1NOW YOU GET IT! You see her as a vicious animal I see her
as person that needs to be well study
2 no one is willing to give them a chance to see if they can
live a normal life and no one is looking for a cure
3 or force her to kill more to become strong enough to avoid
death
4 grunt first action is to throw Shepard against a wall with
your logic you should have killed him legion is not controllable he wish to
cooperate with Shepard and each is unpredictable as morinth.
Morinth is still an unknown.
Ignorance breeds curiosity… Curiosity leads you answer... Answer
decrease ignorance which just show you that you are even more ignorant then you realize.
Sorry for the vile grammar and punctuation
The trouble with Morinth.
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#277
Posté 29 décembre 2011 - 02:40
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I would like a scene where liara confronts morinth and Shepard threating to turn you in once the reaper wars is over. Thus giving you two choices kill her or morinth
#278
Posté 29 décembre 2011 - 06:31
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AgentMrOrange wrote...
I would like a scene where liara confronts morinth and Shepard threating to turn you in once the reaper wars is over. Thus giving you two choices kill her or morinth
Considering everything Shepard can (and has) done as a Spectre and as a Cerberus agent, I really doubt that Morinth would be the straw that broke the camel's back. You can let insane warlords rule as they please, release an extremely dangerous species into the galaxy, let crime bosses roam around, etc.
#279
Posté 29 décembre 2011 - 07:12
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I'm *hoping that Morinth plays some part in completely enslaving Thessia to her will, after some pretty intense Matriarch abductions, making the entire planet side with Shepard against the Reapers. Obviously this would lose the respect of Liara and Aria, but it would be a *true renegade decision.
#280
Posté 29 décembre 2011 - 12:31
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Morinth is by nature a dangerous serial killer
She refuses to live a quiet harmless life (like her sisters) but instead chose freedom and goes round the galaxy looking for more victims, occasionally setting herself up as a goddess, etc.
While I accept she cannot help what she is and has some right to life it is outweighed by the many lives of her victims
She refuses to live a quiet harmless life (like her sisters) but instead chose freedom and goes round the galaxy looking for more victims, occasionally setting herself up as a goddess, etc.
While I accept she cannot help what she is and has some right to life it is outweighed by the many lives of her victims
#281
Posté 29 décembre 2011 - 12:40
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Hardly. First, a Justicar isn't really that important, they are respected sure, but when it comes down to it, she is just a monk.
Second, Shepard may still be above the law, considering that he is a spectre.
Third, he might have let many dangerous people go without question. The rachni queen who can recreate her entire species in a matter of years, a dangerous terrorist who was about to blow up a planet, many criminals, some slavers. He has also worked with several career criminals, all the while he was serving a terrorist, human supremacy organization. He also blew up a populated system.
One Justicar dead, and one serial killer free, seem hardly relevant.
Second, Shepard may still be above the law, considering that he is a spectre.
Third, he might have let many dangerous people go without question. The rachni queen who can recreate her entire species in a matter of years, a dangerous terrorist who was about to blow up a planet, many criminals, some slavers. He has also worked with several career criminals, all the while he was serving a terrorist, human supremacy organization. He also blew up a populated system.
One Justicar dead, and one serial killer free, seem hardly relevant.
#282
Posté 29 décembre 2011 - 02:22
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She'll probably only have a cameo anyways
#283
Posté 29 décembre 2011 - 11:02
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YES! The Squad is going to find out eventually, some already know, and Shepards decision should cause ripples, especially with the more Paragon leaning characters, the others would be more wary of Shepard, betraying a team member and all on a personal mission. I see Liara, being an Asari and the reverance the Asari have for Justicar and the stigma against Ardat-Yakshi, having a huge issue with this.AgentMrOrange wrote...
I would like a scene where liara confronts morinth and Shepard threating to turn you in once the reaper wars is over. Thus giving you two choices kill her or morinth
#284
Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 03:27
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Liara, tali, and garrus are the only characters I see having
issues with that decision. The VS and Vega really don’t know anything about it
so I would expect a minimal reaction from them. The rest of the ME2 cast got
sideline, but the only one I see having a major reaction to it is liara
I hope morinth isn’t limited to a cameo I want a full
mission with her. She is one of main squaddie in ME2
issues with that decision. The VS and Vega really don’t know anything about it
so I would expect a minimal reaction from them. The rest of the ME2 cast got
sideline, but the only one I see having a major reaction to it is liara
I hope morinth isn’t limited to a cameo I want a full
mission with her. She is one of main squaddie in ME2
#285
Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 06:54
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/\\ A mission involving Morinth will probably involve Shepard putting a bullet in her for the sake of Asari aid in the war after she killed many people (and after shepard set her loose[!!!] ).
#286
Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 07:43
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i killed samara once but went back to the save and killed her daughter. i just couldn't move on with samara gone.
#287
Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 08:00
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Nexis7 wrote...
She'll probably only have a cameo anyways
Hell, I think the most we'll get from Morinth is some news headlines implying that she's causing deaths again.
#288
Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 08:46
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PrinceLionheart wrote...
