to do things to sabotage the reapers or make shep fail at task given to him by the reapers if TIM decides the target shep is after is a hands off type of deal mainly of human/his interst.
I think in ME3 TIM finds out the chip won't work shep can't have two masters so he needs to get him back tear him open and figure out how to fix him before the reapers get him.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:00
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That would be interesting twist, reaper tech in Shepard allows the IM to assume direct control of Shepard. Shep goes through the Normandy killing crew mate after crew mate... You play as Joker and kill Shepard... sorry maybe that was a little out there.
Honestly I don't think they used Reaper tech. It seems like if you had a romance with Miranda she'd mention to you if Cerberus used reaper tech in reconstructing you.
Honestly I don't think they used Reaper tech. It seems like if you had a romance with Miranda she'd mention to you if Cerberus used reaper tech in reconstructing you.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:02
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Oops, my mistake.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:08
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It’s a fascinating idea that probably won’t be brought back up, but I really hope that all the development Bioware and the lead designers and writers have put in will be for the story’s purpose and for long-devoted fans, not to rake in the money.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:08
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When exactly was this mentioned? I can't seem to recall anything about Reaper tech being built into Shepard.SilentNukee wrote...
They did use Reaper tech to reconstruct him/her, EDI mentions it. Is that going to backfire on us? Probably.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:30
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The problem with 'reaper tech' is that everyone just assumes so much about it, partially because there's no real lore on this part. I highly doubt every piece of reaper technology is capable of indoctrination and other 'assuming direct control' functions. As far as I'm concerned, reaper tech is just very advanced, but serves the same purpose as the alliance or cerberus technology, only better.
This is why I'm also not concerned with the reapers doing to Shepard what Sovereign did to Saren, that seemed to be special technology to improve the effects of indoctrination upon Saren.
This is why I'm also not concerned with the reapers doing to Shepard what Sovereign did to Saren, that seemed to be special technology to improve the effects of indoctrination upon Saren.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:56
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My friend and I have played ME2 quite a few times (I even now checked the mass effect wiki to make sure) and I can not find anywhere where EDI says Shep has Reaper tech in her/him.
Someone post a video or it's not real. . .
Someone post a video or it's not real. . .
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:00
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WTF when? That's just great.SilentNukee wrote...
They did use Reaper tech to reconstruct him/her, EDI mentions it. Is that going to backfire on us? Probably.
Shepard: Time to save the ear- ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:05
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Wow, imagine if Garrus ends up putting Shep out of his misery after Harbinger ASSUMES DIRECT CONTROL. Worst ending ever.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:10
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Erm, lemme see if I can find it anywhere. :S
Edit: Ok apparently she doesn't tell Shep that, EDI herself is made from parts of Sovereign. (This is after the abduction.)
My mistake. D:
Edit: Ok apparently she doesn't tell Shep that, EDI herself is made from parts of Sovereign. (This is after the abduction.)
My mistake. D:
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:13
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SilentNukee wrote...
They did use Reaper tech to reconstruct him/her, EDI mentions it. Is that going to backfire on us? Probably.
EDI does not mention such a thing. You probably mixed it up with EDI being based on reaper tech.
Modifié par Teknor, 10 juin 2011 - 06:13 .
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:16
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Teknor wrote...
SilentNukee wrote...
They did use Reaper tech to reconstruct him/her, EDI mentions it. Is that going to backfire on us? Probably.
EDI does not mention such a thing. You probably mixed it up with EDI being based on reaper tech.
Yep, indeed. =/
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:22
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Well, in Overlord Shepard gets hacked by the AI.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:23
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xI extremist Ix wrote...
Well, in Overlord Shepard gets hacked by the AI.
It's because Overlord tech is specifically designed to be interfacable with humans.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 06:59
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Morinth romance has a new contender!Dasher1010 wrote...
Wow, imagine if Garrus ends up putting Shep out of his misery after Harbinger ASSUMES DIRECT CONTROL. Worst ending ever.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:25
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Teknor wrote...
xI extremist Ix wrote...
Well, in Overlord Shepard gets hacked by the AI.
It's because Overlord tech is specifically designed to be interfacable with humans.
And glad I am to have shut down that project. Wouldn't want Cerberus to have acces to this kind of technology in ME3 would we?
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:26
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I think there's a possibility that there's more to this then we asume.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:33
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thats why i fixed my face and got all implants taken out as soon as possible......dont trust Cerberus
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:42
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If they had magic reaper tech that could bring Shepard back, they wouldn't have needed to spend 2 years and billions of credits hiring medical geniuses to put him/her back together. Also, it's kind of hard to imagine how they could've gotten tech that could be repurposed for medical tech for a human from Sovereign. They were able to build basically a Reaper AI, sure, but that was more of a direct copy of tech they had obtained.
If Shepard had a control chip, the Illusive man would've taken advantage of it when paragon Shepard decides to destroy the base. Also remember the control chip was Miranda's idea, and she states that the Illusive man wouldn't let her do it.
Also remember that the Illusive man doesn't know exactly what the Collectors are doing with the humans. He states this at the beginning of ME2, right after Freedom's progress. He might have his suspicions at that point, but he wouldn't have any idea prior to Shepard gaining Veetor's data. That's already well after Shepard's revived. TIM's motives for bringing Shepard back are as simple as this: the Reapers are targetting humans, and Shepard is the most successful at fighting them.
