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[Medhia Nox]

I hope Morinth starts sucking the life force out of your oh so interesting NPC squad-mates.

I'd also love to see how many Shepards are just "shocked" that she would do that.

[D.Kain]

Medhia Nox wrote...

I hope Morinth starts sucking the life force out of your oh so interesting NPC squad-mates.

I'd also love to see how many Shepards are just "shocked" that she would do that.

I'd let her knock herself out as long as she doesn't touch the important ones.

[Notanything]

D.Kain wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

I hope Morinth starts sucking the life force out of your oh so interesting NPC squad-mates.

I'd also love to see how many Shepards are just "shocked" that she would do that.

I'd let her knock herself out as long as she doesn't touch the important ones.

I can agree with that.

[Medhia Nox]

Oh, you guys are so renegade.

[ObserverStatus]

If Shepard has made certain choices that Samara disagrees with, he's going to have an elite biotic commando hunting for him. A serial killer like Morinth, on the other hand, is a problem below his pay grade, and is more likely to leave him alone. She isn't an idiot, she knows that preying on friends of Shepard is not in her best interest. I would have preferred an option to kill them both (that doesn't involve carefully planned suicide missions and meta-gaming.) but Samara is a greater threat to Shepard, and therefore the galaxy.

[Medhia Nox]

@bobobo878 - you ignored the part where Samara says that Shepard's morals are her own when she sword allegiance to him... didn't you? ((And ignored the post I just made about it further up)).

[Notanything]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Oh, you guys are so renegade.

Not really, I actually am pretty balanced, in the first game, I was an almost absolute paragon, despite me trying to keep a balance between the two.  In the second game, I tried to make my Shepard a little bitter after his death and resurrection.  Didn't do all of the renegade choices available, like destroying the potential genophage cure information, or getting Tali exiled,  but generally tried to stay predominantly renegade for the red eyes.  While still doing a lot of the other paragon choices.

Actually, I did feel quite bad for the mother of Morinth's victim.  But despite that, I still went through with recruiting Morinth.  It was a shame justice wasn't served, but in the end her mother will believe that her daughter was avenged regardless who you choose, as they both look identical.  Unless news arrives that it wasn't Morinth who died, then i'm sure Shepard might get a nasty mail from her.

Modifié par Notanything, 12 juin 2011 - 02:21 .

[D.Kain]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Oh, you guys are so renegade.

Here's how it works for me. I respect strong individuals, those that I can greatly benefit from. And as long as they will cooporate with me and help me I will go out of my way to make sure they are safe and alright. I would go through a lot of trouble and sh*t for someone like Morinth because she could be a better prize in the long run, that is if she IS going to be there for me.

Edit: aslo a good example would be Zaed for example. I didn't even think about saving miners, because I need a strong badass ally that I can count on, not just some stupid: ''Thank you!!''.

Modifié par D.Kain, 12 juin 2011 - 02:29 .

[ObserverStatus]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@bobobo878 - you ignored the part where Samara says that Shepard's morals are her own when she sword allegiance to him... didn't you? ((And ignored the post I just made about it further up)).

and you ignored the part where she said "If you make me do anything extremely dishonorable I may have to kill you when I am released from my oath."

[Medhia Nox]

Well - I didn't miss it, I just don't play douche Shepard - so I wasn't worried.

Still - if you were REALLY an edgy little renegade.. you would have used her, then had her killed right before the mission was over. She's a Justicar - by her nature she's more powerful than her daughter...

That would have been my choice if I played characters like that.

But of course - Morinth is sad and oppressed and in need of a hug. Blech - she's a space vampire.

[D.Kain]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Well - I didn't miss it, I just don't play douche Shepard - so I wasn't worried.

Still - if you were REALLY an edgy little renegade.. you would have used her, then had her killed right before the mission was over. She's a Justicar - by her nature she's more powerful than her daughter...

That would have been my choice if I played characters like that.

But of course - Morinth is sad and oppressed and in need of a hug. Blech - she's a space vampire.

If she was more powerful she wouldn't need Shepards help.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Well - I didn't miss it, I just don't play douche Shepard - so I wasn't worried.

Still - if you were REALLY an edgy little renegade.. you would have used her, then had her killed right before the mission was over. She's a Justicar - by her nature she's more powerful than her daughter...

That would have been my choice if I played characters like that.

But of course - Morinth is sad and oppressed and in need of a hug. Blech - she's a space vampire.

So.... in your opinion, all Renegades are douches? 

Wow. 

It's a ****ing video game, get down off your high horse and stop acting like you're better than people who played a different way.

[thatguy212]

Samara and Morinth are both equal in power, but Morinth is a one night stand away from being stronger

[AngelicMachinery]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

Well - I didn't miss it, I just don't play douche Shepard - so I wasn't worried.

Still - if you were REALLY an edgy little renegade.. you would have used her, then had her killed right before the mission was over. She's a Justicar - by her nature she's more powerful than her daughter...

That would have been my choice if I played characters like that.

But of course - Morinth is sad and oppressed and in need of a hug. Blech - she's a space vampire.

So.... in your opinion, all Renegades are douches? 

Wow. 

It's a ****ing video game, get down off your high horse and stop acting like you're better than people who played a different way.

