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[Sharpy33]

A Grey Warden uniting all of Ferelden that includes Elves, Dwarves, Mages, and Men (etc) to fight the darkspawn

A (former) Spectre uniting the entire Galaxy that includes Turians, Humans, Asari, and Salarians (etc) to fight Reapers

Will BioWare repeat the same story?  

They did with ME1 by having the story very much like KOTOR 

Grant it, ME1's revelations and endings are very different from KOTOR, but you get the point

Modifié par Sharpy33, 11 juin 2011 - 12:35 .

[Teddie Sage]

The "sad" thing about this "truth" is that nobody really cares as long as the game is "good". It actually bugs me that it's going to have a Dragon Age Origins feeling to it, but it's still Mass Effect we're playing, not Dragon Age.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 10 juin 2011 - 11:26 .

[Sharpy33]

mrsph wrote...

Bioware repeats the same story every single time, dude. They aren't original at all.

Disagree

ME2's story was different from all of their other games

[Icinix]

Most RPG / Fantasty based storied follow the same sort of lines.

Its still better than uncovering some ancient super weapon though.

[KotorEffect3]

It looks as though thread is a nest of whiners.   Don't know how you are going to come up with a better story. The reapers are a threat to everybody it makes sense to try and unite everybody against them.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 10 juin 2011 - 11:28 .

[KotorEffect3]

mrsph wrote...

Bioware repeats the same story every single time, dude. They aren't original at all.

How many bioware games have you played?

[Sharpy33]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

It looks as though thread is a nest of whiners.   Don't know how you are going to come up with a better story. The reapers are a threat to everybody it makes sense to try and unite everybody against them.

Yeah your right...damn it

I'm not complaining the game I'm sure it will be great, it's just the story just ringed a bell in my mind

Bring on the trolls!

Modifié par Sharpy33, 10 juin 2011 - 11:30 .

[Decepticus Wolf]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

It looks as though thread is a nest of whiners.   Don't know how you are going to come up with a better story. The reapers are a threat to everybody it makes sense to try and unite everybody against them.

This.
And the story won't be exactly the same. OP just named the basic idea and procession of the plot. There is a lot more to the Mass Effect universe than just that. Not just the mythology either. Unlike Dragon Age, Mass Effect continues the characters' story as well. 

Modifié par Decepticus Wolf, 10 juin 2011 - 11:33 .

[ladyvader]

Sharpy33 wrote...

A Grey Warden uniting all of Ferelden that includes Elves, Dwarves, Mages, and Men (etc) to fight the darkspawn

A (former) Spectre uniting the entire Galaxy that includes Turians, Humans, Asari, and Salarians (etc) to fight Reapers

Will BioWare repeat the same story?

They did with ME1 by having the story very much like KOTOR, 

You do realize that the Drew Karpyshyn was the lead writer for both KotOR and Mass Effect.  But then even KotOR wasn't that original. 

But then if you honestly think about it, how many original stories are there?  Hollywood isn't making too many original movies and that doesn't seem to hurt the movie business that much.  The music indursty is even worse than movies.  They find one band/singer that is sorta different then they go out and look for clones of that sound.  

If you are going to complain about the story being the same concept as Dragon Age:Orgins, then take it out at the Dragon Age forums because Mass Effect was first.

[tog42]

Sharpy33 wrote...

A Grey Warden uniting all of Ferelden that includes Elves, Dwarves, Mages, and Men (etc) to fight the darkspawn

A (former) Spectre uniting the entire Galaxy that includes Turians, Humans, Asari, and Salarians (etc) to fight Reapers

Will BioWare repeat the same story?

Basically but then we pretty much already knew that is what it was going to be from the groundwork laid in ME2. There's no other way you can really fight the Reapers.

I think it'll be a deeper experience for the player though as the situation will be shaped by your decisions from ME1 & ME2. Did you preserve the cure to the genophage? Rewrite or obliterate the Geth? These decisions and more carrying over (hopefully) will make the story in ME3 unique to every player.

[KotorEffect3]

Every story you read in a book, seen in a movie, or experienced in a game has been used before. I don't care if something isn't original as long as it is executed well.

[Icinix]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Every story you read in a book, seen in a movie, or experienced in a game has been used before. I don't care if something isn't original as long as it is executed well.

This.

Being forced to come with something original for the sake of coming up with something original may do more damage than good.

Besides...sometimes I like me some corny, lets get everyone together kick arse good times.

I also think anything less than the unification of the galaxies races to fight a war of attrition with the Reapers just wouldn't be doing Mass Effect any justice.

If they came out with some plot twist that took away from the races getting together against a common threat, I feel it would just be letting down everything the series has worked towards.

[Flashlegend]

Sharpy33 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Bioware repeats the same story every single time, dude. They aren't original at all.

