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It's an implied death. It's not like you see his body disintegrate.

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Young "Ani"?

A.k.a. the disaster known as 9 years old Lord Vader in Phantom Menace :P


Ooooo :)  But what happened to his mother in the end...

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Maybe he will go all 'home alone' on the reapers and aid Shepard on his mission.
Kid for permanent squadmate in ME3


A succefully saved and (immediately or in a couple of missions) returned to his parents kid - this could be a good and positively emotional move.  But not a dead kid. Never thought I'd want content removed from Mass Effect.


Millions of dead kids with a Reaper invasion anyway. You just don't want to see his ship hit.


Exactly

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_purifico_ wrote...

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SPOILER






Yes, he dies. In an extended demo which most people didn't see, you see him entering a shuttle and then a reaper blowing it up.

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1174904p1.html


Ah, but did you see the body? You know how it is: no body found - 100% chance he'll return =)


You forget that this is Mass Effect. The only charred body that will be brought back to life is Shepard's. Everyone else gets to stay extra crispy.

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Will see ship crashing with kind inside and then later on, the kid shows up in Shepard's private quarters and the latter is accused of being a pedophile.

Everything will be good though, since the kid is actually some sorte of mini-human Reaper.

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Will see ship crashing with kind inside and then later on, the kid shows up in Shepard's private quarters and the latter is accused of being a pedophile.

Everything will be good though, since the kid is actually some sorte of mini-human Reaper.


I'll pass :D

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The kid dies 30 days later from thirst.

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GAH!!!!! SHOULDNT HAVE READ THIS THREAD NOW!!!!

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This is exactly the kind of tragedy I was hoping for in ME3... Rather than simply knowing the galaxy is falling apart, moments like these make you feel it is falling apart. This is a good thing, in my view. It makes me feel more emotionally connected to the story - and if the rest of the game continues to be this good, then this means I might actually experience some emotional impact once the game is over, which is something I've only really experienced from a few films/books. If ME3 can do that for me, then it'll be pretty groundbreaking for a game.

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This is exactly the kind of tragedy I was hoping for in ME3... Rather than simply knowing the galaxy is falling apart, moments like these make you feel it is falling apart. This is a good thing, in my view. It makes me feel more emotionally connected to the story - and if the rest of the game continues to be this good, then this means I might actually experience some emotional impact once the game is over, which is something I've only really experienced from a few films/books. If ME3 can do that for me, then it'll be pretty groundbreaking for a game.


No. Dead children is a wrong thing.

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I just don't want the kid his death be inevitable, If I get the chance to save him by throwing out Ashley, you bet I'll do it.. Do not let kids die, ever. They did the same in the movie 'The Losers', I hated that part of the movie to see all those kids just die

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IsaacShep wrote...

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Young "Ani"?

A.k.a. the disaster known as 9 years old Lord Vader in Phantom Menace :P


By God don't remind me. I didn't mind those movies, but I would've loved them had, ironically, the main character not been in them. Although really anything up to Vader's first wheezy breath in RotS was torture... Personal opinion but yeah. I had to bury myself in Heir to the Empire to remind myself SW can be awesome...

As for dying kids in videogames, I don't see why not. If anything, situations like Fable where kids aren't killable but adults are strikes me as absurd. Not because I want to watch kids die but because it kicks you right out of the scene when Evil McSmitey hacks at a little girl with his Sword of Unbearable Agony +100 and only gets a squealy giggle and the line 'you're funny' in response.

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I don't care if kids die, I just wouldn't want to see it happen. Dead, and lying on the ground is fine, but a burning corpse that's still alive running around that's a child, seems a little to much.

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I don't mind, I would rather BioWare show the horrors of war than avoid them. ME2 was meant to be a dark and twisted middle entry where you see the worst of sentient life. Yet you hardly hear anything or see anything related, such as slavery, murder, rape, trafficking, and other inhumane acts.
I want BioWare to show the tragedy and the loss.

