Now, I'm not sure if I'm alive during the events of Mass Effect, I would agree or disagree with Cerberus. Considering I'm alive now and the events of Mass Effect is just story, I dislike TIM and Cerberus with a passion.
With that said, why the hell would TIM spend six billion credits I believe, to bring back ONE person, to try to have later have him/her killed?
I can understand sending people to kill Miranda and Jacob, they are non-factors to me in my playthrough and wouldn't lose sleep over them if they wind up dead.
In my opinion, Cerberus needs to work with the Alliance, giving them crucial data from their brutual experiments on children and others to the Alliance. As well as give the Alliance financial aid, and military/firepower to help quell the Reaper attacks.
The Illusive Man, is making this into a personal vendetta against Shepard during a time humanity needs to stand strong and fight.
I will be satisfied if we get to catch TIM and bring him alive, or in my case the only time I'll pick a renegade option is to finish him.
TIM and Cerberus Need To Grow Up!
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:16
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Dannyboy9876 wrote...
INDOCTRINATION IS A ****
This times a million.
Pretty sure they've been indoctrinated by the Reapers, well, at least TIMmy, anyway.
EDIT: Oh and I hope we get to confront him at some point in ME3
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:36
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LOL, yea I've been thinking the same thing, TIM gave Shep free reign over the entire mission to do things his/her way and refused to implant a control chip that Miranda had initially suggested so if hes now going to throw a hissy fit because Shep didn't do things the way he wanted then all I have to say to TIM is...TO FREAKIN BAD, get over it.
The indoctrination theory is the only one that seems to make any real sense and doesn't portray TIM as a spoiled little brat thats throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way or things didn't turn out the way he wanted.
The indoctrination theory is the only one that seems to make any real sense and doesn't portray TIM as a spoiled little brat thats throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way or things didn't turn out the way he wanted.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:38
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I hate Cerberus, but no-way TIM is doing this for Revenge. TIM is smarter than that. Indoctrination makes sense.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:38
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Rich people have a bad sense of humor.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:39
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Hm, Timmy being indoctrinated... Never thought of that... *SPOILERS* In the books, they used Grayson and he became... less than human, similiar to Saren. *SPOILERS*
That tells me Cerberus already had some form of Reaper tech available, so its safe to say, maybe TIM was indoctrinated some during, or after the events of ME2/Arrival.
That tells me Cerberus already had some form of Reaper tech available, so its safe to say, maybe TIM was indoctrinated some during, or after the events of ME2/Arrival.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:40
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Okay, I really think there's more to this than that.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:41
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Waltzingbear wrote...
Rich people have a bad sense of humor.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:43
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Maturity has nothing to do with mind control
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:44
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The comic has the Illusive Man come into contact with a Reaper artifact that made everyone else a husk slave. So yeah, he was probably affected all the way back then during the First Contact War.JadeEffect wrote...
Hm, Timmy being indoctrinated... Never thought of that... *SPOILERS* In the books, they used Grayson and he became... less than human, similiar to Saren. *SPOILERS*
That tells me Cerberus already had some form of Reaper tech available, so its safe to say, maybe TIM was indoctrinated some during, or after the events of ME2/Arrival.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:46
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Chewin3 had a pretty good speculation about this. Since Cerberus is working with the reapers, most Cerberus soldier are indoctrinated (This confirmed). Since the reapers wanted his body from the beginning, they are just handing (or doing the dirty work for the reapers) Shepard to them. And since they wanted Shepard's body while he was dead, a living body will probably make it even better. Think about the Collectors for example. They collected living bodies, nor dead.
Why TIM spended money to bring Shepard back to life? He wanted Shepard to stop the Collectors/reapers from the very beginninh, but maybe the Reapers made a deal with TIM. I don't think TIM is indoctrinated at all.
