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You assume it will matter given OMG REAPERS

and it won't matter.

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It might have a big impact, and it might be negligible. It could be along the lines of saving/killing Wrex in the first game; a united or divided Tuchanka. Perhaps recruiting Morinth removes the Asari Republics as a potential ally in ME3? Or perhaps nobody actually cares, because Samara is kind of demented in her own right. For record, I choose Samara every time, with the exception of my RenFemShep, and that was only so I could see the cutscene and unlock Dominate.

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Wojtek the Soldier Bear wrote...

It might have a big impact, and it might be negligible. It could be along the lines of saving/killing Wrex in the first game; a united or divided Tuchanka. Perhaps recruiting Morinth removes the Asari Republics as a potential ally in ME3? Or perhaps nobody actually cares, because Samara is kind of demented in her own right. For record, I choose Samara every time, with the exception of my RenFemShep, and that was only so I could see the cutscene and unlock Dominate.


The asari aren't that petty.  Plus, they might not know.

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Well I suppose if I were Shepard, I'd try lying.

"I thought that was Samara? You mean...? Oh crap!"

You know, that could actually work, because of Morinth's eerie ability to perfectly mimic Samara's voice.

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Interesting to see all the support for Morinth. I myself sympathize with her but it is important to remember that she is not a victim. She may have her affliction but she consciously chooses to be a serial killer. The choice to side with her does not carry as much weight as other Major choices but I think it should. If any choice Shepard has ever made could cause a schism within the crew it would be this. I truly cannot imagine that Garrus, Liara or Tali would be cool with Shepard blatantly betraying a squadmate during a mission.

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Morinth is the strongest squadmate Shepard can have.

Maybe not now, but eventually, Morinth WILL be the most powerful Asari in existence.

Now, at the age of approx. 440 years old, she challenges an Asari Justicar nearing, or in, her Matriarchal stage.

When Morinth hits the Matriarchal Stage, she'll be incredibly powerful.

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RPGamer13 wrote...

That would be something I'd like to see actually, it would be a great way to show the weight of your actions if you chose that path. Which I did and I can't wait to see what becomes of it.


Me too. I would love if this became an issue at some point, but I'm doubtful it will be. The Reapers are invading, if it has any kind of impact it will be minor. How would anyone really know Morinth isn't Samara? Samara only spoke to Shep about Morinth and there were only three people in the room when Samara died. People might suspect something is up but there's no way they would know for sure what really is going on, unless Morinth starts slipping up and kills someone on your team or something... which could be an interesting, and horrible turn of events.

Modifié par PurebredCorn, 11 juin 2011 - 04:46 .


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the asari won't care... THE FREAKIN GALAXY IS BEING INVADED.

priorities man

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You learn that Morinth is the secret weapon against the Reapers. All she has to do is meld with one and she kills it instantly.

All you need to do is arouse her enough and she'll go on an orgy of killing.

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PurebredCorn wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...

That would be something I'd like to see actually, it would be a great way to show the weight of your actions if you chose that path. Which I did and I can't wait to see what becomes of it.


Me too. I would love if this became an issue at some point, but I'm doubtful it will be. The Reapers are invading, if it has any kind of impact it will be minor. How would anyone really know Morinth isn't Samara? Samara only spoke to Shep about Morinth and there were only three people in the room when Samara died. People might suspect somethings up but there's no way they would know for sure what really is going on, unless Morinth starts slipping up and kills someone on your team or something... which could be an interesting turn of events.

Kasumi saw through Morinth's mask and Joker and Kelly noticed that something was strange as well. Remember that Morinth is addicted to seduction and murder. It is only a matter of time.

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Kakistos_ wrote...

 Remember that Morinth is addicted to seduction and murder. It is only a matter of time.


...Which is why I pointed it out.

Modifié par PurebredCorn, 11 juin 2011 - 04:27 .


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Uh yeah. Samara threatened my life when I was playing a Renegade. So... go with the psychopathic killer who recognizes strength and thus won't kill me or the psychopathic moral crusader who threatened my life if I did something she didn't like... Yeah. That's a tough call.

Seriously, if I go against her code? I don't want to get killed by some stuck up blue bint because I only tipped my waiter 10%, thank you very much.

