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[phatpat63]

Not to mention that in many cases Shepard is still a Spectre, only under the authority of the Citadel Counsel. Not to mention that by all appearances Shepard is no longer part of the alliance military in ME2. Not to mention that the capitol of the Alliance along with all it's governing bodies and military headquarters is supposed to be on Arcturus Station, not Seattle U.S.A. on Earth.

The only reason for Shepard to be taken back to Earth for a "trial" is so they could make the opening level of the game the Reapers invading Earth.

It's the same as Shepard taking all 12 squadmates on some crappy mission, in a shuttle that previously could only hold 3 people, so the Collectors could abduct the crew. It's the same arbitrary and contrived writing style that dominates the main plot of ME2, if you played that game you shouldn't be surprised by things in ME3 not making much sense.

[Airell]

 Normandy returns to earth for a victory parade, all suddenly the Normandy explodes in to tiny pieces             
Shepard and Miranda are on beach watching their adoptive children play in the sand.
        Shepard and Ashley are on the beach drinking coronas
       Shepard and Tali are on the quarian home world building a house on the lake.
       Shepard  and Liara are on a planet researching a dig site with lot of adoptive  blue children
Under witness protection.

[bigSarg]

I can totally see the Council sacrificing Shep, they are politicians BTW and are prone to self-serving agendas at the expense of everyone else, no matter how much of a Hero that person is or what good things they have done. I also believe that this trial is more like the trial that Tali went through, its all political and Shep is just a means-to-an-end for the Council to placate the Batarians. But it could be more of an inquiry than a trial to discern if there is a need for a trial, just like someone already mentioned, this would also make sense.

[bigSarg]

Airell wrote...

 Normandy returns to earth for a victory parade, all suddenly the Normandy explodes in to tiny pieces             
Shepard and Miranda are on beach watching their adoptive children play in the sand.
        Shepard and Ashley are on the beach drinking coronas
       Shepard and Tali are on the quarian home world building a house on the lake.
       Shepard  and Liara are on a planet researching a dig site with lot of adoptive  blue children
Under witness protection.

LOL !! I love this !

[GreenDragon37]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I think Jesse Houston said that the trial isn't just for the batarian incident, but several other bad things Shepard did throughout his/her career as well. A resume, if you will.

True, SWM, but it was the Batarian incident that took the cake and the prospect of war that's forcing the Alliance to do something.

One piece of Cerberus Daily News seemed to hint on the Council having considered arresting Shepard as early as weeks following the Battle of the Citadel.

Why would they do that? That's just borderline stupid and there's no reason to do it.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 10 juin 2011 - 05:59 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

One piece of Cerberus Daily News seemed to hint on the Council having considered arresting Shepard as early as weeks following the Battle of the Citadel.

Why would they do that? That's just borderline stupid.

A number of reasons, including but possibly not limited to:

• Releasing or killing the Rachni Queen
• Destroying the Thorian
• Detonating nuclear devices on Virmire
• Hijacking the Normandy during the detention at the Citadel

This is in accordance with the Council's reaction to each of these decisions in ME1, off the top of my head.

[felipejiraya]

I think it will be like the Chrono Trigger trial when all the small actions you do in the game come to bite you in the butt. lol

About the location of the trial: if this is an Alliance matter Shepard shouldn't he be judged in Arcturus Station since there is the Alliance capital?

[GreenDragon37]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

One piece of Cerberus Daily News seemed to hint on the Council having considered arresting Shepard as early as weeks following the Battle of the Citadel.

Why would they do that? That's just borderline stupid.

A number of reasons, including but possibly not limited to:

• Releasing or killing the Rachni Queen
• Destroying the Thorian
• Detonating nuclear devices on Virmire
  Hijacking the Normandy during the detention at the Citadel

This is in accordance with the Council's reaction to each of these decisions in ME1, off the top of my head.

The problem is that the public would jump down the Council's throat. Shep is the hero of the battle of the Citadel, and they want to arrest him for those charges, even though 2 out of 3 of those are not even worth it? He's a Spectre, Saren could get away with a whole lot more.

[Skilled Seeker]

It should be taking place on Arcturus station, seeing as that's the capital of the Alliance, not earth. I wonder which country the trial will take place in, and how Bioware will explain this.

[Fiery Phoenix]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

The problem is that the public would jump down the Council's throat. Shep is the hero of the battle of the Citadel, and they want to arrest him for those charges, even though 2 out of 3 of those are not even worth it? He's a Spectre, Saren could get away with a whole lot more.

To quote Ashley, "...and that's why I hate politics."

[GreenDragon37]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

The problem is that the public would jump down the Council's throat. Shep is the hero of the battle of the Citadel, and they want to arrest him for those charges, even though 2 out of 3 of those are not even worth it? He's a Spectre, Saren could get away with a whole lot more.

To quote Ashley, "...and that's why I hate politics."

Especially Council politics. I swear, the Council was made to be derpy on purpose so that Shep would be forced to turn to Cerberus.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 10 juin 2011 - 06:09 .

[felipejiraya]

I was thinking better and came to the conclusion that the trial not necessarily has to take place in Arcturus Station to be correct.

For example: the International Criminal Court is in The Hague but it's a supranational court not a dutch one. So I think the same logic applies to the court that will judge Shepard, it's an Alliance court but based on Earth.

[NuclearBuddha]

felipejiraya wrote...