Disagree

ME2's story was different from all of their other games

The story in ME2 might have been original but it was a very weak one.

[Manic Sheep]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Every story you read in a book, seen in a movie, or experienced in a game has been used before. I don't care if something isn't original as long as it is executed well.

This^
I don’t think there are really many other ways you could play this and have it make sense anyway. Different factions/races/whatever + stronger threat that seeks to destroy them all = you're going to want to unite them for everybody’s sake. The basic foundations may be similar but that doesn’t mean the story is the same. Characters, other smaller things and how and which tropes are used and how they are done make the story unique.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 11 juin 2011 - 01:03 .

[Kreid]

Stories worth telling usually follow a similar structure.

[Sharpy33]

Flashlegend wrote...

Sharpy33 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Bioware repeats the same story every single time, dude. They aren't original at all.

Disagree

ME2's story was different from all of their other games

The story in ME2 might have been original but it was a very weak one.

How so?

It was a character driven story, the goal of the story was made clear at the beginning, what made the story was great was the companion's stories; the characters drove the story

The universe may not have change a great deal, but there was character development of Joker, Liara, Garrus etc
It made you care more about the story

Reminiscient of the Empire Strikes Back

Modifié par Sharpy33, 11 juin 2011 - 12:01 .

[DarkDragon777]

Yes, but generic storylines are the best, always.

[wr3xl3ss]

Sharpy33 wrote...

Flashlegend wrote...

Sharpy33 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Bioware repeats the same story every single time, dude. They aren't original at all.

Disagree

ME2's story was different from all of their other games

The story in ME2 might have been original but it was a very weak one.

How so?

It was a character driven story, the goal of the story was made clear at the beginning, what made the story was great was the companion's stories; the characters drove the story

The universe may not have change a great deal, but there was character development of Joker, Liara, Garrus etc
It made you care more about the story

Reminiscient of the Empire Strikes Back

More of Lost than exactly Empire Strikes Back. SW, no matter which way you try to slice it, was never character driven, with one single exception of course.

[Sharpy33]

wr3xl3ss wrote...

Sharpy33 wrote...

Flashlegend wrote...

Sharpy33 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Bioware repeats the same story every single time, dude. They aren't original at all.

Disagree

ME2's story was different from all of their other games

The story in ME2 might have been original but it was a very weak one.

How so?

It was a character driven story, the goal of the story was made clear at the beginning, what made the story was great was the companion's stories; the characters drove the story

The universe may not have change a great deal, but there was character development of Joker, Liara, Garrus etc
It made you care more about the story

Reminiscient of the Empire Strikes Back

More of Lost than exactly Empire Strikes Back. SW, no matter which way you try to slice it, was never character driven, with one single exception of course.

The game was 50% loyalty missions which were character driven
(unless you skipped them and we all know what happens then)

[Ron Stoppable]

If you look back at the history of story-telling, dating back before the bible, you will realize there are maybe 5-6 "original" story arcs and millions upon millions derivatives and homages. That's just how it is for art. Every idea has been thought of, it's about how you *present* your idea that makes it unique. Also, you're only taking the over-arching narrative into account. The real story of Mass Effect takes place on a micro level. The macro "STOP DA REEPAS" is only the macro-framework to tie everything together. And I'd say the ME franchise has some of the best micro-level narratives of any videogame to date. The relationship between Shep and literally everyone he meets is different and adds some weight to the universe. So that's where ME is unique, original and where it truly shines..

[wr3xl3ss]

Sharpy33 wrote...

wr3xl3ss wrote...

Sharpy33 wrote...

Flashlegend wrote...

Sharpy33 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Bioware repeats the same story every single time, dude. They aren't original at all.

Disagree

ME2's story was different from all of their other games

The story in ME2 might have been original but it was a very weak one.

How so?

It was a character driven story, the goal of the story was made clear at the beginning, what made the story was great was the companion's stories; the characters drove the story

The universe may not have change a great deal, but there was character development of Joker, Liara, Garrus etc
It made you care more about the story

Reminiscient of the Empire Strikes Back

More of Lost than exactly Empire Strikes Back. SW, no matter which way you try to slice it, was never character driven, with one single exception of course.

The game was 50% loyalty missions which were character driven
(unless you skipped them and we all know what happens then)

Do you even read what other people write? Let's try again...

More of Lost than exactly Empire Strikes Back. SW, no matter which way you try to slice it, was never character driven, with one single exception of course.

SW = Star Wars
ME = Mass Effect

I assume you notice the difference. I never said ME2 wasn't character driven.

[RPGamer13]

I was going to say it kind of reminds me of The Fifth Element.

This mainly attributed to the fact that the cycle in Mass Effect is the same as in The Fifth Element: 5000 years.