For the sake of argument lets say that Shepard chose Morinth over Samara. Shepard is a dead man/woman. The Justicars and Asari Republic will eventually learn of Samara's death, investigate and be lead to Morinth and Shepard. I don't think even a Reaper could survive the backlash of helping an Ardat-Yakshi kill a Justicar becoming common knowledge. Also several members of Shepard's crew noticed/knew something was up(Kasumi, Joker, Kelly). How will the team dynamic change when the crew learns that Shepard betrayed a squad mate in a critical moment? How will this all shift if Morinth returnes as a squad mate in ME3? If she continues her pursuit of Shepard and other crew members? Will the Squad/crew tolerate this? What will Liara think? Discuss.
The trouble with Morinth.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:14
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Well I suppose if I were Shepard, I'd try lying.
"I thought that was Samara? You mean...? Oh crap!"
"I thought that was Samara? You mean...? Oh crap!"
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:14
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I don't think it will be a very big plot-point. I am curious to see how they fit Morinth into the story if you chose her over Samara though. They can't just have Samara's part in the story be completely replacable with Morinth like in ME2 because it's possible they both could have died.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:16
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I dont know about what your squad will think but will there be retribution for killing Samara? How could they prove it surely. And im sure Justicars die in duty, its probably accepted among asari that if you are a Justicar your gonna get yourself killed
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:17
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That would be something I'd like to see actually, it would be a great way to show the weight of your actions if you chose that path. Which I did and I can't wait to see what becomes of it.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:30
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True, but Justicars are revered as more powerful and deadly than the SPECTRES and probably are. The death of one will not go unnoticed or treated lightly as any one capable of defeating a Justicar can become a huge threat.sponge56 wrote...
I dont know about what your squad will think but will there be retribution for killing Samara? How could they prove it surely. And im sure Justicars die in duty, its probably accepted among asari that if you are a Justicar your gonna get yourself killed
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:35
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honestly you could probably play it off as the morally correct choice. I didn't agree with what the justicars were doing at all as their code allowed for no middle ground, and Morinth was kind of forced into her position by her genetics (her only other option was basically imprisonment). So I killed Samara and decided to let Morinth live how she wanted to. Morinth deserved it more than someone who would allow herself to be put in a situation where she would inflict gratuitous harm to innocent people simply because a code had that somewhere in the fine print.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:49
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I will stay by Morinth's side and protect her if other asari will want to kill her again. I actually would tell my team about Morinth if I had a chance, I don't see a problem of bringing anybody I want aboard MY ship, for MY mission. I would be like: Hey everybody meet Morinth. Anybody who doesn't like her can leave my team.
I wonder how would Liara react to an ally like Morinth in ME3.
I wonder how would Liara react to an ally like Morinth in ME3.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:53
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I do think betraying Samara is one of the most evil choices you can make, I would like to see how it would come back to bite you in the ass in ME3. Especially after Samara's last words, "You will regret your choice...."
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 08:57
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Fidget6 wrote...
I do think betraying Samara is one of the most evil choices you can make, I would like to see how it would come back to bite you in the ass in ME3. Especially after Samara's last words, "You will regret your choice...."
I think she reffered to what happens if you mate with Morinth.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:00
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There should be repercussions if you save Morinth, she's essentially a serial killer and while the justicar code is questionable, it's the lesser of two evils by a long way.
Recruiting a killer who will happily kill you, even when the fate of the universe is in question is an especially stupid move for any Commander Shepard and also demonstrates again that Morinth is a blind killer who can't help herself. Therefore, I think there should be negative consequences.
Recruiting a killer who will happily kill you, even when the fate of the universe is in question is an especially stupid move for any Commander Shepard and also demonstrates again that Morinth is a blind killer who can't help herself. Therefore, I think there should be negative consequences.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:02
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Well, Samara does state that she might have to kill Shepard at the end of the mission if he/she does something dishonourable.
Lets just say that when people threaten Jane, their life expectancy tends to drop very sharply.
Lets just say that when people threaten Jane, their life expectancy tends to drop very sharply.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:03
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wildannie wrote...
There should be repercussions if you save Morinth, she's essentially a serial killer and while the justicar code is questionable, it's the lesser of two evils by a long way.
Recruiting a killer who will happily kill you, even when the fate of the universe is in question is an especially stupid move for any Commander Shepard and also demonstrates again that Morinth is a blind killer who can't help herself. Therefore, I think there should be negative consequences.
But what if Morinth trully believes that you won't die? There are several believable reasons that she mentions. And only AFTER the final mission.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:10
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wildannie wrote...