I was thinking better and came to the conclusion that the trial not necessarily has to take place in Arcturus Station to be correct.

For example: the International Criminal Court is in The Hague but it's a supranational court not a dutch one. So I think the same logic applies to the court that will judge Shepard, it's an Alliance court but based on Earth.

This is a very difficult concept for some people to grasp.

[GreenDragon37]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

I was thinking better and came to the conclusion that the trial not necessarily has to take place in Arcturus Station to be correct.

For example: the International Criminal Court is in The Hague but it's a supranational court not a dutch one. So I think the same logic applies to the court that will judge Shepard, it's an Alliance court but based on Earth.

This is a very difficult concept for some people to grasp.

Indeed.

[Fixers0]

Well, it was stated somewhere that, Anderson reinstaded his rank of commander after the Reapers invade, which means that he was probably stripped of his rank earlier.

Modifié par Fixers0, 10 juin 2011 - 07:20 .

[The Apostate]

phatpat63 brought up most of these points. My only retort does has to do with the Kodiak drop shuttle -- it can hold 12 people, at least according to the Codex. If you want proof get it from the wiki:

http://masseffect.wi...ps_and_Vehicles

But the reason why Shepard decides to leave randomly with all his important crew is never really explained. What mission does he go on, especially if your Shepard has completed the all the side quests at that point? It does seem like a plot hole to me.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

It should be taking place on Arcturus station, seeing as that's the capital of the Alliance, not earth. I wonder which country the trial will take place in, and how Bioware will explain this.

Probably like... you know, in that Seattle/Vancouvery place we've seen in the Earth Gameplay demo which is right at the start.

As for why Shepard is on Earth, erm that's because that is where Hackett said we had to go and... Shepard is like Jack Bauer, so just like Jack Bauer in Season 7, he is summoned to the courts in the US. DAMMIT!

[KotorEffect3]

My Shepard will see it as an opportunity to make his case to the alliance that the reapers are coming. I am looking forward to the trial, of course halfway through the trial the reapers themselves will arrive, I wonder what the reactions will be when that happens. Really looking forward to it.

[Quinnzel]

I can see it coming down to a choice:
Either present evidence proving that it was an Alliance operation, clearing Shep but making the already bad relationship with Batarians worse (impacting the war effort and later attempts to unify the galaxy) OR
Remain silent, take the hit, play up Shep working for Cerberus (fringe faction) and offering the Batarians to take their shot at shep (prison within Batarian world or Earth) and establishing a better relationship (if only slight) which could tie in later with said unifying of galaxy.
Court will then be adjourned until - OH NOES! REAPERS! INVASION! INDOCTRINATION!

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Quinnzel wrote...

I can see it coming down to a choice:
Either present evidence proving that it was an Alliance operation, clearing Shep but making the already bad relationship with Batarians worse (impacting the war effort and later attempts to unify the galaxy) OR
Remain silent, take the hit, play up Shep working for Cerberus (fringe faction) and offering the Batarians to take their shot at shep (prison within Batarian world or Earth) and establishing a better relationship (if only slight) which could tie in later with said unifying of galaxy.
Court will then be adjourned until - OH NOES! REAPERS! INVASION! INDOCTRINATION!

Yup, I imagine it to be something like that. They can also of course nicely throw in other things as well like some of the psych profiles/backgrounds.

Going back to my earlier comment... I so want Renegade Shep to say.

"Don't expect me to regret the decisions I've made, because Sir, the truth is... I don't!"

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 11 juin 2011 - 02:15 .

[Inutaisho7996]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

It should be taking place on Arcturus station, seeing as that's the capital of the Alliance, not earth. I wonder which country the trial will take place in, and how Bioware will explain this.

It takes place in Seattle/Vancouver, United North American States.

The Apostate wrote...

But the reason why Shepard decides
to leave randomly with all his important crew is never really explained.
What mission does he go on, especially if your Shepard has completed
the all the side quests at that point? It does seem like a plot hole to
me.

Miranda says that while EDI is examining the IFF, Shepard should take the whole team in the Kodiak, and choose who he/she wants to take with him/her on the mission when they arrive. I have no idea what they do once they get there, but there is a reason everyone's gone.

Modifié par Inutaisho7996, 11 juin 2011 - 02:18 .

[Grunt Lord]

remember they where called back before they got to mission site becuse of collector attack

[The Apostate]

Yeah I know the reason why everyone's gone. Just where did they go if you completed all side quests?

Never mind, it doesn't matter. Thanks for the answers anyway.

[Rolling Flame]

phatpat63 wrote...

Not to mention that in many cases Shepard is still a Spectre, only under the authority of the Citadel Counsel. Not to mention that by all appearances Shepard is no longer part of the alliance military in ME2. Not to mention that the capitol of the Alliance along with all it's governing bodies and military headquarters is supposed to be on Arcturus Station, not Seattle U.S.A. on Earth.

I doubt most Spectres have blown up an entire star system by crashing an asteriod into a Mass Relay, resulting in the deaths of 300,000 people. 

There is also the fact that the Batarian want blood, and if the Alliance merely shrugged their shoulders and said, "Eh, he/she's not our problem," imagine what that would do to their image, and not just in the eyes of the Batarians. In my mind Shepard will not get a fair hearing, because, time and again, the Alliance has shown that it is very concerned about its reputation with the other species.