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[AgentMrOrange]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

My Renegon saved her because she saw her as being similar to herself, since she's a murderer living in the moment.

I do hope they do something with her besides a cameo.

you and me both i would love to help her free her sisters

*snip*

 bye bye just means more space for me

Well now I'm staying just to spite you. 

YAY now we can carry on our lovely conversations 

Indeed. 

http://t2.gstatic.co...hixv7140hwOrXow

*sips tea* indubitable

[Izhalezan]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

My Renegon saved her because she saw her as being similar to herself, since she's a murderer living in the moment.

I do hope they do something with her besides a cameo.

you and me both i would love to help her free her sisters

Not really. My self-insert paragade helps Samara kill her, because she's a unjust murderer. Though I would have prefer arresting her, locking her up. But Mass Effect barely allows that option.

I agree, how everything would be so simple if you could just lock someone up.

I know right? batman solved so many problems locking up each of those villians for the upteenth time after they escaped and went back to murdering.

[BatmanPWNS]

Izhalezan wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

My Renegon saved her because she saw her as being similar to herself, since she's a murderer living in the moment.

I do hope they do something with her besides a cameo.

you and me both i would love to help her free her sisters

Not really. My self-insert paragade helps Samara kill her, because she's a unjust murderer. Though I would have prefer arresting her, locking her up. But Mass Effect barely allows that option.

I agree, how everything would be so simple if you could just lock someone up.

I know right? batman solved so many problems locking up each of those villians for the upteenth time after they escaped and went back to murdering.

Yes let us all compare a super hero comic book (which needs returning villians) to a video game!

[Eclipse_9990]

Izhalezan wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

My Renegon saved her because she saw her as being similar to herself, since she's a murderer living in the moment.

I do hope they do something with her besides a cameo.

you and me both i would love to help her free her sisters

Not really. My self-insert paragade helps Samara kill her, because she's a unjust murderer. Though I would have prefer arresting her, locking her up. But Mass Effect barely allows that option.

I agree, how everything would be so simple if you could just lock someone up.

I know right? batman solved so many problems locking up each of those villians for the upteenth time after they escaped and went back to murdering.

Are you questioning Batmans judgement!? 

Yeah as much as I like Batman I wouldn't trust him to deal with Morinth. I'm happy with just killing her. 

[AgentMrOrange]

 best option kill Religious zealot keep the psycho where you can see her   

[TMA LIVE]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

My Renegon saved her because she saw her as being similar to herself, since she's a murderer living in the moment.

I do hope they do something with her besides a cameo.

you and me both i would love to help her free her sisters

Not really. My self-insert paragade helps Samara kill her, because she's a unjust murderer. Though I would have prefer arresting her, locking her up. But Mass Effect barely allows that option.

I agree, how everything would be so simple if you could just lock someone up.

But if you locked Morinth up she would just end up seducing the guard, and getting out anyway. 

Not if Legion watches her. And if she tries using her Biotics, I'll launch her out into space, or vent out all her air.

[BatmanPWNS]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Izhalezan wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

My Renegon saved her because she saw her as being similar to herself, since she's a murderer living in the moment.

I do hope they do something with her besides a cameo.

you and me both i would love to help her free her sisters

Not really. My self-insert paragade helps Samara kill her, because she's a unjust murderer. Though I would have prefer arresting her, locking her up. But Mass Effect barely allows that option.

I agree, how everything would be so simple if you could just lock someone up.

I know right? batman solved so many problems locking up each of those villians for the upteenth time after they escaped and went back to murdering.

Are you questioning Batmans judgement!? 

Yeah as much as I like Batman I wouldn't trust him to deal with Morinth. I'm happy with just killing her. 

Who know? He may lock her up in a secret cell where no one can find her...................... forever.

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 13 janvier 2012 - 11:21 .

[Eclipse_9990]

AgentMrOrange wrote...

 best option kill Religious zealot keep the psycho where you can see her   

Lol wut? Religious Zealot? Samara? She's just dedicated, and does what she has to. Besides the only people she kills are criminals/people who generally deserve it. Plus Samara feels sort of guilty of what she's done. While Morinth kills anything, and everything that moves, and Morinth doesn't feel guilty at all, and intends to do even more. 

Also Outright murderous psycho(Morinth) is not a better option than religious zealot(Samara(lol wut?),Enkindler Fanatic). To even insinuate this is just asinine. 

TMA LIVE wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

My Renegon saved her because she saw her as being similar to herself, since she's a murderer living in the moment. 