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I doubt it would matter much during this crysis. Priorities people. Priorities. However since Justicars are highly respected by the Asari I'd call it a safe bet that Liara, being the shadow broker, finds out about this and get's pretty darn mad at Shepard for killing a justicar. Naturally this won't be in the game but hypothetically speaking I think only Liara would be mad at you, the rest of the galaxy probably won't know/won't care.

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Robhuzz wrote...

I doubt it would matter much during this crysis. Priorities people. Priorities. However since Justicars are highly respected by the Asari I'd call it a safe bet that Liara, being the shadow broker, finds out about this and get's pretty darn mad at Shepard for killing a justicar. Naturally this won't be in the game but hypothetically speaking I think only Liara would be mad at you, the rest of the galaxy probably won't know/won't care.


Yeah, I think the most likely way it will play out is that you just wont have a reliable character (Samara) to back you up on a certain mission, if that.

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Robhuzz wrote...

I doubt it would matter much during this crysis. Priorities people. Priorities. However since Justicars are highly respected by the Asari I'd call it a safe bet that Liara, being the shadow broker, finds out about this and get's pretty darn mad at Shepard for killing a justicar. Naturally this won't be in the game but hypothetically speaking I think only Liara would be mad at you, the rest of the galaxy probably won't know/won't care.

I agree that the Reaper invasion will be the priority but assuming that the Reapers are beaten back and Shepard survives he/she is doomed. People can already link together Samara and Shepard and it is likely that Samara's Justicar comrades know of her mission. WHEN Morinth starts killing again people will be able to lonk Shepard to Samara's disappearence and investigate. And Justicars are akin to the SPECTRES is reverence. The galaxy will care.

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All they REALLY have to go on is the detective, who saw Samara swear the oath to Shepard. Shep can say she died ANYWHERE in combat or died on the suicide mission.
Of course, this assumes Morinth has hit the bricks and/or stopped pretending to be Samara.

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It will be... interesting. I've never chosen Morinth- she just doesn't do it for me- but in the hands of the right Shepard, she could become a deadly tool. Think about it- Shepard will have high-ranking people who might oppose them. Send Morinth after them. Need to get information? Send Morinth.

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if ME3 doesnt acknowledge morinth, then how am i supposed to use dominate?

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I know what Kelly Chambers say if you recruit Morinth, but what does everyone else say?

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They should have Morinth kill one of your squaddies in ME3.

Or perhaps have her kill joker.

Side with a serial killer?  Someone you care about gets killed.

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Trakarg wrote...

They should have Morinth kill one of your squaddies in ME3.

Or perhaps have her kill joker.

Side with a serial killer?  Someone you care about gets killed.


They should have Samara kill one of your squaddies in ME3. 

They jaywalk, BAM WARP BOMB TO THE FACE.

Side with a lawful stupid Paladin? Someone you care about gets killed.

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It's really kind of a pity that we didn't get to know Morinth's character better aside from the stupid "romance" crap. It would have been cool to ask her a little bit about the young girl she killed or just get her side of the story on everything she's done over the past 400 years that she's been running from her mom. I mean for all we know she could be like Dexter Morgan and only seduces other killers, or maybe she really is as evil as her mother says she is. We only know that she kills people, we know nothing about the people she chooses or why. Samara hasn't spoken to her daughter in 400 years. People change, how can we be sure that what she is saying is accurate anymore? It's just a pity that we are forced into assuming the worst.

Modifié par PurebredCorn, 11 juin 2011 - 06:45 .


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Trakarg wrote...

They should have Morinth kill one of your squaddies in ME3.

Or perhaps have her kill joker.

Side with a serial killer?  Someone you care about gets killed.

This I would like to see. Do you think that Grunt would be able to resist Morinth's wiles? Or maybe she will decide that she doesn't need permission to "meld" with one of the crew. She's addicted!

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I only sided with Morinth once and that was one of my ME2 default Shepards and everyone died at the collector base, so I won't be importing that file. So no Morinth in any of my games, she is just wrong.

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Morinth>>>>>>>>>>>>.Samara

No matter if you're paragon or renegade Shepard mass-murdered 300,000 Batarians men,women, elderly, and children.

The justicar code compels Samara to seek justice for those killed.

Moirinth will understand what you did and try to comfort you ( just don't sleep with her)