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Funkcase wrote...


I wouldn't put it past EA to allow that, have you played Dead space 2? Where you have to kill alien kids and babys, I felt so wrong fighting them.


Considering all enemies are former people, and not in the T-Reaper sense, it felt wrong to fight most things in that game. But Shepard´s fight or die motto really applied there.

But yeah, if you start watching children die you know the stakes are high and they aren´t likley to pull player punches. People are worrying Reapers will be defeated without a high cost, but millions are already dying by the millions galaxy wide before we even start fighting back.

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This is exactly the kind of tragedy I was hoping for in ME3... Rather than simply knowing the galaxy is falling apart, moments like these make you feel it is falling apart. This is a good thing, in my view. It makes me feel more emotionally connected to the story - and if the rest of the game continues to be this good, then this means I might actually experience some emotional impact once the game is over, which is something I've only really experienced from a few films/books. If ME3 can do that for me, then it'll be pretty groundbreaking for a game.


No. Dead children is a wrong thing.


Clearly you've never had any sitting behind you on an 8 hour flight.


Now that's a serious point B)

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The kid was a figment of Shepard's imagination- Shepard is ***SPOILER ALERT*** indoctrinated.

Note how he mysteriously vanishes after Shepard briefly looks away.


As cliché as that would be,I honestly wouldn't be surprised.

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Lady Catastrophe wrote...

Bad King wrote...

The kid was a figment of Shepard's imagination- Shepard is ***SPOILER ALERT*** indoctrinated.

Note how he mysteriously vanishes after Shepard briefly looks away.


As cliché as that would be,I honestly wouldn't be surprised.


tat is why Cerberus is trying to kill him.

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so what if some kid gets killed we kill enough of the in dead space 2.

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The kid is a hallucination, from beginning till the end. When Shepard was staring at that Alliance ship, his consciousness, his mind has been hoping to see that kid escaping. And virtually he did see that. That's why the kid was the last one to enter on board. It doesn't make much sense since all we know that "women and children go first", right?
But the moment when a Reaper destroyed the ship was definitely real. In-game.

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I just don't want the kid his death be inevitable, If I get the chance to save him by throwing out Ashley, you bet I'll do it.. Do not let kids die, ever. They did the same in the movie 'The Losers', I hated that part of the movie to see all those kids just die


No one wants the kid to die (well, except for the sociopathic players), but that's the gravity of the situation.  If the writers want to me to feel that everyone is facing extinction then they can't have an unspoken rule that makes children immune.  If that child can die, then everyone can; no one is safe.  That is the whole point; seeing the shuttle destroyed is supposed to instill a sense of how utterly hopeless and in danger everyone is.  It's not for cheap thrills; quite the opposite - it's supposed to tug your heart strings and make you more emotionally connected to the situation precisely because you don't want the child to die.

With regards to the same thing happening in "The Losers"; well, there you go... it's The Losers :P; it's not exactly Schindler's List (*thinks of the girl in the red coat*).  There are different ways of executing this type of tragedy; time will tell if they pull it off and create something moving with ME3.

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Noooo! We should have been able to save him. Shepard can do so many epic things, but not save some 9-year old? D:

I hope there will be more kids in ME3.

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You know ive been thinking that this kid is in Shepard's head like his seeing himself in the vent thinking how kids will be shaped by this Reaper assault. So in that being said i wouldnt be surprised if the kid was a little girl for female Shepards.

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Shut up and find me the video.

Modifié par omgodzilla, 13 juin 2011 - 05:21 .


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I thought the presentation was brilliant and moving, especially with the score. I didn't expect that kid to blow up, tbh. This should be the best intro yet.

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I'm just sad that he was the only kid in the known universe...

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In some way, it's kind of nice that there are people here who will be severely emotionally moved by the death of the child. I was shocked and briefly regretful but I was in the Shepard mindset of: "it's war and we can't save everyone... now lets go avenge that poor kid!" (however, when the Reaper fried the kid, I was also thinking: "if you'd just listened to Shepard in the air duct, you'd probably be alive right now")

Some people here are not as desensitized to the death of a kid, which might make the game more emotionally involving for them. I'm a bit jealous of those who haven't lost so much of their innocence. :)

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AwesomeName wrote...

Mathy16 wrote...