I do hope they do something with her besides a cameo.

you and me both i would love to help her free her sisters

Not really. My self-insert paragade helps Samara kill her, because she's a unjust murderer. Though I would have prefer arresting her, locking her up. But Mass Effect barely allows that option.

I agree, how everything would be so simple if you could just lock someone up.

But if you locked Morinth up she would just end up seducing the guard, and getting out anyway. 

Not if Legion watches her. And if she tries using her Biotics, I'll launch her out into space, or vent out all her air.

Or we could just kill her without locking her up first.... Theres that option. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2012 - 11:22 .

[TMA LIVE]

Izhalezan wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

My Renegon saved her because she saw her as being similar to herself, since she's a murderer living in the moment.

I do hope they do something with her besides a cameo.

you and me both i would love to help her free her sisters

Not really. My self-insert paragade helps Samara kill her, because she's a unjust murderer. Though I would have prefer arresting her, locking her up. But Mass Effect barely allows that option.

I agree, how everything would be so simple if you could just lock someone up.

I know right? batman solved so many problems locking up each of those villians for the upteenth time after they escaped and went back to murdering.

Hey, it ain't Batman's fault that Gotham has ****ty security, police, and a prison where everyone get's out every year. I mean seriously, we're going to blame a vililante for not killing the criminals he captures, yet put no blame on the thousands of people that should be doing his job for him, and being paid for it?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 13 janvier 2012 - 11:20 .

[Eclipse_9990]

 

Boost32 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...



DID you kill her instead of Morinth? Seems she made a threat - but you're the one who acted upon it. What does that make you?

a smart person

Oh yeah. Its totally smart to get rid of the person who "might" kill you for the person who "WILL" kill you, and tries to do this often. Yeah you're a genius. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2012 - 11:27 .

[AgentMrOrange]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

 best option kill Religious zealot keep the psycho where you can see her   

Lol wut? Religious Zealot? Samara? She's just dedicated, and does what she has to. Besides the only people she kills are criminals/people who generally deserve it. Plus Samara feels sort of guilty of what she's done. While Morinth kills anything, and everything that moves, and Morinth doesn't feel guilty at all, and intends to do even more. 

Also Outright murderous psycho(Morinth) is not a better option than religious zealot(Samara(lol wut?),Enkindler Fanatic). To even insinuate this is just asinine. 


*snip*

Samara follow her code blindly never questioning if it right
or wrong

To me that a religious zealot

Never questioning one owns motivation or faith is wrong and
who says morinth doesn’t feel guilty or bad about it maybe she just never shows
it or maybe she process emotional guilt quickly

[Medhia Nox]

You guys haven't met too many religious zealots I'd wager... cause Samara isn't one.

Basically she says: "I have an opinion based on a philosophy of my people."

And you guys go: "OMG, don't judge me! But, I'm gonna judge you - you crazy zealot who just... sits there.... and... meditates."

The fact that she wants to end the evil that is her psychotic daughter doesn't have to have anything to do with "religion" - if my son were a sexual predator/serial killer I'd want him behind bars permanently, and I would painfully accept the death penalty.

Samara knew what would happen if she tried to bring her back - she's an Ardat Yakshi that refuses to try a little self-control - they'd probably kill her in any Asari court of law (and they'd certainly sentence her to life/death penalty in most human courts too). Samara probably just didn't want to have someone else deal with the evil she brought into the world(s).

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@AgentMrOrange: I hope English is your second language.

She does question it... she just doesn't emo-vent to you about it. You know - when someone has pain over something and wants to be alone and think things through... it's not because they're just stoned off their rocker and needing a nap.

Honestly - Bioware needs to spell everything out.

Instead of voice intonation - and modes of speech... they should all just say exactly what they mean and what they're thinking.

Samara: Shepard, I am very confused - with a mixture of resentment and probably some anger. I'm also sad - but I'm trying to work through it - I need time, but I also don't want to sit on my laurels... I need to "do" something... etc. etc. blah blah blah.

Every character should be an Elcor just to make sure people 'get it'.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 13 janvier 2012 - 11:37 .

[silentassassin264]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

 

Boost32 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...



DID you kill her instead of Morinth? Seems she made a threat - but you're the one who acted upon it. What does that make you?

a smart person

Oh yeah. Its totally smart to get rid of the person who "might" kill you for the person who "WILL" kill you, and tries to do this often. Yeah you're a genius. 

