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Idea for a bittersweet "i am your father" ME3 twist. ME1+2 spoilers.


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Jonner

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Imagine that ME3 started with a intro recap narrated by shepard with visuals of a previously unshowned exotic alien speeces finding and exploring an empy citadel. Shepard narrates with a voice over about how the prometheans previously thought to have been an advanced alien species that build the citadel just found it. How they were annialated by the reapers and how they managed before their genocide to sabotage the citadel trap and thereby managed to give the next "current" organic life circle a fighting chance against the Reapers. A sober bittersweet story and atmosphere in ME1 when their story is told in the 3 act of ME1.

ME3 would build up around recruiting species and factions to fight the Reapers in a galactic war confrontation in the 3 act against the Reapers. The bigger the villain the bigger the hero. Reapers have been portrayed as an unbeatable threat/villain. A threat so big that the story needs a deus ex machine to the story to explain how they can be defeated. A deus ex a la War of the Worlds bacteria would be kind of a cliche.
 
But it would be very original and memorable storytelling if they introduced some sort of "weapon" possible of defeating the reapers in ME3 but by the time it would be to late. The intergalactic armada you have recruited in ME3 would already by that point been annhialated. In the end the final mission you will be surrounded by husks, endless respawn until you die, but before that you would make a recording (like promethean ruins or citadel VI recording) to the next organic life circle, like the prometheans did, about how there is a weapon, hope, left behind for the next time the reapers arrive. Indicating that mankind and the other current alien species are all extinct now.  Then there would be a cutscene of the aliens from the intro recap beeing not the promethane but the next alien life form to discover the citadel. Listening to Shepards telling and maybe showing them defeating the reapers with the deus ex machina. And in accordance with the circle of life theme previously addressed in ME.

Would end the ME franchice timewise but would be very bittersweet ending. My 2 cents anyway. Thoughts?
Sorry for the spelling, english not my native language.

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javierabegazo

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I like this idea :) Reminds of the closing scene of Halo:Reach, I'm not really into Halo that much, only played that game because it came free with MS' Xbox Dashboard Beta program, but that last scene really did pull some heart strings

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That's very sci-fi! B)

But ME is fantasy space opera. I'm actually surprised that the omni-blade doesn't look like an axe.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 10 juin 2011 - 09:48 .


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onelifecrisis wrote...

That's very sci-fi! B)

But ME is fantasy space opera. I'm actually surprised that the omni-blade doesn't look like an axe.


Call me pessimistic and jaded, but if ME3's ending is all sunshine and rainbows I will be rather disappointed.

Victory should come at a cost, to both society and Shepard.

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Interesting idea but can't see at happening. I'm pretty sure we can expect a mass effect MMO in the future. The universe is far too richly developed and popular to toss aside after this trilogy is done. From looks of what bioware are doing with their star wars MMO i can't see them doing anything as radical as omitting humanity as a playable species.

Although I'm pretty sure shepard will at least have the option of dying at the end of mass effect 3. 

Modifié par DCarter, 10 juin 2011 - 09:52 .


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That would make for a great movie ending. But at the same time it might make fans mad. XD
I sort of like the idea that we wouldn't get to defeat the Reapers all together leaving room for more stories down the line, sort of the sith vs the jedi, that fight just will never stop.

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Volus Warlord wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

That's very sci-fi! B)

But ME is fantasy space opera. I'm actually surprised that the omni-blade doesn't look like an axe.


Call me pessimistic and jaded, but if ME3's ending is all sunshine and rainbows I will be rather disappointed.

Victory should come at a cost, to both society and Shepard.


You ARE pessimitic and jaded. As Shepard your goal would be to save the galaxy with the least damage done....
It doesn't have to be tragic to be a good story...That idea of "victory" is very depressing...

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Have this as one of the endings? Yes. That could possibly be an ending that gives those that didn't have the 'optimum' playthrough a strong sense of closure, and would be on par, if not more epic than any 'good guy saves the day and gets the girl' ending. When everyone starts metagaming, it would compel others to change up your gameplay, because it may be bittersweet, it is just as well-done (or better) ending as anything else.

Good job, OP. You get my Kelly Chambers 'Enticing Thought' seal!

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Modifié par Alpha-Centuri, 10 juin 2011 - 10:02 .


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Reminds me of the ending to the first three Terminator movies. Judgement Day was inevitable and what not. Not really sure it would work as a proper video game ending either.

No hate, just IMO.

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You know what would be cool? if that was one of the endings.

We know Mass Effect 3 will have multiple endings based on choice so there would be an ending in which you find something powerful enough to destroy the Reapers but you can't use it because you don't have enough allies left etc...this could be the neutral/bittersweet/tragic ending, of course it would be kind of pointless for some people since you can actually win against the Reapers if you have done everything to the max but it would be cool IMO if only for the dramaatic potential.