If he knew he would've had access to major Reaper tech, he would've used a loyal follower like Miranda to recover it for him. It would've been far less expensive and risky. He wouldn't have potentially wasted all the time, money and effort to bring Shepard back, especially if he would've needed some kind of insurance, like a control chip.
I think the larger concern for having Shepard implanted with Reaper tech is from Arrival. It's an unavoidable event where Shepard is unconcious for 2 days while being surrounded by indoctrinated Reaper followers. They could've loaded Shep's brain with all kinds of bad things in that time. In that case, there's 2 reasons Shepard might still be ok. First, is that they were struggling to keep Shepard KO'd. Shepard is beyond perfect physically, so they had to keep loading him/her with sedatives just to keep him/her from waking up and tearing people apart with his/her bare hands... which happened anyway. The point is, it would've been nearly impossible to perform an operation in those circumstances.
Secondly, the only Reaper tech on the asteroid was the artifact, Object Rho, which definitely did not indoctrinate Shepard. They did not have any other traditional means of indoctrination, so Shepard is likely safe. Furthermore, the artifact is destroyed and Shepard is fine after the DLC.
If Shepard were to ever fall under Reaper control, it would likely be due to events that occur exclusively in ME3.
If Shepard had a control chip, the Illusive man would've taken advantage of it when paragon Shepard decides to destroy the base. Also remember the control chip was Miranda's idea, and she states that the Illusive man wouldn't let her do it.
Also remember that the Illusive man doesn't know exactly what the Collectors are doing with the humans. He states this at the beginning of ME2, right after Freedom's progress. He might have his suspicions at that point, but he wouldn't have any idea prior to Shepard gaining Veetor's data. That's already well after Shepard's revived. TIM's motives for bringing Shepard back are as simple as this: the Reapers are targetting humans, and Shepard is the most successful at fighting them.
If he knew he would've had access to major Reaper tech, he would've used a loyal follower like Miranda to recover it for him. It would've been far less expensive and risky. He wouldn't have potentially wasted all the time, money and effort to bring Shepard back, especially if he would've needed some kind of insurance, like a control chip.
I think the larger concern for having Shepard implanted with Reaper tech is from Arrival. It's an unavoidable event where Shepard is unconcious for 2 days while being surrounded by indoctrinated Reaper followers. They could've loaded Shep's brain with all kinds of bad things in that time. In that case, there's 2 reasons Shepard might still be ok. First, is that they were struggling to keep Shepard KO'd. Shepard is beyond perfect physically, so they had to keep loading him/her with sedatives just to keep him/her from waking up and tearing people apart with his/her bare hands... which happened anyway. The point is, it would've been nearly impossible to perform an operation in those circumstances.
Secondly, the only Reaper tech on the asteroid was the artifact, Object Rho, which definitely did not indoctrinate Shepard. They did not have any other traditional means of indoctrination, so Shepard is likely safe. Furthermore, the artifact is destroyed and Shepard is fine after the DLC.
If Shepard were to ever fall under Reaper control, it would likely be due to events that occur exclusively in ME3.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:19
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Considering what happened to Grayson when they put Reaper tech in him, I doubt it.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 10:10
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Teknor wrote...
xI extremist Ix wrote...
Well, in Overlord Shepard gets hacked by the AI.
It's because Overlord tech is specifically designed to be interfacable with humans.
So somehow an AI (Computer) can hack the human brain without cybernetics? I doubt that. Shepard's eye balls were glowing.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 10:13
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Now that I think about it, it seems that Overlord was kind of a project that would have ended up in creating a Human version of indoctrination and Reaper tech...The only difference being in that it was made from scratch by Humans.Robhuzz wrote...
Teknor wrote...
xI extremist Ix wrote...
Well, in Overlord Shepard gets hacked by the AI.
It's because Overlord tech is specifically designed to be interfacable with humans.
And glad I am to have shut down that project. Wouldn't want Cerberus to have acces to this kind of technology in ME3 would we?
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 10:14
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Here's my interpretation:
Physically, Shepard couldn't have moved out of the room, so he didn't. His perception was hacked and he was in some kind of virtual reality. Otherwise, he did not lose control of himself. Up to the point where the VI complex was shot, what he perceived did not represent any material reality.
As for how he was hacked, we can see it was through his omnitool. That would imply that this omnitool is somehow connected to the senses, for instance for targeting assistance or suchlike. What we don't know is whether the cybernetic implants needed for that were added in the course of his coming back to life, or are some sort of standard feature of high-level Alliance soldiers or operatives.
Physically, Shepard couldn't have moved out of the room, so he didn't. His perception was hacked and he was in some kind of virtual reality. Otherwise, he did not lose control of himself. Up to the point where the VI complex was shot, what he perceived did not represent any material reality.
As for how he was hacked, we can see it was through his omnitool. That would imply that this omnitool is somehow connected to the senses, for instance for targeting assistance or suchlike. What we don't know is whether the cybernetic implants needed for that were added in the course of his coming back to life, or are some sort of standard feature of high-level Alliance soldiers or operatives.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 10:15
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Honestly, I think Reaper tech is overrated. It's just an extremely large AI controlled ship. The Turians were able to create the Thanix cannon in several years. Any ship that big is bound to be super powerful. It's bigger than the Destiny Ascension. The whole thing with the human slurry is what makes them seem so mystical.