Why TIM spended money to bring Shepard back to life? He wanted Shepard to stop the Collectors/reapers from the very beginninh, but maybe the Reapers made a deal with TIM. I don't think TIM is indoctrinated at all.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:50
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TIM is already infused with Reaper tech from the look of Evolutions. He's probably been under their influence for a while, it just never took control of him until the Reapers finally arrived. I would beet he was trying to find a way to slow down/stop indoctrination for some time now, like Saren in ME1.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 05:50
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Maturity has nothing to do with mind control
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:06
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Dannyboy9876 wrote...
INDOCTRINATION IS A ****
Shepard says so during one of the videos.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:07
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Serpenttt92 wrote...
TIM is not indoctrinated.
We don't know that.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:12
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GreenDragon37 wrote...
Serpenttt92 wrote...
TIM is not indoctrinated.
We don't know that.
True. But TIM might just be another Saren. Considering he's a walking source for Reaper spare parts, he's probably an easy target for indoctrination. And from there it's only a small step to controlling the whole organisation since distance doesn't seem to be a problem for the Reapers. What seems odd is that he of all people should've known that...
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:14
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Its a blissful little thing called "indoctrination."
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:16
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Rawke wrote...
GreenDragon37 wrote...
Serpenttt92 wrote...
TIM is not indoctrinated.
We don't know that.
True. But TIM might just be another Saren. Considering he's a walking source for Reaper spare parts, he's probably an easy target for indoctrination. And from there it's only a small step to controlling the whole organisation since distance doesn't seem to be a problem for the Reapers. What seems odd is that he of all people should've known that...
I believe he is indoctrinated. I just think he should go the Saren-route. He had an ulterior motive, but he underestimated the Reapers. TIM is known to be pretty arrogant, it would make sense.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:18
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Here's a theory and you all can make of it as you will -
ME 2 Renegade Ending - You keep the base. Then TIM goes over to the Collector base to try and find a way to stop the Reapers. However, going on what we know when a Cerberus scientific team goes into a 35 million year old Reaper, indoctrination happens and TIM is under Reaper control.
ME 2 Paragon ending - Base is destroyed. However, Cerberus salvage teams go anyway to try to find something. We've already seen countless examples of how even a Reaper artifact can cause indoctrination. So, we can still arrive at an indoctrinated TIM.
I'm kinda "meh" about the idea as I don't want Cerberus to be generic enemies like Blue Suns/Eclipse in this go-around but I can live with it.
ME 2 Renegade Ending - You keep the base. Then TIM goes over to the Collector base to try and find a way to stop the Reapers. However, going on what we know when a Cerberus scientific team goes into a 35 million year old Reaper, indoctrination happens and TIM is under Reaper control.
ME 2 Paragon ending - Base is destroyed. However, Cerberus salvage teams go anyway to try to find something. We've already seen countless examples of how even a Reaper artifact can cause indoctrination. So, we can still arrive at an indoctrinated TIM.
I'm kinda "meh" about the idea as I don't want Cerberus to be generic enemies like Blue Suns/Eclipse in this go-around but I can live with it.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:21
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Cerberus brought Shepard back to stop the Collectors, not the reapers. With the collectors gone, TIM can now be favorite.
I feel like Im the only one who sees this....
I feel like Im the only one who sees this....
#23
Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:41
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GreenDragon37 wrote...
Serpenttt92 wrote...
TIM is not indoctrinated.
We don't know that.
I've played Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.
Is TIM indoctrinated or not? No... he is not.
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:53
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cerberus maby knowed about the reaper arrival and maby they wanted the collector tech and used shepard and after the reapers attacked maby they saw it as an oppertunity to take over the galaxy with those tech and shepard gone
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Posté 10 juin 2011 - 07:53
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Serpenttt92 wrote...
GreenDragon37 wrote...
Serpenttt92 wrote...
TIM is not indoctrinated.
We don't know that.
I've played Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.
Is TIM indoctrinated or not? No... he is not.
this logic kinda reminds me of that popular saying "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