Hell, I think the most we'll get from Morinth is some news headlines implying that she's causing deaths again.
Now, now, I'm sure we'll all get a nice email too.
#289
Posté 11 janvier 2012 - 11:23
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I think they should have a huge reaction to Shepard's decision. He/She killed a teammate on a personal mission and for what? A known murderer. Some of the team may not say anything or take the Reapers as a priority but I can't see Anyone trusting shepard after this.AgentMrOrange wrote...
Liara, tali, and garrus are the only characters I see having
issues with that decision. The VS and Vega really don’t know anything about it
so I would expect a minimal reaction from them. The rest of the ME2 cast got
sideline, but the only one I see having a major reaction to it is liara
I hope morinth isn’t limited to a cameo I want a full
mission with her. She is one of main squaddie in ME2
#290
Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 02:18
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What isn't a problem with Mornith? She's your psycho girlfriend choice #2 with a superiority complex and A COMPULTION TO KILL!
Next to Jack she's the worst squad person BW made for the series, another wtf choice in people who should join shep. What all the sane people claimed they were busy that day? BW really expects players to believe that out of THE ENTIRE GALAXY and ALL THE BIOTICS HELD WITHIN it that not two sane ones could be bothered to volunteer in the system? Athena would've worked she's a biotic and has lots of experience or any Asari commando for that matter.
Though more to OPs point I think hell should be sent down onto shep for killing a Justicar I think that alone should make the Asari homeworld not welcome or help Shep at all if anything it should make them ban shep from their planet and space as well as they go it alone and try to beat the reapers on their own with their own fleet and their own allies and die.
Samara's death because of shep choosing Mornith over her should be flagged and the Asari make it harder for the player who chose this fate to get help from the Salarians and the Turians both these races will put up the walls and make shep have to work harder and their relationship over the course of the game will be more fragile. Those players who killed Samara on the SM will not have this obstacle because she died while on mission not because the Shep thought an extra add on of psycho was needed on his ship.
The crew or at least some of them should react negatively, positively, and others should outright leave I think Gardner, Chakwas, Ken and Gabby would leave the ship because of this betrayal, Kelly might come around seeing how much she can't leave alien's alone, and the remaining npcs would be divided.
If Samara dies while on the SM I think we should get more bad characters in the world and our enemies of the unaffiliated and shady variety will become harder and have more men and guns at their disposal. We could possibly see a surge in Yakshi gangs coming out of the wood work to not only kill npcs in the news but also come after shep as punishment for siding with a Justicar.
If the player killed the council and killed Samara during the SM the world will become even more unstable and maybe the player would get out right attacked or have to be called to back up another crew member if you're in port and they come under attack the player would have a time limit to reach them and provide help they wouldn't be a simple run up a flight of stairs and turn right type of event they'd radio in from another ward you'd have to catch a shuttle to help them. If the player fails invisible dice is rolled 50% chance the crewmen who was attacked will die or they will be injured and live but will forever have a strained relationship with Shep.
Next to Jack she's the worst squad person BW made for the series, another wtf choice in people who should join shep. What all the sane people claimed they were busy that day? BW really expects players to believe that out of THE ENTIRE GALAXY and ALL THE BIOTICS HELD WITHIN it that not two sane ones could be bothered to volunteer in the system? Athena would've worked she's a biotic and has lots of experience or any Asari commando for that matter.
Though more to OPs point I think hell should be sent down onto shep for killing a Justicar I think that alone should make the Asari homeworld not welcome or help Shep at all if anything it should make them ban shep from their planet and space as well as they go it alone and try to beat the reapers on their own with their own fleet and their own allies and die.
Samara's death because of shep choosing Mornith over her should be flagged and the Asari make it harder for the player who chose this fate to get help from the Salarians and the Turians both these races will put up the walls and make shep have to work harder and their relationship over the course of the game will be more fragile. Those players who killed Samara on the SM will not have this obstacle because she died while on mission not because the Shep thought an extra add on of psycho was needed on his ship.
The crew or at least some of them should react negatively, positively, and others should outright leave I think Gardner, Chakwas, Ken and Gabby would leave the ship because of this betrayal, Kelly might come around seeing how much she can't leave alien's alone, and the remaining npcs would be divided.
If Samara dies while on the SM I think we should get more bad characters in the world and our enemies of the unaffiliated and shady variety will become harder and have more men and guns at their disposal. We could possibly see a surge in Yakshi gangs coming out of the wood work to not only kill npcs in the news but also come after shep as punishment for siding with a Justicar.
If the player killed the council and killed Samara during the SM the world will become even more unstable and maybe the player would get out right attacked or have to be called to back up another crew member if you're in port and they come under attack the player would have a time limit to reach them and provide help they wouldn't be a simple run up a flight of stairs and turn right type of event they'd radio in from another ward you'd have to catch a shuttle to help them. If the player fails invisible dice is rolled 50% chance the crewmen who was attacked will die or they will be injured and live but will forever have a strained relationship with Shep.