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xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I don't mind, I would rather BioWare show the horrors of war than avoid them. ME2 was meant to be a dark and twisted middle entry where you see the worst of sentient life. Yet you hardly hear anything or see anything related, such as slavery, murder, rape, trafficking, and other inhumane acts.
I want BioWare to show the tragedy and the loss.


Well, there was the Batarian thing for slavery. A lot of things are hinted at. For example, picking apart Jack's monologues points to some pretty horrific stuff. I actually respected Bioware for not shoving it in peoples' faces like some games might.

In many cases merely alluding to something is much worse than actually seeing it, because your mind invents a scenario based on the information that is tailor-made to suit what you find disturbing about the hints. If it's shown, you can watch it and get over it. Imagination of the audience is the greatest tool a storyteller can have.

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Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

I think it might have been in the Fall of Earth trailer.


I just saw it. It showed two adults rushing into that drop ship. It wasn't the kid.

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This is exactly the kind of tragedy I was hoping for in ME3... Rather than simply knowing the galaxy is falling apart, moments like these make you feel it is falling apart. This is a good thing, in my view. It makes me feel more emotionally connected to the story - and if the rest of the game continues to be this good, then this means I might actually experience some emotional impact once the game is over, which is something I've only really experienced from a few films/books. If ME3 can do that for me, then it'll be pretty groundbreaking for a game.


No. Dead children is a wrong thing.


Huh? I wasn't literally saying dead children was a good thing in real life :/.  For starters I was talking about storytelling and how moments like the one described by the IGN writer are a good thing for invoking an emotional response in the audience.

With regards to points made that showing too much is bad: it's not as if it's so visceral that you actually see the boy burning to death.  According to the IGN article, the door on the shuttle closes once the boy is inside, THEN the shuttle is destroyed.  That's shocking enough that it's moving, but it's not gratuitous to the point where it just feels saturated. 

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I hope some of you never read literature - the themes in those scary books sometimes involve bad things happening to children. I recommend keeping far away from "The Road" specifically.

So - you want to be badass Shepard tooling around the galaxy killing THOUSANDS of people. Fathers and mothers... sisters and brothers... (Oh, but of course they were all bad). But suddenly a little kid shows up and you're all innocent - and the implication is just appalling?

I want a face to this war... the little kid, yeah - I'm fighting the Reapers for him. For him and the millions of children I don't save... humans and aliens.

Just being a bad ass grown up tooling around the galaxy fighting other bad ass grown ups and monsters... that's a juvenile tale, and one only marginally worth playing. Having a story with some genuine gravitas... I look forward to that in any RPG.

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Dead kid as LI

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Oh, now that's edgy...

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Wow Bioware is killing babies now?What a huge fail. This is why Gears >

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InviolateNK wrote...

No. Dead children is a wrong thing.


Reapers invading, hundreds of thousands are supposed to be dead, and you're saying that dead children is a wrong thing..okay..

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Honestly who cares about this kid?

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Uh oh... a hard ass has entered the conversation.

Hard ass Shepard don't care 'bout nobody!

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To all the people freaking out about the kid dying, you're being ridiculous. Did you know that about 15 000 kids die of starvation/dehydration EVERY DAY.

The point is, it's a war people die including children it sucks but it's true. Bioware isn't going to show the kid running around being slowly burnt to death so what's the problem? You don't even see the kid die, and it's a great emotional anchor that will make the reaper war all the more personal for you.

Besides that's nothing compared to what actually happens to some kids in real life, did you know that sometimes, people will put a bomb under a child shirt, and send said child into a group of enemy soldiers to blow them up, the kid is just a kid, so he/she wouldn't even know that what they are carrying is a bomb.

Seriously everyone here saying that children shouldn't die are pretty much pluging their fingers into their ears and going lalalala, wake up. This is an M rated game about a a bunch of machines that are trying to exterminate every sentient being INCLUDING CHILDREN for ****'s sake. What they are showing is nothing, absolutely NOTHING compared to what millions of human children have went through thoughout humanities history.

Modifié par bushes289, 12 juin 2011 - 02:58 .