Samara seems to be a woman (Asari) of her word.  If she says she is going to kill you after the mission, I would take that threat seriously.  Second, when you turn Morinth down because you are not a moron, Morinth specifically says she won't pressure you or anything and she is just waiting in case you change your mind.  In other words, Morinth will not kill (unless you are a moron) and Samara will more than likely try to.  So yeah, it is the smart thing to do, at least in that aspect. 

[Eclipse_9990]

silentassassin264 wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

 

Boost32 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...



DID you kill her instead of Morinth? Seems she made a threat - but you're the one who acted upon it. What does that make you?

a smart person

Oh yeah. Its totally smart to get rid of the person who "might" kill you for the person who "WILL" kill you, and tries to do this often. Yeah you're a genius. 

Samara seems to be a woman (Asari) of her word.  If she says she is going to kill you after the mission, I would take that threat seriously.  Second, when you turn Morinth down because you are not a moron, Morinth specifically says she won't pressure you or anything and she is just waiting in case you change your mind.  In other words, Morinth will not kill (unless you are a moron) and Samara will more than likely try to.  So yeah, it is the smart thing to do, at least in that aspect. 

Samara said she'll kill if you you're an evil SOB. I don't even think Renegade shep is that evil. So yeah.. Paranoia everywhere. 

AgentMrOrange wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

 best option kill Religious zealot keep the psycho where you can see her   

Lol wut? Religious Zealot? Samara? She's just dedicated, and does what she has to. Besides the only people she kills are criminals/people who generally deserve it. Plus Samara feels sort of guilty of what she's done. While Morinth kills anything, and everything that moves, and Morinth doesn't feel guilty at all, and intends to do even more. 

Also Outright murderous psycho(Morinth) is not a better option than religious zealot(Samara(lol wut?),Enkindler Fanatic). To even insinuate this is just asinine. 


*snip*

Samara follow her code blindly never questioning if it right
or wrong 

To me that a religious zealot 

Never questioning one owns motivation or faith is wrong and
who says morinth doesn’t feel guilty or bad about it maybe she just never shows
it or maybe she process emotional guilt quickly

Look at Medhia Nox's post. He/she said everything perfectly, and completely shut down your argument. The Justicar code isn't religious its philisophical, and she does question her code, but she's not the type to constantly whine/**** about it. She even mentions its best to keep personal problems to yourself. 

I'm just making an assumption here, but It seems you're blinded by religious prejudice, and are using it against a person who you assume to be religious, and even worse you're using it to justify rescuing, and protecting an unrepentant homocidal maniac. 

Quite the amusing fellow you are. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2012 - 11:43 .

[silentassassin264]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

 

Boost32 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...



DID you kill her instead of Morinth? Seems she made a threat - but you're the one who acted upon it. What does that make you?

a smart person

Oh yeah. Its totally smart to get rid of the person who "might" kill you for the person who "WILL" kill you, and tries to do this often. Yeah you're a genius. 

Samara seems to be a woman (Asari) of her word.  If she says she is going to kill you after the mission, I would take that threat seriously.  Second, when you turn Morinth down because you are not a moron, Morinth specifically says she won't pressure you or anything and she is just waiting in case you change your mind.  In other words, Morinth will not kill (unless you are a moron) and Samara will more than likely try to.  So yeah, it is the smart thing to do, at least in that aspect. 

Samara said she'll kill if you you're an evil SOB. I don't even think Renegade shep is that evil. So yeah.. Paranoia everywhere. 

No she doesn't.  If your renegade bar is higher than your paragon bar, she says she will have to kill you after the mission.  I already explained that earlier since most of you seem to have never played a renegade character.  

[AgentMrOrange]

I really don’t talk to samara and the few time I let her live I found her to be extremely boring character. Could you please post the a link to a video showing this questioning of her code

I will admit to being prejudice against some religions not all mainly the ones that use fear to control you. I have bad experience with those religions and people of those religions
And English is my 26th language
Pyscho is my first
 sorry for the wait muti tasking

Modifié par AgentMrOrange, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:01 .

[Eclipse_9990]

silentassassin264 wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

 

Boost32 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...



DID you kill her instead of Morinth? Seems she made a threat - but you're the one who acted upon it. What does that make you?

a smart person

Oh yeah. Its totally smart to get rid of the person who "might" kill you for the person who "WILL" kill you, and tries to do this often. Yeah you're a genius. 

Samara seems to be a woman (Asari) of her word.  If she says she is going to kill you after the mission, I would take that threat seriously.  Second, when you turn Morinth down because you are not a moron, Morinth specifically says she won't pressure you or anything and she is just waiting in case you change your mind.  In other words, Morinth will not kill (unless you are a moron) and Samara will more than likely try to.  So yeah, it is the smart thing to do, at least in that aspect. 