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#291
Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 02:39
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This. IMO this kind of decision is the dictionary definition of a Renegade choice. Killing the only person on the normandy who you know you can trust and believe, for what?! A bit of morbid curiosity??
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Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 02:44
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You must have had quite the Shep if Samara was the only one he/she could trust.mybudgee wrote...
This. IMO this kind of decision is the dictionary definition of a Renegade choice. Killing the only person on the normandy who you know you can trust and believe, for what?! A bit of morbid curiosity??
#293
Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 02:45
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While i can understand some people might save Morinth from Samara when Samara lashes out at her and she appeals to your sense of decency (I was born this way, I don't have a choice!), you have to keep your eye on the big picture:
She has been murdering innocent people for power and kicks going close on 400 years. Her hands are utterly stained in blood and there's no reason to believe she's going to stop now...
She has been murdering innocent people for power and kicks going close on 400 years. Her hands are utterly stained in blood and there's no reason to believe she's going to stop now...
#294
Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 03:11
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Spoiledrotten wrote...
PrinceLionheart wrote...
Hell, I think the most we'll get from Morinth is some news headlines implying that she's causing deaths again.
Now, now, I'm sure we'll all get a nice email too.
That hints at her teaming up to murder people with Billy.
#295
Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 03:32
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Monrinth is indeed the Eviliest of the squadmates in 2 *that's saying something with Jack, Zaeed or Thane around*
Everybody keeps bringing up Morinth has no choice in her birth defect... True
Morinth however has chosen a life of, Predator, Sex and Death. It be one thing if she traveled the galaxy with no intent to harm anyone instead of being like her sisters living in isolation, but Morinth enjoys the killing.
Killing Samara to spare Morinth is in my opinion like the Rachni choice, dispite all knowledge you can obtain leading into it... the only reason you picked Morinth or Killing the Queen is.. your an evil SoB to begins with.
Everybody keeps bringing up Morinth has no choice in her birth defect... True
Morinth however has chosen a life of, Predator, Sex and Death. It be one thing if she traveled the galaxy with no intent to harm anyone instead of being like her sisters living in isolation, but Morinth enjoys the killing.
Killing Samara to spare Morinth is in my opinion like the Rachni choice, dispite all knowledge you can obtain leading into it... the only reason you picked Morinth or Killing the Queen is.. your an evil SoB to begins with.
#296
Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 03:48
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Yeah sure, the only recruitable teammate that promises you that she will kill you (or at least try to) after the mission is over and she is released from the oath.mybudgee wrote...
This. IMO this kind of decision is the dictionary definition of a Renegade choice. Killing the only person on the normandy who you know you can trust and believe, for what?! A bit of morbid curiosity??
The rachni queen is a direct clone with all the memories thus making her the reincarnation of a warrior queen that tried to destroy all other races in the galaxy. Her only defense is pretty much "Come on fella, there is no way I am trying to be omnicidal again." There is absolutely no reason to trust that an omnicidal maniac is going to be good just because they said they would. Just because the writers prefer all the paragon choices to be guilt-free does not mean the renegade choice was evil.WarGriffin wrote...
Killing Samara to spare Morinth is in my opinion like the Rachni choice, dispite all knowledge you can obtain leading into it... the only reason you picked Morinth or Killing the Queen is.. your an evil SoB to begins with.
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#297
Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 04:00
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What i dont understand is, why would anyone choose to save Morinth?
For gameplay effectiveness, Reave is much better than Dominate.
For lore perspective, Morinth is not stronger than Samara, they are equally powerful, as we can see in the fight cutscene. Samara already sworn her loyalty to you, and Morinth is a crazy space vampire who is a loose cannon with no loyalty or gratitude at all for Shepard, so why, why would anyone choose her over Samara? I dont see any Para/Rene here, even Shepard is a selfish ruthless Renegade, still he/she has no reson at all to choose Morinth over Samara.
For gameplay effectiveness, Reave is much better than Dominate.
For lore perspective, Morinth is not stronger than Samara, they are equally powerful, as we can see in the fight cutscene. Samara already sworn her loyalty to you, and Morinth is a crazy space vampire who is a loose cannon with no loyalty or gratitude at all for Shepard, so why, why would anyone choose her over Samara? I dont see any Para/Rene here, even Shepard is a selfish ruthless Renegade, still he/she has no reson at all to choose Morinth over Samara.
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#298
Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 04:03
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She was pretty gracious for you helping her kill the hunter trying to kill her for hundreds of years and pledges her loyalty to afterwards. It is no more a risk than say...trusting an omnicidal alien bug queen is going to be peaceful just because she said so.
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Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 04:07
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well i admit she seems pretty grateful at first, if thiswww.youtube.com/watch did not happen id say it was a good call.
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Posté 12 janvier 2012 - 04:32
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Except that is optional and Shepard flat out points out she knows it is a bad idea and you as a player have to be a complete idiot to do that. It is not like Morinth pressures you into sex or something actually regrettable. She just propositions you while you know your brain will hemmorhage and you will die if you have sex with her. Morinth stays completely loyal after the base, does not run away, betray, or any of the sort.