I just don't want the kid his death be inevitable, If I get the chance to save him by throwing out Ashley, you bet I'll do it.. Do not let kids die, ever. They did the same in the movie 'The Losers', I hated that part of the movie to see all those kids just die


No one wants the kid to die (well, except for the sociopathic players), but that's the gravity of the situation.  If the writers want to me to feel that everyone is facing extinction then they can't have an unspoken rule that makes children immune.  If that child can die, then everyone can; no one is safe.  That is the whole point; seeing the shuttle destroyed is supposed to instill a sense of how utterly hopeless and in danger everyone is.  It's not for cheap thrills; quite the opposite - it's supposed to tug your heart strings and make you more emotionally connected to the situation precisely because you don't want the child to die.

With regards to the same thing happening in "The Losers"; well, there you go... it's The Losers :P; it's not exactly Schindler's List (*thinks of the girl in the red coat*).  There are different ways of executing this type of tragedy; time will tell if they pull it off and create something moving with ME3.


Reaper 1: You mortals can not comprehend our power *aiming laser*
Reaper 2: Wait, there is a child in there midst. Aim at that childless group over there.
Reaper 1: I should have never taken Harbinger up on his bet on who could kill the least children.

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InviolateNK wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

This is exactly the kind of tragedy I was hoping for in ME3... Rather than simply knowing the galaxy is falling apart, moments like these make you feel it is falling apart. This is a good thing, in my view. It makes me feel more emotionally connected to the story - and if the rest of the game continues to be this good, then this means I might actually experience some emotional impact once the game is over, which is something I've only really experienced from a few films/books. If ME3 can do that for me, then it'll be pretty groundbreaking for a game.


No. Dead children is a wrong thing.


People die in war. Kids too.

IF you don't want to show that off, then you're not showing war properly.

Take it like a man.

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InviolateNK wrote...

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No. Dead children is a wrong thing.


Reapers invading, hundreds of thousands are supposed to be dead, and you're saying that dead children is a wrong thing..okay..


Yep, Im saying so. I know that people of all ages will die during the reaper's invasion. But adult people is one thing, kids is another. In ME 2 Shepard had a choice: let a silly teenager get killed by Archangel or not. At least we must have a similiar choice, though I believe this is a basically wrong way to get renegade/paragon points.

ME is not a documentary and creating an episode where a kid dies, whether we get to see his body or not, it's really kinda sick.



Oh, get over yourself, seriously.

War sucks.  A lot.  People die in war - babies, the elderly, poor defensless animals - they're no exceptions.  I'm not saying that BioWare should show infants dying left and right, but you can't just say "Too much, too much" when they do show it.

But hey, you seem to be aware of the fact that children ARE dying in ME3, you just don't want them to show it.  So basically it's OK that kids are dying somewhere out there, but god forbid they show you that and make you feel bad, right?  Jeez.

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You can see the kid die in one of the beta leak videos.

Name's "A Look at the Mass Effect 3 Beta Campaign Intro."

Kid dies at 22:18.

The link is here. Don't know if i can post it here; tell me quickly if i can't:
Also, MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS


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Jayman1337 wrote...

I'd kill a human before touching a dog.


I'd kill humanity before touching a dog.B)

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Why didn't you guys complain about David in Overlord?

Not only was that over the top, but it was also unnecessarily over-the-top.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Why didn't you guys complain about David in Overlord?

Not only was that over the top, but it was also unnecessarily over-the-top.


David case was very impressive ... in Both decisions he will be OK (better than be in the center of Rogue VI-AI).

Modifié par Jedi Sentinel Arian, 04 février 2012 - 08:14 .


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I meant the all the a tubing ,needles, hanging in the air, eyes held open, do-it-for-shock-value thing.

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i thought that kid was just shepard's imagination. when the kid gets on the evac shuttle the soldiers dont even help him up., in all the war movies the soldiers help the kids onto the evac shuttles

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SPOILER DO NOT HIGHLIGHT UNLESS YOU WANT TO KNOW!!

You see him climb aboard an Alliance Shuttle and then that Alliance Shuttle is blasted to pieces. He's dead, and you see Shepard clearly angered by it.

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Know what?

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I have a video of the kid's fate. Entire earth demo infact. PM me for link.