Samara said she'll kill if you you're an evil SOB. I don't even think Renegade shep is that evil. So yeah.. Paranoia everywhere. 

No she doesn't.  If your renegade bar is higher than your paragon bar, she says she will have to kill you after the mission.  I already explained that earlier since most of you seem to have never played a renegade character.  

HA! Good thing I'm a Paragade then. I don't have to worry about that crap. 

AgentMrOrange wrote...

I really don’t talk to samara and the few time I let her live I found her to be extremely boring character. Could you please post the a link to a video showing this questioning of her code 

I will admit to being prejudice against some religions not all mainly the ones that use fear to control you. I have bad experience with those religions and people of those religions 
And English is my 26th language 
Pyscho is my first 

I don't have a video, but as for the religious thing you have even less reason to judge Samara now. She mentions tthat her PHILISOPHICAL CODE(In caps to stress the point I'm making) is close to Buddhism, with a bit of samurai philosphy mixed in.

[Harlequin2]

Here's all the pros I can come up with for choosing Morinth:
- Samara actually states that you will be enemies after her duty to you ends if you're a high enough renegade (and the whole thing with Arrival doesn't help). Choosing Morinth is a way to get this threat out of the way, whilst still keeping a biotic specialist on the team.
- Depending on how you play your Shepard, you may find Morinth the personality that he or she better relates to (in any aspect, such as the free spirt or the being a ruthless predator). Dispite Morinth's track record, it's possible for some people to find her preferable.
- Tactically, from a point of view Morinth is more useful due to her control over organics, along with already possessing strong biotic skill and her mother's looks (to infiltrate). Her more eye-level knowledge of the criminal underworld may also come in handy.
- From one point of view, the Samara and Morinth conflict has little to do with the bigger scheme of things. Some people may play their Shepard to be a "I'll do this for the kicks" kind of guy/gal, and choosing Morinth may well come down to a flip of a coin in Shepard's head. Or, Morinth might have more sex appeal for that particular Shepard.

[Izhalezan]

silentassassin264 wrote...


No she doesn't.  If your renegade bar is higher than your paragon bar, she says she will have to kill you after the mission.  I already explained that earlier since most of you seem to have never played a renegade character.  

Hmm, when and where, I don't remember this.

[angry_peon]

I don't recall her saying this. From my memory there are two things she says going somewhat into this direction.
1. If you are considerably Renegade she says your meeting would have ended in violence if not for her code.
2. If you make her do something that is against her code (basically killing an innocent, or perhaps letting someoneyou could save die), she would have to kill you.

Perhaps I am wrong, because my last Renegade playthrough was quite some time ago.
If I am, I would like to know when Samara basically says: "As soon as this mission is over, you are a dead Shep."
She does not say anything after the actual SM, does she?

Modifié par Varhjhin, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:10 .

[Eclipse_9990]

Harlequin2 wrote...

- Tactically, from a point of view Morinth is more useful due to her control over organics, along with already possessing strong biotic skill and her mother's looks (to infiltrate). Her more eye-level knowledge of the criminal underworld may also come in handy.

I always thought Reave was more useful.

[BatmanPWNS]

People saying Samara will kill you will be soooooooooooooooooo (x1000) disappointed when ME3 comes out.

[silentassassin264]

Izhalezan wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...


No she doesn't.  If your renegade bar is higher than your paragon bar, she says she will have to kill you after the mission.  I already explained that earlier since most of you seem to have never played a renegade character.  

Hmm, when and where, I don't remember this.

I am trying to find a video but it is after her loyalty mission if you keep her.

Youtube seems to have a billion romance videos though.

Modifié par silentassassin264, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:19 .

[AgentMrOrange]

^ if you find i will be shock no one seem to have a renegade version of it 
Buddhism is a religion
Religion is simply define as your belief system and how you view what is morally right and wrong

Modifié par AgentMrOrange, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:22 .

[Eclipse_9990]

AgentMrOrange wrote...

Buddhism is a religion
Religion is simply define as your belief system and how you view what is morally right and wrong

She said its LIKE buddism, and thats if Shepard wanted a comparison, and also. How does this make her a religious zealot again? I eagerly await your explanation. 

BatmanPWNS wrote...

People saying Samara will kill you will be soooooooooooooooooo (x1000) disappointed when ME3 comes out.

Heh. Even if she did kill you whats the better option? The Justicar killing you? Or the Psychopath killing you, then going on a killing spree? 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:23 .