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[Grumpy young man]

Since Reapers are basically space Mongolians their tactics of attacking the most desired target, Alliance, behind their back through Batarian space is pretty logical.

I say Mongolians, why

- Persia "smelly nomads won't attack us, deserts are too big", and bam - three way attack - diversion force from the northwest mistaken for the main army, while the true force goes thousand kilometers west and descends along the Caspian Sea and attacks the hearthland.

- Russian states "our enemies are all in the west and never attack during winter", well...

Modifié par Grumpy young man, 10 juin 2011 - 08:28 .

[Madmoe77]

ZLurps wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

Side note:
Anyone recall Prothean recording on Ilos from ME1? "...Cannot be stopped.... Cannot be stopped!..."

....has yet to be stopped is more like it. Would anyone play the game with zero chance of winning? Of course not. This drove the plot and becomes motivation to beat them. Which was the focus of ME1 in a nutshell; discover the past to warn the future and deal with the current threat. No one believed Shepard then or now-but the events of ME3 will be undeniable. And playing to win will be the goal. Like I mentioned in my earlier post; it is the time frame that really matters most. How long are the Reaper's reaping? From where are they reaping? Are they reaping without consequence? There are a lot of exploratory plot devices to wash away their invincibility. IMHO

[Thalador]

Actually, I can see it as a possibility that the Reapers might try to create a batarian Reaper after the Reaping has more or less ended, or the major resistancies have been put down. Harbinger only commented on the races that were part of Shepard's team in ME2 (though I still don't get why he doesn't consider turians a candidate for "perfection"... "Turian... your race is considered... primitive." Really, Harbinger? That's a very poor reason if you ask me - not even speaking of the fact that turians are very far from being primitive), but not on those that were not. Yeah, I'm sure the volus isn't a "nominee", but batarians seem to be viable for "ascension" - unless the choosy Reapers find them "primitive" as well.

Reading the comments here I envisioned the post-apocalyptic batarian home planet... halfly-destroyed "sovietish" propaganda posters, patrolling reapers (crabbies, and cuttlefish)... meanwhile Shepard has to fight shoulder-to-shoulder with a batarian resistance group that survived the initial invasion.

Modifié par Thalador, 10 juin 2011 - 08:37 .

[ZLurps]

Madmoe77 wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

Side note:
Anyone recall Prothean recording on Ilos from ME1? "...Cannot be stopped.... Cannot be stopped!..."

....has yet to be stopped is more like it. Would anyone play the game with zero chance of winning? Of course not. This drove the plot and becomes motivation to beat them. Which was the focus of ME1 in a nutshell; discover the past to warn the future and deal with the current threat. No one believed Shepard then or now-but the events of ME3 will be undeniable. And playing to win will be the goal. Like I mentioned in my earlier post; it is the time frame that really matters most. How long are the Reaper's reaping? From where are they reaping? Are they reaping without consequence? There are a lot of exploratory plot devices to wash away their invincibility. IMHO

Of course player must have a chance to win Reapers.
I was kinda trying to build atmosphere. You recall that quote, now think of that and those Batarian husks we saw in the demo, what likely happened to their whole civilisation and how fast it happened.

[Air36723]

Is anyone besides me thinking that if the batarians are indeed "mostly" extinct, that the trial against shepard as a scapegoat to prevent a war between the Systems Alliance/ Council and the Batarian Hegemony, should be forgotten about. 

Its not like the batarian survivors dont have bigger issues now.... Shep may have killed 300,00+ (depending on background story) but the "Ah, yes 'Reapers" are definately killing/huskifying many times more.  Also, i would like a renegade response to the trial that goes along the lines of, "I'm a spectre, anything i do to protect the council is permitted so **** YOU!":police:

Modifié par Air36723, 10 juin 2011 - 09:13 .

[Homebound]

Oh RIGHT, i DID get spectre status back didnt i? So all blame goes to the council!

[Bad King]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Janus198 wrote...

Are all batarians terrorists and slavers? I don´t think so.
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its in their "culture" to be slavers. u can hear news on the citadel if u use those terminal thingies. they aARE all slavers, or at least support it.

The batarians live under an oppressive caste system. It's highly unlikely that the majority lower castes control any slaves at all- it's the government and upper castes who promote a slave culture and they're the ones who control the slaves.

[Winterfly]

I see the Batarians a bit like the berberstates of North Africa.

But Batarians probably are to screwed up to even join the reapers.

[Silentblaze]

Hellbound555 wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Silentblaze wrote...

Meh. Biowares knows. Maybe we will in ME3.

On a side note: The galactic governments probably did know about the Reapers and didn't tell the civilians. This led to the biggest "Pearl Harbor" disaster in ME humanity's history.

I guess we better hope the fighter carriers weren't in Earth orbit when the hammer dropped.

wait..so the reapers attacked earth cuz earth cut off their oil? PLOT HOLE!

Well we did kinda stole/destroyed their smoothie machine (collecter base). 

So yep!

[Silentblaze]

jamesp81 wrote...

Silentblaze wrote...

Meh. Biowares knows. Maybe we will in ME3.

On a side note: The galactic governments probably did know about the Reapers and didn't tell the civilians. This led to the biggest "Pearl Harbor" disaster in ME humanity's history.

I guess we better hope the fighter carriers weren't in Earth orbit when the hammer dropped.

Admiral Hacket and/or Hannah Shepard's got 'em.

[Vanaer]

I think the Reapers actually fight divided. If all the Reapers were to focus on Earth - it would fall within no time. The Reapers do have quite a few characteristics though, a couple of important ones:

- Each of them is immensely strong
- They're proud and arrogant
- They're huge ships with thousands/millions of husks
- Being with a couple of thousand ships, it also means that they can not be at every given location at any given time
- There's a limit to how much they can handle (for example, Sovereign couldn't handle both keeping up shields and having some robot Turian die at the same time)

The last two characteristics also mean that, combined with their enormous strength, they are a **** to kill, but will have to take their time in the process of harvesting (they could destroy Earth of course, but that's not their goal). Their pride and arrogance also mean they will not deviate from their strategy of harvesting (it seems), instead of simply saying 'bad harvest, let's destroy it'.

That means that, since they're in limited numbers (there are a lot of reapers of course, but the Galaxy is huge) there will be multiple fights going on (with a couple of focus points here and there). This would normally not be a problem, since they would've cut off all the major star systems, but now the anti-reaper coalition has time to assemble major fleets and armies. Vigil also said that the process of reaping is a slow process. And why should the Reapers hurry? They're almost invincible (perhaps there's one ventilation shaft that you can access via a trench run, but don't worry about that Lord Vader), so they can take their time to be thorough.