There should be repercussions if you save Morinth, she's essentially a serial killer and while the justicar code is questionable, it's the lesser of two evils by a long way.
Recruiting a killer who will happily kill you, even when the fate of the universe is in question is an especially stupid move for any Commander Shepard and also demonstrates again that Morinth is a blind killer who can't help herself. Therefore, I think there should be negative consequences.
Exactly. Morinth is the only truly "evil" squaddie. That should come into play if you chose to side with her.
Modifié par Fidget6, 11 juin 2011 - 09:13 .
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:12
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I'm pretty interested to see what they do with Morinth in ME 3.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:18
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I don't believe she's evil. she's just a perfectly evolved predator aside from the detail that she can't reproduce. And yeah, that threat Samara made threw me off. If anything I did violated her code, she'd have to kill me after the mission? Well guess who's getting left on the collector base when the bombs go off...
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:22
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D.Kain wrote...
wildannie wrote...
There should be repercussions if you save Morinth, she's essentially a serial killer and while the justicar code is questionable, it's the lesser of two evils by a long way.
Recruiting a killer who will happily kill you, even when the fate of the universe is in question is an especially stupid move for any Commander Shepard and also demonstrates again that Morinth is a blind killer who can't help herself. Therefore, I think there should be negative consequences.
But what if Morinth trully believes that you won't die? There are several believable reasons that she mentions. And only AFTER the final mission.
Did Shepard defeat the Reapers at the end of ME2? I must have missed that
. I'm not saying that there's not a tragic aspect to Morinths character, but she is what she is - an indiscriminate killer - that she can't help it is not good a reason to take her side.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:38
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wildannie wrote...
D.Kain wrote...
wildannie wrote...
There should be repercussions if you save Morinth, she's essentially a serial killer and while the justicar code is questionable, it's the lesser of two evils by a long way.
Recruiting a killer who will happily kill you, even when the fate of the universe is in question is an especially stupid move for any Commander Shepard and also demonstrates again that Morinth is a blind killer who can't help herself. Therefore, I think there should be negative consequences.
But what if Morinth trully believes that you won't die? There are several believable reasons that she mentions. And only AFTER the final mission.
Did Shepard defeat the Reapers at the end of ME2? I must have missed that
I actually think it's a good commander move. You know if you let her loose on a killing rampage for 2 more years and then come back, she would be even stronger and tougher and make a good ally. You would have to be able to handdle her though.
Still it's not wrong to direct Jacks/Grunts rage for example right?
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:45
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Exactly! I thought her ability to become stronger by something so simple and easy for her to do was perfect for a RenShep. What's the harm in her draining a few hundred clubbing spacers out if she becomes an unstoppable biotic machine that can take down a Reaper?
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 09:48
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Skirata129 wrote...
Exactly! I thought her ability to become stronger by something so simple and easy for her to do was perfect for a RenShep. What's the harm in her draining a few hundred clubbing spacers out if she becomes an unstoppable biotic machine that can take down a Reaper?
http://unrealitymag....9/06/force3.jpg
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 10:05
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LOVED that game.D.Kain wrote...
Skirata129 wrote...
Exactly! I thought her ability to become stronger by something so simple and easy for her to do was perfect for a RenShep. What's the harm in her draining a few hundred clubbing spacers out if she becomes an unstoppable biotic machine that can take down a Reaper?
http://unrealitymag....9/06/force3.jpg
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 10:11
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i feel sorry for Morinth truly, don't expect any major change in samara/morinth plot thing
ME3 will be more focused in explosions and the reapers than personal drama
ME3 will be more focused in explosions and the reapers than personal drama
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 10:16
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Morinth is an crazy killer and it was stated as an Ardat-Yakshi the more they sleep with people the more powerful and manipulative they get as well as the need to kill becomes more addictive. Why would I let someone like that on my crew? What if she were to try to kill one teammates or crewmembers? She already tries to kill Shepard with that, "You'll survive" Bs. No thanks, I'll take the Justicar who may or may not try to kill me based on how I am, than the Ardat-Yakshi who will kill you or your squad and has shown that she can trick Shep into sleeping with her. I can always just use Samara's own code against her like Nihlus did if need be.
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Posté 11 juin 2011 - 10:27
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I'd be interested in seeing what happens, I have a friend and I watched his "paragon " playthrough that made tons of sense till he chose Morinth over Samara, because he could deal with a mother killing her child. I really want him yo get his comeuppance for that ridiculous decision.
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