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[shinobi602]

Rip504 wrote...
The experience is much better on the PS3.(Consoles not PC) IMO.

I would LOVE to know how it was "much better". Please, enlighten me.

[ArcanistLibram]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I promise* you a bare minimum of one disc.


*Promise not valid with DD. Also, I am a lying swine.

Wait, if you're a lying swine, that means you're lying when you say you're a liar, so you're telling the truth about lying, so ERROR DIVISION BY ZERO

[ME-ParaShep]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

For linear games, disc swapping is fine. Mass effect is not about a linear progression. All roads lead to the same place, but the path you take can vary significantly. Have a requirement for x amount of gb storage and have disc(s) 2+ as having to be installed to hard-drive. This would have made ME2 a far more enjoyable experience since we (the players) would have more choice in how to play the game. Problem solved.

Thank you. Someone with the same thoughts as me about multiple discs.

[Paul Sedgmore]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

For linear games, disc swapping is fine. Mass effect is not about a linear progression. All roads lead to the same place, but the path you take can vary significantly. Have a requirement for x amount of gb storage and have disc(s) 2+ as having to be installed to hard-drive. This would have made ME2 a far more enjoyable experience since we (the players) would have more choice in how to play the game. Problem solved.

I think limiting your audience by requiring X amount of storage would be the wrong way to go. Maybe keep the disc swapping for those without a large amount of storage space and enable the game to be played from a specific disc like Castlevania: Lords of Shadow when the others are installed.

Modifié par Paul Sedgmore, 10 juin 2011 - 10:33 .

[Madjah]

 I would personally be okay with 3 or 4. In L.A. Noire there was three disks on X360 and it didn't bother me too much. It's not like there is much effort in walking up to the system and switching disks.

[Oblivious]

shinobi602 wrote...

Rip504 wrote...
The experience is much better on the PS3.(Consoles not PC) IMO.

I would LOVE to know how it was "much better". Please, enlighten me.

Not much point in explaining since I am inclined to say you're not a fan of the PS3 since you won't even bother to look up the info yourself but here www.gamerankings.com/browse.html

[dewayne31]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I promise* you a bare minimum of one disc.


*Promise not valid with DD. Also, I am a lying swine.

i roflmao when i read your response

[wizardryforever]

shinobi602 wrote...

Rip504 wrote...
The experience is much better on the PS3.(Consoles not PC) IMO.

I would LOVE to know how it was "much better". Please, enlighten me.

I was wondering how long it would take for this to start.

If I had to guess how many discs, I'd say two or three.  Though it would be great if we could install the game and only need disc one from that point on.  In ME2, you still had to change discs at the appropriate times, even if all the information was on your hard drive.  That eliminated one of the biggest reasons to install the game in the first place.  I don't really mind disc swapping, and I would prefer if they didn't railroad the game specifically to minimize the disc swapping.  That seems like such a trivial reason to railroad us.  Don't do it!

[JadeEffect]

ME = 1
ME2 = 2
ME3 = 3

[shinobi602]

Oblivious wrote...

Not much point in explaining since I am inclined to say you're not a fan of the PS3 since you won't even bother to look up the info yourself but here www.gamerankings.com/browse.html

That's a dumb assumption to make. I own a PS3 and play it quite frequently actually. A lot of PS3 exclusives this year are my most anticipated games.

I'm asking the user himself why he thinks it's "much better". It's the same exact experience, only one version is on one disc. If that's what makes one "much better" than the other, that's the worst reasoning I've heard. I don't know why you linked me to a FF13 link, but ok...

Modifié par shinobi602, 10 juin 2011 - 10:42 .

[Oblivious]

Then my assumption was wrong but that changes nothing. According to reviews the PS3 version is superior. If you truly wish to know why for reasons aside from "it's easier than changing discs" then read the reviews listed in Game Rankings.

[shinobi602]

Oblivious wrote...

Then my assumption was wrong but that changes nothing. According to reviews the PS3 version is superior. If you truly wish to know why for reasons aside from "it's easier than changing discs" then read the reviews listed in Game Rankings.

Interesting, according to reviews, the 360 version is rated higher, huh...

I've read reviews of the PS3 version. There's absolutely no changes to gameplay, dialogue, story, controls, etc. Nothing. Only difference is the PS3 version has a somewhat different lighting system, and I've watched the comparisons on Lens of Truth, Digital Foundry, etc. They both look the same, PS3 just uses different lighting.

In your own words, what do you think makes it "much" better? I want to know why you yourself believe that. (Please don't tell me it's the comic.......)

Modifié par shinobi602, 10 juin 2011 - 10:50 .