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turns out, the cipher on ilos gave shep prothean tech that can kill the reapers. his mind just needed time to sift through it.

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I don't know, I would feel ripped off. It would make the fight of the entire series pointless. I wouldn't mind seeing Shepard make the ultimate sacrifice but only if it had him defeating the reapers and ending the cycle.

by the way your sounding the recording would get lost over the millennium's and the cycle would still continue, making the entire trilogy pointless from a story standpoint

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For all we know, an ending like this is entirely possible. Maybe not exactly what you said, with a weapon for the next set of advanced civilizations, but just a general "we may have failed but the Reapers will be stopped one day" ending.

There would also be the "galaxy is completely wiped out" ending, the "Reapers are defeated but the galaxy is really screwed up for generations" ending, the "everything goes perfectly and the galaxy lives on" ending...

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That's a really interesting ending. It might not make everyone happy but it would be undoubtedly well done.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 10 juin 2011 - 10:25 .


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Volus Warlord wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

That's very sci-fi! B)

But ME is fantasy space opera. I'm actually surprised that the omni-blade doesn't look like an axe.


Call me pessimistic and jaded, but if ME3's ending is all sunshine and rainbows I will be rather disappointed.

Victory should come at a cost, to both society and Shepard.


This.

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Wow. That's actually good.

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Well, I think Shepard (and not only him) should record and hide advices just in case we fail. We must warn the next organic species about reapers because we cannot have the certainty that we're going to win.

I would love if every ending were different and well done, so I approve this as one of them :D

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Nice! Kudos!

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No. It has to end with Shepard going into the Unknown Regions to combat the True Reapers.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

No. It has to end with Shepard going into the Unknown Regions to combat the True Reapers.


True. This.

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Ozzyfan223 wrote...

I don't know, I would feel ripped off. It would make the fight of the entire series pointless. I wouldn't mind seeing Shepard make the ultimate sacrifice but only if it had him defeating the reapers and ending the cycle.

by the way your sounding the recording would get lost over the millennium's and the cycle would still continue, making the entire trilogy pointless from a story standpoint


I don't think this ending would make our fight pointless. This game is going to have multple endings so this could just be one. Even then, remember the reapers have been doing this for literally millions of years(derelict reaper suggests at least 37 million) and it really wouldn't be a surprise if they were to be victorious. If Shepard had a definite way to defeat reapers but couldn't because he and the rest of the races of the galaxy had run out of time; warning future sentient life and saving trillions lives in the future definitely wouldn't be pointless.

And as for the bolded part, you simply do not know this. Don't act like your speculation is fact. The protheans successfully got a message to us(at least shepard&co.) and its quite possible Shepard could do the same.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 10 juin 2011 - 10:46 .


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You're all forgetting something INCREDIBLY vital.

It's called "communication barriers". Shepard (obviously) can't understand the speech of the next generation, and they will not be able to understand Shepard.

The reason why Shepard even succeeded in ME1 was because of the Cipher, the technology which to create another one having been lost for 50,000 years. Not to mention the ONLY reason the Cipher survived all those years was because of the Thorian. And that thing is dead, with no other lifeform like it in sight.

Don't get me wrong, great idea that I would really enjoy myself... BUT. It falls flat when you consider the minor details.

Sorry to be the wet blanket.

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I'd like this ending, but it would pretty much definitively end the Mass Effect series (or be retconned and made irrelevant in future installments, which would be very disappointing), so I doubt it would happen.

Eshaye wrote...

That would make for a great movie ending. But at the same time it might make fans mad. XD
I sort of like the idea that we wouldn't get to defeat the Reapers all together leaving room for more stories down the line, sort of the sith vs the jedi, that fight just will never stop.

I'd hope not. There are many interesting things in the Mass Effect world, and I'd be disappointed if those were foregone in favor of focusing on the reapers forever until they have no impact because the audience knows the storyline will never be resolved and they will always come back. Hellooooo, daleks.

Arcian wrote...

You're all forgetting something INCREDIBLY vital.

It's called "communication barriers". Shepard (obviously) can't understand the speech of the next generation, and they will not be able to understand Shepard.

The reason why Shepard even succeeded in ME1 was because of the Cipher, the technology which to create another one having been lost for 50,000 years. Not to mention the ONLY reason the Cipher survived all those years was because of the Thorian. And that thing is dead, with no other lifeform like it in sight.

Don't get me wrong, great idea that I would really enjoy myself... BUT. It falls flat when you consider the minor details.

Sorry to be the wet blanket.

Make a new cipher? It's sci-fi, you know. They could just pull something out of their asses.

Modifié par ipgd, 10 juin 2011 - 10:51 .


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I've read before E3 that there is only one ending, but depending on your gameplay, it's colours and awesomeness may vary.

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This would make a fantastic possible ending, but as others have said would never be the sole ending. Languages can be traslated under the right circumstances, wouldn't be hard to think up another way around that, would love to see this in game.