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#26
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bleetman wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

The save game editor for ME2 has a check mark for the Bring Down The Sky DLC... So it does in fact carry over. How big of a deal it is, we'll have to see.


I think it's only carried over if you let Balak go. If you kill him/capture him nothing seems to carry over unfortunately.


You hear a news report about the hostages that died in that case.

Not exactly a whirlwind of exciting consequences, but it's there.


That's the default report- the same report happens even if you never played Bring down the sky.

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I kinda hope he turns up. You shoot your way through a group of Batarians and in the aftermath Shepard recognises one of the corpses: 'tis Ballak; Shep points out he/she knew the dude and moves on without further comment.

The guy deserves nothing more than an ignominious death with no fanfare.

Either that or he has been turned into a Cannibal. Which you can then blow up. :>

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Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D

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Ballak should get along with Shep just fine, since they are both terrorists now. lol The only difference is that Shepard succeeded, while Ballak failed and fled (in my game).


All kidding aside, it would make an interesting confrontation in the game. What Shep did and what Balak did are eerily similar. Conincidence? Possibly not. It could set the stage for a "Don't you dare judge me" confrontation ala LotSB.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D


I really hate these radical Renegades.

It's called finishing the job.

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GreenDragon37 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D


I really hate these radical Renegades.

It's called finishing the job.


You should have earlier :P, nah honestly I dont care but I would like to see some consequence for letting him go.

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I hope so. He was awesome. It'd be super cool if Charn came back as a squadmate or just a conversation character.

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theelementslayer wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D


I really hate these radical Renegades.

It's called finishing the job.


You should have earlier :P, nah honestly I dont care but I would like to see some consequence for letting him go.


Yes, there should be some, but not the degree what you and others were saying: we shouldn't be able to stop him at all.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 10 juin 2011 - 04:25 .


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GreenDragon37 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D


I really hate these radical Renegades.

It's called finishing the job.


You should have earlier :P, nah honestly I dont care but I would like to see some consequence for letting him go.


Yes, there should be some, but not the degree what you and others were saying: we shouldn't be able to stop him at all.


Nah, I was just being over the top, a touch sarcastic. Im still standing by my decision, sacrifice a few, save millions.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D


This. If he does happen to show up hopefully he'll have done something even more horrific just to taunt you with, gloating about how you let him go previously etc etc.

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it better show up if people let Balak live.
Maybe make use of that Tuchanka Clan Leader decision:If Wrex is dead,then Wreav is clan leader.Like if Balak survived in ME1 he will be some kind of terror organization leader or something,and if hes dead some other guy takes his place.

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Am I the only one who feels symapthy for the underlying reasons behind Balak's actions?

I too would get really pissed if some newcomer race started grabbing the land my race had been attempting to develop for decades.

With that being said, I wouldn't want to kill Balak if given the option in ME3. I would attempt to vicariously start a batarian-human dialogue though him.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Nah, I was just being over the top, a touch sarcastic. Im still standing by my decision, sacrifice a few, save millions.


You do know that if you let him go, the asteroid still doesn't kill anyone, right?

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I AM KROGAAANNN wrote...

Am I the only one who feels symapthy for the underlying reasons behind Balak's actions?

I too would get really pissed if some newcomer race started grabbing the land my race had been attempting to develop for decades.


No, because the Batarians had no legitimate claim over the entire Verge. Maybe a few planets, but if I don't see a flag  or colony there and there's no legal documents that say you own it, it's not yours. It's up for grabs. The Hegemony were like whiny kids. And Humans didn't do what Balak tried to do. So no, I have no sympathy for a terrorist.

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All Dead wrote...

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Nah, I was just being over the top, a touch sarcastic. Im still standing by my decision, sacrifice a few, save millions.


You do know that if you let him go, the asteroid still doesn't kill anyone, right?


*save potential

i know it doesnt kill anyone, the asteroid, but whats stopping him from doing it again when your "dead"

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theelementslayer wrote...