Paragon is srs biznus.

[Medhia Nox]

She used Shepard as bait... she needed bait to catch a dangerous animal.

Do you all assume that the animals big game hunters fight are actually as dangerous as a dude with a larger frontal lobe and an elephant gun?

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@Father_Jerusalem: And yes - all the renegade options I chose were just Shepard being a complete douche.

Can you point to the renegade options where Shepard is a compassionate, patient, reasonable fellow?

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I didn't say people shouldn't play as a douche - it's a completely viable option. You clearly prefer the word "renegade" to douche - but it's synonymous to me.

As for my high horse - it's a great view. I think I'll stay.

[D.Kain]

Medhia Nox wrote...

She used Shepard as bait... she needed bait to catch a dangerous animal.

Do you all assume that the animals big game hunters fight are actually as dangerous as a dude with a larger frontal lobe and an elephant gun?

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@Father_Jerusalem: And yes - all the renegade options I chose were just Shepard being a complete douche.

Can you point to the renegade options where Shepard is a compassionate, patient, reasonable fellow?

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I didn't say people shouldn't play as a douche - it's a completely viable option. You clearly prefer the word "renegade" to douche - but it's synonymous to me.

As for my high horse - it's a great view. I think I'll stay.

We are reffering to the biotic fight itself, they were equal.

In being a douche to some people you can be a real friend to others. Read my post again. 

[Medhia Nox]

I'm actually not against all Renegade options - I did a few.

But saving a murderer over a morally strict uber-biotic... nope.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Medhia Nox wrote...

She used Shepard as bait... she needed bait to catch a dangerous animal.

Do you all assume that the animals big game hunters fight are actually as dangerous as a dude with a larger frontal lobe and an elephant gun?

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@Father_Jerusalem: And yes - all the renegade options I chose were just Shepard being a complete douche.

Can you point to the renegade options where Shepard is a compassionate, patient, reasonable fellow?

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I didn't say people shouldn't play as a douche - it's a completely viable option. You clearly prefer the word "renegade" to douche - but it's synonymous to me.

As for my high horse - it's a great view. I think I'll stay.

Kind, compassionate, and reasonable?

Killing the Rachni Queen - preventing untold deaths that would occur when the rachni inevitably declare war on the other races again.

Keeping the Collector Base - the greatest source of information on the Reapers that we can have, at least TIM will use it to find out information about the Reapers, unlike the Alliance who refuses to admit the Reapers exist.

Stabbing the mechanic in the back while he was fixing the Gunship in Garrus' recruitment mission - take out an enemy while you can, making the overall fight easier. What's unreasonable about that?

There is a justification for nearly ANY Renegade decision you can make, yet instead of seeing them you sit there and act like you're better than anyone who dares play the other way.

I see now why you like Samara so much - you're both sanctimonious twits.

[AngelicMachinery]

Medhia Nox wrote...

I'm actually not against all Renegade options - I did a few.

But saving a murderer over a morally strict uber-biotic... nope.

You know killing people over the slightest offences isn't particularly heroic.  They're both pretty monsterous.

[D.Kain]

mrsph wrote...

I really couldn't find a good roleplay reason to save Samara or Morinth for my canon renegade Shepard. So I flipped a coin for it.

Shepard pulls out two pistols in a middle of the fight and shoots both Samara and Morinth. }
Shepard: ''You are all nutts. I'm out of here...'' 

[AtreiyaN7]

ladyvader wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...



No matter if you're paragon or renegade Shepard mass-murdered 300,000 Batarians men,women, elderly, and children.

Did Shepard really have a choice in that matter?  The Reapers where within two days of reaching the galaxy and was sedated for most of it.  300,005 batarians vs trillions.  What is the right call there?  No matter what, the Reapers are coming and Shepard knew that.  Paragon Shepard did try to warn them before Dr. Kenson cut the transmission.  That decision was not taken lightly.

Morinth care only for herself and only about herself.  Why anyone would want her with Shepard is something I just don't understand.

Exaclty - Shepard sacrificed a star system to protect the entire galaxy because there was no other option. What Morinth does is not for survival, it's for her own pleasure -  to feed her addiction and her desire for more power. When Morinth kills, she doesn't do it to help anyone but herself.

[D.Kain]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...



No matter if you're paragon or renegade Shepard mass-murdered 300,000 Batarians men,women, elderly, and children.

Did Shepard really have a choice in that matter?  The Reapers where within two days of reaching the galaxy and was sedated for most of it.  300,005 batarians vs trillions.  What is the right call there?  No matter what, the Reapers are coming and Shepard knew that.  Paragon Shepard did try to warn them before Dr. Kenson cut the transmission.  That decision was not taken lightly.

Morinth care only for herself and only about herself.  Why anyone would want her with Shepard is something I just don't understand.

Exaclty - Shepard sacrificed a star system to protect the entire galaxy because there was no other option. What Morinth does is not for survival, it's for her own pleasure -  to feed her addiction and her desire for more power. When Morinth kills, she doesn't do it to help anyone but herself.

But if Shepard could sacrifice so many batarians he can sacrifise a few more, those that Morinth will kill to become a stronger ally.