[felipejiraya]

Doesn't matter at all for me, I'll install everything on my PC.

[Oblivious]

shinobi602 wrote...

In your own words, what do you think makes it "much" better? I want to know why you yourself believe that.

I never played a Final Fantasy game in my life due to a disconnected storyline (same reason I dislike Mario and Zelda) and the closest I've gotten was Kingdom Hearts. I never said the PS3 version was much better or even better at all. I said according to reviews from professionals and consumers the PS3 version is superior. www.metacritic.com/search/all/final+fantasy+xiii/results

Don't believe it? Have a different opinion? Not my problem, but there's the answer to your questions.

Modifié par Oblivious, 10 juin 2011 - 10:53 .

[shinobi602]

Oblivious wrote...
I never played a Final Fantasy game in my life due to a disconnected storyline (same reason I dislike Mario and Zelda) and the closest I've gotten was Kingdom Hearts. I never said the PS3 version was much better or even better at all. I said according to reviews from professionals and consumers the PS3 version is superior. www.metacritic.com/search/all/final+fantasy+xiii/results

Don't believe it? Have a different opinion? Not my problem, but there's the answer to your questions.

....I'm talking about Mass Effect 2, not Final Fantasy 13.........

[Foryou]

My money is on PS3 one considering LA Noire is 3 on Xbox and 1 on PS3. Though Xbox updated the disc hardware so I don't know how much extra space hopefully 1

[x-Legion-x]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I promise* you a bare minimum of one disc.


*Promise not valid with DD. Also, I am a lying swine.

And A Rude one at that

[Oblivious]

/facepalm sorry, got everything confused. I thought that was what you mean when you asked why the PS3 version is superior to the 360 one. Please disregard everything prior.

As for your question: I don't believe that ME2 on the PS3 is that superior over the 360 version. For a few graphics upgrades and simple gameplay upgrades (less glitches and easier planet scanning) the game had to sacrifice story and decisions. There is no giant improvement and it is merely up to personal opion

[shinobi602]

Oblivious wrote...

/facepalm sorry, got everything confused. I thought that was what you mean when you asked why the PS3 version is superior to the 360 one. Please disregard everything prior.

As for your question: I don't believe that ME2 on the PS3 is that superior over the 360 version. For a few graphics upgrades and simple gameplay upgrades (less glitches and easier planet scanning) the game had to sacrifice story and decisions. There is no giant improvement and it is merely up to personal opion

Sure, no probs.

That's what I meant, I don't see the "much better" reasoning =/

[Paul Sedgmore]

Foryou wrote...

My money is on PS3 one considering LA Noire is 3 on Xbox and 1 on PS3. Though Xbox updated the disc hardware so I don't know how much extra space hopefully 1

the new disc layout for the 360 only gives it and extra 1Gb of data per disc which would not give it enough to reduce the game to 1 disc if the amount of data is the same as ME2
http://www.eurogamer...60-disc-upgrade

[shnizzler93]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

Foryou wrote...

My money is on PS3 one considering LA Noire is 3 on Xbox and 1 on PS3. Though Xbox updated the disc hardware so I don't know how much extra space hopefully 1

the new disc layout for the 360 only gives it and extra 1Gb of data per disc which would not give it enough to reduce the game to 1 disc if the amount of data is the same as ME2
http://www.eurogamer...60-disc-upgrade

And that 1gb was only various security features that were removed.

[Paul Sedgmore]

shnizzler93 wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

Foryou wrote...

My money is on PS3 one considering LA Noire is 3 on Xbox and 1 on PS3. Though Xbox updated the disc hardware so I don't know how much extra space hopefully 1

the new disc layout for the 360 only gives it and extra 1Gb of data per disc which would not give it enough to reduce the game to 1 disc if the amount of data is the same as ME2
http://www.eurogamer...60-disc-upgrade

And that 1gb was only various security features that were removed.

Yep, at most DVD can hold 8.7Gb of data per disc (dual-layered, single sided which is what the 360 uses) where Blu-Ray holds ~25Gb per disc (Single layered which is what the PS3 is currently using its ~50Gb for dual-layered)

Edit:

afterdawn.com wrote...
While a dual layer DVD holds around 8GB of data, the game data partition
on an Xbox 360 game disc only allows for 6.8GB of data. The rest of
used for a video partition present on each disc and other data. By using
a dashboard update to enable the system to read from a larger game data
partition, developers will get about an extra 1GB of space

Modifié par Paul Sedgmore, 10 juin 2011 - 11:23 .

[ebevan91]

I know how many discs I'm getting.

Zero.

Steam