Dean_the_Young wrote...
No, it really is like that the Code binds Justicars, and the Asari laws are a different body of words.
So if a cop is taking a handcuffed suspect in for questioning and a Justicar shows up starts interrogating the suspect. The suspect is being hostile and will not speak. Justicar kills her and says she saw her shoot a victim last month, but she got away at the time. The cop did not have any knowledge of this. What do you think will happen next?
The cop will accept that getting any further information out of the dead suspect will not occur, nod and go about their business. They will accept the judgement, claims and actions of the justicar as fullfilment of the law. If any random citizen or even another cop did this they would be arrested and would be a full on investigation into her actions. Justicars are governement sanctioned extra-judicial enforcers similar to Judge Dread.
Justicars and the Code are asari law. The Code is in effect everywhere in Asari space. Local laws are just local laws. It's not so much that The Code is the only laws they have, but the Justicars themselves do what they do legally under the law. I think you may be thinking I'm saying the Code is the totality of asari law and nothing else. I'm sure regular cops follow different procedures and are more accountable for their actions, but like the SPECTREs, the justicars are within their right to do what they do. The law is on their side.
Codex: Justicars...
The effect of the Oaths is conservative, ensuring that justicars respect the existing distribution of asari power rather than staging a coup to rearrange society according to justicar satisfation. Nevertheless, the possibility of such an attack is a source of anxiety -- and counter-intelligence -- among the asari elite.
What are these asari elite worried about? If they follow the law they'll have no trouble. They worry is not that someone will get killed because some local law violates the Code, but to keep Justicars from cleaning up corruption in higher offices. In either case, the fact remains that new laws will emerge and the Code needs to consider this. Thus certain Oaths were adopted. For instance, if a justicar felt slavery was against the code Illium would run red with white collar blood (regardless of the fact that it is not a Republic world). So there is an oath that addresses this.
Given that this is not true for nearly all organizations in Human history, why should it be true for the Asari?
An organization does not need popular support to continue: it only needs not to be opposed in sufficient measure to rally its opponents. Cultural contexts and examples are endless, even in western history.
You're being too general. Justicars are state sanctioned, not some random group of people doing their own thing like a privately owned mercencary guild. The Power Rangers would be a organization without sanction. A guy who tried to arrest someone or interfere with a police investigation flashing a Power Ranger badge would be arrested themselves or escorted away.
A Justicar comparison: Would the NYPD would exist if the state and federal government did not want it to exist? No.
A non-justicar comparison: Could Blackwater Inc. exist without state or federal support? Yes.
Or if we had guys like the Punisher and Batman running around, we would have since formed a Justice League.
They'd be dead or in jail. Let's be serious for a moment, please.
And yes, toleration for groups that fall outside their own laws is a fact of life for societies and governments.
Examples please.
Do we let rastafarians smoke pot?
Do we let Mormon men marry more than one wife?
Do we allow honor killings?
We don't tolerate cultures whose practices violate out laws. Allowing people to associate themselves with mormonism, is not the same thing as tolerating mormonism as mormonism and polygamy go hand in hand.
Besides that no one on Noveria ever claimed it to be an Alliance world? Or that it even had exceptional ties to the Alliance?
The better argument would be that Noveria isn't a Citadel space. And it isn't, except in so much that Noveria is within Citadel space, populated by Citadel citizens, funded by Citadel corporations, provides exceptional priviliges and authorities to Citadel member officials, services Citadel governments and persons, and acknowledges the authority of the right-hand of the Citadel Council.
1. Noveria is not part of Citadel Space.
2. The citizenship of it corporate employees is irrelevant.
3. There is no such thing as a citadel corporation. There are corporations that have permission to operate within citadel space, but they do not belong to the citadel council.
4. Noveria has a special arrangement for the SPECTREs. And we saw first hand how they
"acknowledge the authority of the right-hand of the Citadel Council".Codex: Illium...
Illium is a classic garden world developed to serve as entrepôt between the Terminus Systems and the Asari Republics. To abet this trade the normally stringent customs laws of Council space on product-safety-proscribed materials and sapient trafficking are relaxed. Officially, Illium is not an asari world; it is colonized and operated by asari corporate interests. This gives it the same legal latitude enjoyed by the human corporate research enclaves of Noveria
Codex: Noveria...
[...]Noveria is technically not part of Citadel space and therefore exempt from Council law.
By special arrangement, Citadel Council Special Tactics and Reconnaissance agents have been granted extraterritorial privileges, but it remains to be seen how committed the Executive Board is to that principle.
Modifié par The Twilight God, 11 juillet 2011 - 02:38 .
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