All Dead wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Nah, I was just being over the top, a touch sarcastic. Im still standing by my decision, sacrifice a few, save millions.


You do know that if you let him go, the asteroid still doesn't kill anyone, right?


*save potential

i know it doesnt kill anyone, the asteroid, but whats stopping him from doing it again when your "dead"


Because the Alliance stepped up defences on their major worlds?

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GreenDragon37 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D


I really hate these radical Renegades.

It's called finishing the job.


You should have earlier :P, nah honestly I dont care but I would like to see some consequence for letting him go.


Yes, there should be some, but not the degree what you and others were saying: we shouldn't be able to stop him at all.


The problems come when one side gets mission and the others don't.  That sucks for the side that doesn't.   Now if you hear about X terrorist attacks he did with X casualties and bump into Balak in a bar and kill him in a cut scene that is cool.

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GreenDragon37 wrote...

I AM KROGAAANNN wrote...

Am I the only one who feels symapthy for the underlying reasons behind Balak's actions?

I too would get really pissed if some newcomer race started grabbing the land my race had been attempting to develop for decades.


No, because the Batarians had no legitimate claim over the entire Verge. Maybe a few planets, but if I don't see a flag  or colony there and there's no legal documents that say you own it, it's not yours. It's up for grabs. The Hegemony were like whiny kids. And Humans didn't do what Balak tried to do. So no, I have no sympathy for a terrorist.


So what you're saying is that the Citadel/Council has jurisdiction over the entire galaxy, even over races that reject its authority and attempt to mind their own business? That when the Council gave the nod to humans to colonize lands that it had no jurisdiction over and was already settled by Batarians, the humans were still right?

Humans shouldn't have got their noses into Batarian settled lands, simple as that. The Citadel Council is by no means the only galactic authority and has no right to make decisions that effect non-compliant races.  I do not approve of terrorism but neither do I approve of jingoism.

What the humans did was a repeat of 19th century colonialism; it is pure naivete to not expect extremist backlash.

Modifié par I AM KROGAAANNN, 10 juin 2011 - 06:33 .


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If I remember correctly Imkrogan, the batarians were council members before resigning from the council after losing systems they claimed by simply claiming them. They had no presense or actual claim on them except for the fact that they think they are theirs because its on a map some where and no one else is there. Typical of SLAVERS and Torturers to think that their brand of jingoism and pathological altruism is superior, so all others are in the wrong.

Then when they lose an argument or war... what results is terrorism.

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Just a note, Balak escapes in me2 if you captured him instead of killing him. So there are two endings where he is alive and loose.

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He's dead in every one of my playthroughs.

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My Shepard's certainly wouldn't mind catching up with him. Except Jane. She already made sure that he died a very slow and painful death.

To be honest, though, I wouldn't be surprised if Balak is dead, thanks to the Reapers plowing through Batarian space. Not that I'm complaining...

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Houston confirmed that we would get batarian squadmate,probably because most people want a batarian squadmate.

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GreenDragon37 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D


I really hate these radical Renegades.

It's called finishing the job.

Should have finished the job when you had the chance, instead you let your emotions stop you from doing what had to be done. IMO people who let him go should live with the consequences, you don't get second chances in real life.

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Agamo45 wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Why should paragons get to kill him, you made your choice and let him go to kill more people. I think if he does show up there should be consequence for letting him go. I killed him, he aint going nowhere :D


I really hate these radical Renegades.

It's called finishing the job.

Should have finished the job when you had the chance, instead you let your emotions stop you from doing what had to be done. IMO people who let him go should live with the consequences, you don't get second chances in real life.


Life doesn't take sides. You have it your way, Balak lives to a ripe old age after devouring a million babies because we let him go. We have it our way, Balak ends up being killed anyway sometime down the road and you let a bunch of innocent people because you were impatient. Second chances can definitely happen in real life, even third and fourth ones. Your way is just an elimination of risk at the expense of human lives, but just because there's a risk of him getting away and never getting caught doesn't mean that's what has to happen.